OAV and the movie.........

[Kenshin Spirit]

Could anybody tell me how pertinent the movie is to the OAV? I have started buying the OAV and want to know if I should get the series also or the movie or both?

[Darklightz]

In my opinion you should watch the 4 OAVs,then the series and then to movie.

Oh and welcome to AB Kenshin Spirit! :)

[heerogf]

if u like the oav for the blood and violence, then u r prollygonna be dissipoiinted when u see the tv, if u like it for the story and wonder what happen next to kenshin, i reccomend the tv, though it'll be VERY different

i haven't seen the movie yet, but i heard it is very good

[daniel480]

The OAV has a darker more realistic view of the Kenshin story...

The TV series is a lighthearted version of it ^^; just think of it that way. . .

less smiles in OAV. . .
more smiles in TV. . .

oh, and Kenshin doesn't have special powers in the OAV. . .he's just a really skilled swordsman. . . which proves to be more realistic than seein him use his awesome Hiten Mitsurugi Ryu techniques.

[SS2EnragedGohan]

ya the samurai x oavs are awsome! they show the real kenshin and how his past was and how he got the cross shaped scar and etc... definitely the best of the RK series i think =)

[SS2EnragedGohan]

the ovas are REALLY violent too heh nothin like the RK dvds =)

[evasoul]

actually i never noticed kenshin smiling at all in the oav... he was dead serious all the time...! and yes watching the oavs first would make you better understand the tv series... the movies i think happened mybe arnd in the middle of the series or at the end bec. it definitely wasn't after the revenge arc...

[Don]

The movie is like the Dragonball Z movies. Nobody can place an exact point on when it happened.. because the events are all messed up.

Anyway, I think watching the OVAs after the Kyoto Arc is a better idea... but due to the order everything is being released here, I guess it's too late... ^_^;;

[Shadow Knight]

What I liked the most in OAV's were the change in his eyes. In the series when he wants to kill they look red and vilanous while when he's happy blue and cheerful. In the OAV's when he was killing a lot they looked...dead...then when things started happening with Tomoe they started to look like that had life in them. I just liked that.

"Oro?"

[Ura]

Watch the TV series. The movies whacked in there somewhere. I bought the movie today (I'm allowed to i've seen the whole series :P) Its not worth watching until you've seen at least some of the series.

Anyway heres where I thikn the movies set. May contain SPOILERS

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I think that the movie is in fact pre Kyoto Arc. Theres quite a bit of evidence. The train trip looks a lot like the one at the end of DVD 5. Kaorus wearing the same Kimono and it only shows them after they have arrived. Where the episode cut off. Though Sano enjoyed the train trip in the movie. This still isn't impossible.

Himura uses none of his techniques learned from Hiko.

Himura becomes the Battousai again for a while. Something he doesn't do after learning the succession technique.

Saitohs there but they never meet. Going with the theme of him arriving in episode 28.

The only evidence I can see and its iffy is Sano using his right handed attack learnt from the priest. Though whether its actually the same attack or a really powerful punch is questionable

[Dryden-san]

Most of the Kyoto arc is a lot closer in tone to the OAVs than the rest of the series. Kenshin never really smiles in the OAV, but there are one or two partial smiles and contented expressions in episode 3, which is as happy as the OAV gets. The OAVs were released after the Kyoto arc in Japan, but there's harm in seeing them or the movie first.

[ryezen]

The movie really doesnt have anything to do with the series although there are events which occured in the series which have minor influences in the movie (but mainly serve for continuity purposes).

the movie revolves around one of kenshin's battles when he was still hitokiri but the effect of which comes to haunt him 10 (?) years later.



to Ura:

doesnt kaworu (seem to) use the same kimono all the time? but didnt they take the trip so that they could relax abit after all thats happened?

well i always thought the movie took place after the kyoto arc but before the Shimabara arc. but you do raise good points.

now you say kenshin doesnt use the succession tech and the Kuzu Ryu Zen but that is because his battle with Shigure wasnt one that required him to do so. Kenshin only uses those two techniques when he no longer has any moves left.

another probable point to consider would be Sano's comment about the new technique which Kenshin uses on Shigure (Shigure says "ive already seen that move before" and pulls out two swords). I think Sano mentions a few tech. but i think i recall him mentioning a "hirameki"

concerning Saitoh. Saitoh and Kenshin meet, infact Saitoh warns kenshin to stay away from Shigure. but you have to remember that Kenshin was unconscious and the only one's who assumed Saitoh dead were Sano and probably (but i doubt it) Aoshi.

about Sano's attack, after Shishio shattered Sano's hand, Sano could still deliver powerful punches but not use the futae no kiwami since it would hurt his still healing hand.

and yes kenshin does get close to becoming battousai for awhile (his hair was glowing red but his eyes were not those like when he battled Saitoh) but hey, he could still be learning

but the most convincing proof that it didnt occur before the kyoto arc would be the fact that Misao is present in the movie.

[Don]

The movie definitely is after Kyoto.

#1... Sano mentions the Ama Kakeru Ryu no Hirameki. Can't mention a move that doesn't exist. ;)

#2... Kenshin talks to Saitoh... but they would be more tense if they had never met (pre-Kyoto)

#3... Futae no Kiwami can still be used after the Shishio fight. Sano uses it several times during Jinchu... despite his bandaged and still heavily damaged hand.

#4... learning the Ama Kakeru Ryu no Hirameki meant that Kenshin should never rely on the strength of the Battousai to survive... but seeing someone in front of him killed could make him angry enough to revert.

...and where is Misao in the movie? o_O??

[ryezen]

uhmm... your right Misao doesnt appear, i must have mistook that scene for another. I stand corrected.

[Ura]

You're right. I was getting a drink during the scene where Saitoh's warning Kenshin. Watching the film again and I am starting to pick up on the signs that its post Kyoto. Such as the talk with saitoh and the technique kenshin used. It probably is towards the end of the series as Sano's hand looks pretty good. Its not bandaged.

It is set 14 years after the death of Gentatsu. (12th Meiji year)

[TenkenSoujiro]

Wait a second...did Kenshin really become battousai?

He could have killed that guy easily, but he didn't. When Kenshin became battousai vs. Saitoh, he was trying to kill Saitoh.

His eyes flashed because the main bad guy had changed his mind, but was then killed (I forgot the names). The whole point of his post-battousai life is to prevent death. Hence a murder for the first time since being battousai is a shock.


But wait, does the guy actually die? I watched it a while ago, but I can't remember.

[Ura]

His eyes turned yellow, he became much faster and he flipped his sword when going in to attack the commander. It was a flash of Kaoru at the last second that made him flip it back before hitting him. So he was battosai right up till that point.

[TenkenSoujiro]

damn.



also: damn hitokiri genzai was hella cool too. I would've liked to see more.

[Ura]

One question to those with better memories. The commander of the army (Yamada?) was he the man killed by Soujiro at the start of the Kyoto arc? I don't think so because if I'm right he hada full beard Yamada only had a moustache. But I am not sure due ti the smaller man with him being pretty much the same as the one that broke up the fight between Saitoh and kenshin in ep 30

[ryezen]

I think it was Minister Okubo (sp?)

anyone care to share more details about this guy?