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is it really Dr. Akagi Naoko's brain inside the MAGI?? or is that thing that Ritsuko opens up just a brain-look-alike computer part??
Yuusuke
28-06-00, 11:15 PM
I really need to rewatch the Eva series, but if I remember right, the Magi was operational before Naoko died, meaning that the thing that Ritsuko opens up is probably just a computer part that was made to store one of the aspects of Naoko. Just my belief, though. (Gonna have an Eva marathon now that school's out, and a Ranma marathon, and a Slayers marathon, and. . .by the end of my many marathons, my brain will be fried.)
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Not sure which episode, but the one where the origions of the Evas and NERV are revealed.....Dr. Akagi mention the fact that the magi where a biological computer, so it is little wonder the stuff inside look like brain...may have been an artificial brain.
But, biological computers are becoming reality......a computer using a biological based memory has been developed in some us university...
David Ikari
29-06-00, 03:03 AM
The MAGI's brains are biological componants, scince it is a bio-computer. The MAGI's have three aspects of Naoko in them, but they are just duplications of what is in Naoko.
The biological computer is closr than you may think. One man has been able to use a computer to supply stimulius to a nerve, but has been unable to use this in any way. It's a start, though. Plus there is professor Kevin Warwick who is going to or already has a computer surgically attached to his arm to test nerve/computer interaction
Hehe
well i get to put in my opinion
Firstly, all three brains were clones/ synthetic (probly of Naoko)
After she killed herself, Gendo placed her real Brain in Magi Casper.
Thus Ritsuko, knowing this, gestures towards it (in EoE0 in the way she does.
ATh
Lord Henry
30-06-00, 04:38 AM
And what evidence is there that Gendo did such a thing?
I might as well say Fuyutski was the one who planted Kaji's watermelons.
Well assuming that i am right then who else but Gendo would do it?
Though by the sounds of it you do not think it possible.
I could also just say well, if not gendo then anyone high enough on the project.
ATh
Lord Henry
01-07-00, 01:53 AM
And I might as well say anyone high up in the project planted Kaji's watermelons.
I just don't see why anyone should need to put Akagi's original, (smashed), brain in the magi.
The three brains already installed were more probably cloned Akagi stock- 'the three sides of mother'-Ritsuko as you originally said ATh.
I could of course bring up that kaji's melons were rather large when we saw them,
perhaps too large for the amount of time Kaji was in Tokyo-3, i could also ask what evidence do you have that Gendo did not plant Kaji's melons?
Finally there is no real evidence that Naoko's brain was smashed, it is simply assumed.
Also if the synthetic brains are cloned from Naoko, she my have jumped from casper, at her death, her soul moved into the brain in Casper as it was the closest.
(the possibilites are endless)
the real question is whether Casper was different from the other magi in that it was capable of independant thought?
ATh
Lord Henry
01-07-00, 11:01 AM
Come to think of it, there is something odd about those melons....
I reckon Naoko's soul inhabits, (and inhibits), them.
Remember during 3rd impact when that soul escapes from one of Kaji's melons? Perhaps Kaji's mega melons are the 18th Angel?
But seriously folks, the different thing about Caspar was that it was Naoko as a woman. The part Ritsu hated, and the part that she was: 'right until the end'.-Ritsuko
Misato once stated that the MAGI used "the same personality OS transplant as the Eva's" how about that?
Keroppilee
02-07-00, 04:27 AM
kaji has melons? is that a joke?
Yuusuke
02-07-00, 04:38 AM
Keroppilee, that was a joke post, right? Unless you've not seen the episode with Zeruel (or quite a few after that), I'll assume that was a joke.
If not, then, yes, Kaji has watermelons. Don't worry, you'll see soon enough, just wait until you get to see episode 20.
Oh, and while on that topic, does anyone know why watermelons was translated to flowers (was that it?) in the dubb? Was that what he said in the dubb when speaking with Shinji, or was it just in that one tape I have dubbed (Kaji on the answering machine).
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shinji15j
03-07-00, 01:39 PM
what do u mean by Melons?????
ok i'll assume that this isnt a joke... :confused:
oh wat da hek
melons as in watermelons, literaly speaking
shinji15j
03-07-00, 02:01 PM
ok what i am saying is that i dont understand how you are using the term melons when talking about that stuff??
how did my discussion about the MAGI's brain turn into a discussion about melons??
shinji15j
03-07-00, 05:06 PM
I just dont understand how the term melons are being used here in this discussion ????
Well...Melons do have a minor part in the plot......When you watch the episode, you'll understand :D
Wolfpac
04-07-00, 03:34 AM
We are talking about Watermelons here arn't we???
Misato's got nothing to do with this right!!!
It's just one of the little jokes in the series...Kaji with his melons says he'd rather be between Misato's....well....It's funny when you see it :D
Eva00Kai
04-07-00, 06:40 PM
his melons are so big, maybe they were infiltraded by an intelligent cell, causing them to hipno-tyse kaji, thus throwing him into the...god, those melons are big....it scares me...
