My Oh My, did SBS do a VERY lazy job...

[Ronin Aquila]

No doubt I was not the only one tapping his or her feet in anticipation of Saturday the 19th of May, 2001, as we waited for SBS's Australian Premiere screening of Bubblegum Crisis 2040.

The show itself was still good, but two GLARING mistakes during the ending credits made me EXTREMELY dissapointed in SBS's efforts.

For one, it is obvious they just played an episode straight from a Blockbuster Vidoes copy, for on top of the screen were the words "Next Episode Follows The Credits", clear as day.

Dammit, these dropkicks were able to seamlessly edit the "intermission" caption out of Evangelion two years ago, so much that the episode still seemed to flow as if uninterrupted, as they did with 2040, and YET THEY STILL WERE NOT ABLE TO HIDE THE FACT THAT THEY JUST BURROWED A DAMNED TAPE FROM A STORE AND HIT THE PLAY BUTTON.

Secondly, the beautiful ending theme "Waiting For You" was RUDELY interrupted by the faulty (in that it was half silence and incomplete) announcement of some menopausal old hag saying "That was ------ ty40, more animated fun next with Pond Life."

(Loads Shotgun)

Bubblegum Crisis Tokyo 2040, like Evangelion 2 years ago, received atrociously poor publicity, and both were UTTERLY IGNORED in the media or the papers. The rare (and even then, brief) mentions that they do get described them as some testoserone charged action/arthouse garbage.

In accquiring the series, SBS has a responsiblity to raise the reputation of anime out of that of an eccentric hobby of a fringe subculture. Yet their lacksthereof attitude is not helping in any way to achieve that goal.

And what's this crap about ONLY 1 Episode a week!? The first four episodes of 2040, good as they are, are pretty much imobile plotwise individually, and would bore the uninitiated to anime audience who had to be kept hanging for 7 days just to see what would happen next. If the first 2 were shown back to back, it would present a somewhat compelling metaplot that would make the audience come back for more. Instead, I can now hear multiple unified clicks of dissapointed initiates who are shutting off to anime forever.

Sure, I'll still tape the series once a week (I don't have all that cash just to burrow all the episodes), but SBS's lack of commitment to expanding the anime culture still thoroughly dissapoints me.

[kaji]

i agree...i'm majorly disappointed now...

[I'm not a doll]

I totally agree with ya Ronin Aquila

[Coign]

I blame Madman.

[Wraith]

Am I correct when I say I heard the announcer say "um..." a few seconds before talking?

[jetalone]

Ronin, you've taken the words right out of my mouth.

1. You're right....it was bloody obvious that it WAS taken from a Madman video...laziness was never a virtue...

2. They can't wait until AFTER the show's FULLY completed to make network announcements?

3. Any sane-minded anime fan would agree that one episode per week is unacceptable....

AND.....oh, boy...I had to grit my teeth through some of the dubbing....brings to mind SBS's pathetic excuse for why they don't air subtitled anime....:mad:

THOUGH...

This was the first episode of BGC 2040 that i've seen, and keeping the purposes of a first episode (character introduction, identification of the main players, no real delving into plotlines yet...) in mind, i thought it did the job well...i'll definitely be tuning in next week.

Heh.....I doubted that i'd be walking away from SBS's first airing of BGC without any issues....

p.s. I did recognise one voice, though...isn't Sylia's voice the same as Naoko Akagi from NGE?

[pdhq004]

I quite enjoyed it ^_^

Mainstream media wont give it coverage because SBS isnt owned by Ruphod Murdoch or Kerry Packer, and covering it won't gain them any money.

Also, they don't just rent the videos from blockbuster, that would be illegal. They have to buy the rights, get sent the videos, etc. I thought the next episode thing just ment they'd play the preview for it, and thats all they did.

I think we should be pretty thankful we're getting any anime. Though i do totally agree SBS itself should advertise it more, play 2 eps a night, and play more anime in general. I remember one night they played an anime movie, and that des guy, or whatever his name is, said "you can look forward to more anime on sbs. And unlike some people, we really mean it". Hello? I don't think they've lived up to that yet.

[jetalone]

Des Mangan?

That guy scares me..

[jetalone]

CRAP! double post....sorry.

[kaji]

Originally posted by Wraith
Am I correct when I say I heard the announcer say "um..." a few seconds before talking?

yep...dammit..ruined everything

[Sakuya]

Come on people, you were complaining how there was no to hardly any anime being screened and now that there is some you complain ?

For those who didn't know SBS acquired the rights to screen BGC 2040 from Madman Australia so of course it'll be dubbed and it'll be just like the video release.

I'm sure they'll show 2 episodes a week when they re-run the season again just like they did with Evangelion, but for now c'mon SBS has to get it's money worth.

So you think the situation when SBS wasn't screening any anime is better than what they're screening now ?

Personally I didn't pay much attention to it since I already own the DVD version :)

[Ronin Aquila]

Originally posted by jetalone
Des Mangan?

That guy scares me..

That annoucer embodies EVERY NEGATIVE STEREOTYPE of a Sci-Fi/Dungeons and Dragons fan: That of a Mid 30's, still lives with his parents, creepily lecherous, lacking in any social skills, overweight virgin.

[kaji]

Originally posted by Sakuya
Come on people, you were complaining how there was no to hardly any anime being screened and now that there is some you complain ?

For those who didn't know SBS acquired the rights to screen BGC 2040 from Madman Australia so of course it'll be dubbed and it'll be just like the video release.

I'm sure they'll show 2 episodes a week when they re-run the season again just like they did with Evangelion, but for now c'mon SBS has to get it's money worth.

So you think the situation when SBS wasn't screening any anime is better than what they're screening now ?

