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Hiigaran
14-03-01, 06:11 PM
Does Lain have the most depressing ending ever or what? I mean, no friends or anything. Nice to meet you?! Why don't you remember me! honestly. I felt so sorry for her.
Killjoy
14-03-01, 10:01 PM
Actually, as far as anime I've seen, it had a pretty cheerful ending. I mean, she didn't die, and she didn't decide to end the world. She's just sort of happy now, because all the misery she caused has been erased. She kind of like a little god, walking around and seeing the sights.
heart havok
15-03-01, 01:16 AM
i'd say it hit me rather hopefull as opposed to depressing.
though i must say... when she tries the 'reality' without her even as a watcher... THAT was pretty depressing. it fucked with me. :bawling:
Drizzten
15-03-01, 01:47 AM
I actually slept soundly after watching the end of Lain. I wouldn't call it uplifting, but it was on the bright side.
"Nothing ever existed if there is no memory of it"
She effectively made the ultimate sacrifice by erasing her memory from everyone. This is more than dying because when you die you still exist in the minds of others, whereas she simply does not exist.
I'm don't think she is a God either. God only exists in the minds of people; the idea of that you are not a God without any worshippers is very strong in Lain.
But it seems it was not in vain and she did it for the good of everyone, so I found it sort of uplifting but also slightly sad.
heart havok
15-03-01, 03:38 AM
Originally posted by KEEL
"Nothing ever existed if there is no memory of it"
She effectively made the ultimate sacrifice by erasing her memory from everyone. This is more than dying because when you die you still exist in the minds of others, whereas she simply does not exist.
or rather... "She effectively made the ultimate sacrifice by erasing herself from everyone's memory."
Hiigaran
15-03-01, 07:22 AM
Well she could have at least allowed taro to remember her, or she could have erased only the bad things from everyone's memories, not EVERYTHING. I mean seriously, she met Arisu again when she was 30, and she almost remembered her. was that an accident or did Lain really want her to remember?
Slayn210
15-03-01, 04:06 PM
ahhhhh you people are spoiling it ahhhhh
all around me spoilers ahh
hehe i don't mind
Its not an amasing ending but it finishs it up neatly.
fishship
20-03-01, 03:10 PM
you want spoilers? heres one for yoma (warning, may contain spoilers).
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Wolfman jack. you know what i'm talking about if you've seen Yoma. if not, well then its spoiled. have a nice day.
oh yeah i like lain.
Slayn210
20-03-01, 03:13 PM
ha ha ha ha ha
your funny ya huck ::hillbilly voice:: i like you
I thought the end of lain was SORT of sad, only when she met arisu and she didnt QUITE remember her. at that moment i was just wishing that they went all cheesy and they hugged and remembered each other, but it was MUCH better the way they did it.
And if you want a depressing ending watch End of Evangelion.
heart havok
20-03-01, 07:09 PM
Originally posted by Slayn210
ahhhhh you people are spoiling it ahhhhh
all around me spoilers ahh
hehe i don't mind
---- you. :finger: don't read these spoilers until after you've seen it all :nono:
Hiigaran
22-03-01, 04:12 PM
I already have seen End of Evangelion, and there is no way there is one interpretation of what happened. It could be either happy or sad.
Originally posted by Hiigaran
I already have seen End of Evangelion, and there is no way there is one interpretation of what happened. It could be either happy or sad.
hehe why dont you take this quote over to the EVA discussion forum and see what they have to say about it.
in the end of evangelion everyone returned to LCL leaving only asuka and shinji. what isnt known is if more people can return to human form, and if they will or wont if they can. overall i would say it was very depressing, just considering the whole aura of the ending and the fact that shinji is strangling asuka and all of that, would you call that happy in general terms?
Killjoy
22-03-01, 08:23 PM
I'd say it's mind-blowing as much as depressing--and way to go spoil the end for people who haven't seen it, DrZepp...
madvoice
23-03-01, 09:09 AM
I found the series rather absorbing. The ending was a bit of a anti climax. I must see that it was a very weird series tho
Drizzten
09-05-01, 11:53 AM
After watching Lain again, I still get a feeling of comfort from the ending. I think that's what they intended with Lain's last words...comforting, motherly, sincere. Like, at least in someone's world, there is something good watching over them.
Am I the only one that thinks Lain is lucky as hell? I mean honestly...how many of us if we could, would start over in life? I know I sure would, with the knowledge I possess and corrections to mistakes, a person would become that much closer to perfetion.
I hate to do it but the "sacrifice" thing...although she is wiped from peoples memories, there is still the Jesus connection. In a way the Lain series is showing us that we all have the power to become our own "personal Jesus" . Although we may not be able to erase our memory from others minds. We, at in anytime in our lives can learn, and start over...reshape who we are and what we are to become.
cloakactive
20-05-01, 08:10 PM
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Lain had a bittersweet ending. Yes it did end on a slightly positive note but ya can't help feeling sorry (at least thats how i felt). Of all the series that i have seen, Lain is the only one to have left a bittersweet taste for me. Does any other show end with leaving you with both a happy yet sorrowful ending?
Oh and Neo, I think shes lucky, but i still feel sorry for her. Shes put in a situation thats worse then " The Hedgehogs Dilemma "
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KrN SeNsHi
23-05-01, 09:18 AM
Lain was is good anime. Though I wished Arisa did remember Lain. Also their eyes sometimes freaked me out...
Originally posted by KrN SeNsHi
Lain was is good anime. Though I wished Arisa did remember Lain. Also their eyes sometimes freaked me out...
I am not sure if Arisa would want to remember lain after her little incident in her bedroom ^_^.