Originally posted by Yuusuke
Oh, and while on that topic, does anyone know why watermelons was translated to flowers (was that it?) in the dubb? Was that what he said in the dubb when speaking with Shinji, or was it just in that one tape I have dubbed (Kaji on the answering machine).
i was about to ask the same thing, in subbed copy of the series, Kaji refers to them as "melons" (not watermelons) but in my subbed copy of Death and Rebirth, he says they are flowers - i cant figure out that part since they basically are the same scene
EVA UNIT 01
07-07-00, 12:47 AM
When Kaji shows Shinji for the first time, they are watermelons.
In EP 19 he is sprinkling the watermelons with water.
But on Misato's answering machine he says "Could you water my flowers, Shinji knows where they are."
Confusing :confused:
Hi Everyone!!!!!!!! :)
I know, What is with that!!
And some how out of all the fights they never get damaged
Well in the dub, listen to the intonation of his voice
"I've been growing......flowers"
Like he was going to say Melons then decided against it for some unknown reason (I smell conspiracy [damn we need a shifty smilie])
Well Ko's not here at the moment so i'll take over :D
:: puts on best Ko impersonation ::
hiya Squall ^^
[Edited by Pen2 on 07-07-2000 at 02:02 PM]
eva2000
07-07-00, 01:04 AM
Originally posted by Squall
I know, What is with that!!
And some how out of all the fights they never get damaged
hi squall and welcome to my forums :D
Hi How ya doing
What me and my friends fight over is:Does mesado kill Kaji?
I think she does because when she becomes Major it is her role to
EVA UNIT 01
07-07-00, 01:11 AM
"I've been growing......flowers"
Like he was going to say Melons then decided against it for some unknown reason (I smell conspiracy [damn we need a shifty smilie]
That makes me think.....that's hard :B:
Remember what he said to Shinji in EP 19 "Though I rather be between Misato's melons (or breasts in the English sub)"
Hiya Everyone!!!!!!!!!
I would not mind being between misatos "Melons"!!!!
Is she a babe or WHAT!!!
There are some gooooood pics of Misato at a site found at a place called "tokyo-3"
We were using "melons" as What Kaji was growing(we found a fault)On the answering machine Kaji asks Misato to water his flower,she was Growing melons!!
Then the Joke turned into Breasts!
Don't ask me how???
Paradox
07-07-00, 04:16 AM
>Originally posted by Squall
I know, What is with that!!
And some how out of all the fights they never get damaged
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I still haven't figured out to do those quote things. Grrr.
At any rate, I think that the reason they weren't damaged during the angel fights, was because they were inside the Geo-front. Cos when Kaji is talking about his melons to Shinji, it was after Zerual had decended into the Geofront. And because it had decapatated Unit 02, and unit 2's head had crashed into the shelter where Shinji was staying, forcing him to flee and he sees Kaji watering the melons.
Gee, that was really poorly worded, and convoluted wasn't it? If my English teach saw that, she'd fail me straight away.
EVA UNIT 01
07-07-00, 04:30 AM
To quote use:
[ Q U O T E ] (without spaces inbetween) and
[ / Q U O T E ] (without spaces) to end it.
Hiya Everybody :)
Wolfpac
07-07-00, 04:30 AM
So how did the Melons grow without sunlight???
and Pubety isn't the right answer
EVA UNIT 01
07-07-00, 04:58 AM
:lol:
Well, that's an interesting question. maybe they are just magic melons :B:
"Kaji's Magic Melons" :lol:
Wolfpac
24-07-00, 06:23 AM
How did Misato's or is it Kaji's Melons get back to the Forum???
Anyone who hasn't read this Read it, It good
:homer: Hmmmmmmmmm Melons
I'll be hangin round misato's melons....waterin them...
DeadManSeven
24-07-00, 06:56 AM
Magi brains: They have to be synthetic brains, or else there wouldn't be three of them (there are three brains, one for each Magi, right?)
Melons/Flowers: Kaji hesitates before he says flowers...maybe he doesn't want Misato to know he's been growing melons and thinking of her. :) Or maybe he felt that saying flowers would be more romantic for his final words.
Kaji's death: Misato did not kill Kaji. This only rules out Misato, so it could be anyone...Second Sector, Hyuga, Asuka, Pen Pen...
Kaji's Melons: Why was Kaji growing melons in the first place?
Maybe kaji said flowers because itd sound pretty horni sayin that u've been growin melons when u know misato has big ones hhahahhah
About Magi...
It's a Personality Base Semi-Bio Computer (or something like that :heh: )
About the flowers...
Remember he says Shinji that it's supposed to be a secret? Well it's a "For Your Eyes Only" type of thing. He couldn't tell Misato...
About stupid theories...
I believe Kaji is Gendo. They're never seen together during the series, only when talkin with each other. Perhaps is something like "Fight Club".
DeadManSeven
26-07-00, 08:55 AM
Kaji is...Gendo? That's...brilliant! I love it! 'I am Kaji's smirking revenge...'...tee hee. :D I bet Gendo would splice frames of pornographic film into movies at the cinemas if he could, too...:D:D:D
David Ikari
27-07-00, 08:42 PM
I reckon Kaji said flowers instead of melons, because in a final message to your loved one, you don;t really want to say "Oh yeah, I've been growing large hard fruits, can you give them water"
"Can you please water my blossoming plants of love while I'm away" sounds a little more romantic
um...sorry to destroy such an excellent theory...ur joking right? tell me ur joking...
kaji was 3een giving gendo adam if u recall....
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