Originally posted by Neojin
perfetion
/em Smacks neo upside the head with a websters dictonary. ( I dont pick on people's spelling but hay, its neo I gotta =)
Killjoy
23-05-01, 08:38 PM
Compared to other endings I've seen in anime, Lain's was pretty cheerful. (G.I.T.S. SPOILER) Sort of like Ghost in the Shell's: nseot depressing, but sort of cautiously hopeful. I don't actually think it was that mindblowing, now that I think about it and now that I've seen a few other endings.
Drizzten
24-05-01, 02:27 AM
I agree. How much more cheerful and honest can you get when the newly ascendant main character proclaims her unwaivering support and care for you? My only sadness was in the realization that the series was over...
cloakactive
24-05-01, 03:02 AM
Originally posted by Drizzten
I agree. How much more cheerful and honest can you get when the newly ascendant main character proclaims her unwaivering support and care for you? My only sadness was in the realization that the series was over...
But at least they ended it very well! I mean theres some series endings that were kinda like "thats it?!?" or "come one... i want something better".... and besides it left a lot of things open in the air for you to think about... theres a lof of "what ifs" and "could she have..."...
At least they didn't end the series with a "OH MY GOD WHAT KIND OF F***ED UP ENDING IS THAT" while you jump up and down wondering what on earth possessed them to do that. (Last series i watch got me really really ticked off)
So dang it... it was a good ending...
They could bring in a second comming of Lain.... heres to hope! (yes yes i know.... fat chance an all.)
They could bring in a second comming of Lain....
Actualy IMHO a movie of the game, or the Prequal to Lain would be more forthcoming. Giving some background on her origin, involment with the MIBs, her family etc.
That was my comment to neo, they really need to make a prequill with the story of the game as the basis since it explains alot more.
Drizzten
24-05-01, 11:03 AM
I'd be interested in seeing a technodrama involving Eiri from the beginning of his work to the time he dies (and presumably to the time Lain is "created").
Killjoy
24-05-01, 08:43 PM
I think a history of Eiri, the Knights, or the Men in Black and the weird guy that commanded them would be pretty cool, but neither sounds like they would be as deep or trippy as Lain. Even a prequel would be a little lacking of the elements I love in Lain, namely the sheer amount of mystery and unsolved coolness within it.
Sozotenchi
06-07-01, 12:08 AM
I just saw the last episode for the first time a few hours ago, so it is fresh in my memory!
I think it's clear for the only time since she was with Arisu, Lain is happy. She's chilling with dear old dad (who may or may not be the REAL God himself) and watching things happen. She is everywhere, and as long as she accepts that fact, she's happy. Watching Arisu grow into an adult, watching human beings grow and live (remember, she "loves them all" ;) ), that's all she needs to be happy. I felt happy and happy for Lain at the end, and it was the ideal ending.
I just started watching Lain, and so far I like it. The first couple eps were weird because nobody talked to explain anything. But after 4 it started getting good. BTW In august when I get to college, I will be running an anime server with 160gigs of space. If you want somethingin particular, email me after august 22, ***** and I either have it or can find it on the network. I know thats not too special but some of the newer anime fans might want a little boost. ;) -JinX
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Originally posted by cloakactive
At least they didn't end the series with a "OH MY GOD WHAT KIND OF F***ED UP ENDING IS THAT" while you jump up and down wondering what on earth possessed them to do that. (Last series i watch got me really really ticked off)
I smell EVA... ... More precisely the End of EVA movie. Which I personally loved. But thats my twisted little mind now isn't it.
-JinX
I really enjoyed this series. The end was really well done
everyone has already said my reasons for likeing the ending.
I think that someone said that Lain might have messed up because Aricu still reamembered her, but I think that Aricu's memmories of Lain were so strong that Lain was not able to completly erase the feelings that Aricu had for Lain.
And i say feelings because Aricu didn't have any memories of Lain, but still felt like she knew her somehow.
iwakura
18-07-01, 12:33 AM
Perhaps the latent memories (or familiarity) were becasue they were still "connected".
katiedid
05-08-01, 05:36 AM
okay, i've only just watched lain for the first time so i may be totally off but i thought that lain and alice (arisu, i guess, i have the dubbed version) never really connected..... i thought that was why she kind of remembered her (like when she was gonna email her and then realized why she couldn't or whatever). cuz lain didn't want to fully connect with her because she loved her too much...
cloakactive
05-08-01, 01:53 PM
Originally posted by JinX
I smell EVA... ... More precisely the End of EVA movie. Which I personally loved. But thats my twisted little mind now isn't it.
-JinX
Nope.... wasn't eva... eva i was like "that was interesting, lets watch that again".... and with eoe i was like "that was interesting ::scratches head::, lets watch that again".
Originally posted by katiedid
okay, i've only just watched lain for the first time so i may be totally off but i thought that lain and alice (arisu, i guess, i have the dubbed version) never really connected..... i thought that was why she kind of remembered her (like when she was gonna email her and then realized why she couldn't or whatever). cuz lain didn't want to fully connect with her because she loved her too much...
Actually, when i saw that, i thought that they had a level of connection greater then anyone else. If you think about it no one else really remembered or showed a hint of remembering while Arisu was one of the few to show that she remembered Lain, if even it was for a fleeting moment. I think they did connect. Lain just suppressed Arisus' memories, after all lain can do that. What i speculate is that their connection, their bond to each other, was so strong that lain could only erase the memories and names, but not the basic instincts. Thats my take on it.
katiedid
08-08-01, 04:22 AM
hmm, i think the reason i thought that was because of that ep where eiri turns into a monster and ?dies? when alice first got to lains room she told her that she had never connected with her cuz she cared too much or she thought alice could handle it... or something quite similar to that. i'm not good at quoting from memory. :sweatdrop
but yeah, that's why i thought that. i will be re-watching some tomorrow so maybe i'll come back with the real quote. :D
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