Personally I didn't pay much attention to it since I already own the DVD version :)

we've been deprived of anime and we get it presented in a crap way...and we don't have no reason to complain?

[Ronin Aquila]

Originally posted by jetalone
AND.....oh, boy...I had to grit my teeth through some of the dubbing....brings to mind SBS's pathetic excuse for why they don't air subtitled anime....:mad:



Goddammit, Nene sounds like a Fran Drscher with a menopausal Cat stuck down her throat while being diesmbowled with a rusty chainsaw!! Hillary HAG, you stupid HAG!! THAT'S NOT HOW A KAWAII TEENAGE GIRL IS SUPPOSE TO SOUND LIKE!!


And yes, SBS. You show German and French Sex films all the time, all of them subtitled. Do you presume that just because we are action fans that we are illiterate neanderthals!?

Though I do admit that there are some witty renditions of dialogue, such as Linna's reaction to a sexually harassing superior (which was a dull "I'll Kill him" in the original version)

"I'd like to rip out HIS core!!"

But witty dialogue aside, the dubbing still suffers from an inappropriately assembled cast.

[Coign]

Originally posted by Sakuya
Come on people, you were complaining how there was no to hardly any anime being screened and now that there is some you complain ?

It's easy enough to get your hands on any amount of Anime; and because of that fact, we will complain about anything of lesser quality than what we obtain for ourselves.

[Ronin Aquila]

Originally posted by Coign


It's easy enough to get your hands on any amount of Anime; and because of that fact, we will complain about anything of lesser quality than what we obtain for ourselves.

If only the stuff we CAN get is not so goddamn expensive and slow in release that we cannot get a decent library!!

[Coign]

Schizm would argue with you there :lol:

[KEEL]

Bubblegum Crisis Tokyo 2040, like Evangelion 2 years ago, received atrociously poor publicity, and both were UTTERLY IGNORED in the media or the papers.

If I remeber correctly, eva got 2 page article in the green guide.

The rare (and even then, brief) mentions that they do get described them as some testoserone charged action/arthouse garbage.

Judging from the first episode this is what it seems like. Of course this is what eva seemed like until it got much deeper as later on.

[assyria]

I too was on the egde on my sat all morning counting down the minutes till we got a taste of Bubblegum Crisis Tokyo 2040. SBS has done Evangelion in the past so this was sure to nothing but good.

Yes I enjoyed the show itself very much, as I'm sure most us did, but I am a little put out by the way SBS have done BGC and it's general lack of publicity.

I remember hearing about evangelion weeks before it we due to premire on SBS and I tend to wach SBS quite a lot and I didn't even see any that even looked like a Bubblegum promotion. if it hadn't been for it promotion through AB I very much doubt that i would have know it was on.

oh but there was the write up in my local paper....

BUBBLEGUM CRISIS- TOKYO 2040
JAPANESE animation is visually stunning, no doubt about it. But what's the go with thir obesession with big flying robots? This 26-part anime series is set in the future after an earthquake destroyed old Tokyo and in it's place Neo Tokyo has been built. And it's been overrun with, that's right, big flying robots.

-Ben Doherty
Newcastle Hearld


Ben obviously know his anime. though I don't recall seeing any of these "big flying robots." Guess I'll have to go back over the episode again and look harder.

And also I hate to be picky, and I know we should be greatfull to have BGC on SBS at all, but one episode a week is not nearly enough and just leaves you wanting more. Damn all the video shop are shut now! oh well I guess I can wait till next week.

On another note, Des Mangan is weird. Every time they replay Castle of Cagliostro the replay his same intro at the start. :goof:
I'm surprise they didn't get him to introduce BGC. Now that would be scarey!

[Ronin Aquila]

Originally posted by assyria


On another note, Des Mangan is weird. Every time they replay Castle of Cagliostro the replay his same intro at the start. :goof:
I'm surprise they didn't get him to introduce BGC. Now that would be scarey!

I agree. The thought of him leaving a gelatinous trail of drool onto his bright orange pair of pants as he describes "four sexy crime fighting ladies in tight fitting power armor" is incentive enough to avoid the screenings if he actually presented them.

And yes, I agree, why in bloody hell do every dumb redneck who writes for community network think that all Mecha has to be giant and flying? It almost seems they saw an episode or two or Robotech back in the 1980's and went back to Bugs Bunny for the two decades that followed.

Pathetic, narrow minded knaves.

[digitalgenesis]

It really annoys me when this happens :redhot:

I was at my local video store last week trying to force myself not to loan any of the Bubblegum Crisis videos there, so that I could watch it on SBS.
Although Bubblegum Crisis was great, It was SBS that spoiled the experience. I think I'll just hire the videos from now on, because they're EXACTLY the same thing.
And I've seen no promotion of the series either, just like Evangelion last year.

[Sakuya]

The point of my post is, so you rather have nothing at all ?
Rather than show the "crap" you perceive we all decide that it's better to have nothing.

C'mon that's a pretty poor attitude, you all sound like "anime yuppies". Don't you remember the days where anime was next to impossible to get have you dig, beg, borrow what ever you could get your hands on?

I won't judge the quality of what SBS is showing but at least I appreciate the fact that they are showing something, not to mention the show is costing absolutely nothing except 30 mins of your time, if you don't like then don't watch it.

[jetalone]

We don't want nothing.....we're just pointing out issues with the airing of the series. Not in a "spoiled kid" type way, by the way...

I don't know how difficult it was to obtain the rights for the series, but I'd expect SBS to put more effort into its presentation than they did.

As I said in my post, the actual show was great! If I didn't like the show, i would've said it.

I was more perturbed by the fact that it was dubbed... I'm not a huge dub fan, and even though I had to sit through the NGE dub, the content more than made up for it...and I am prepared to complete BGC 2040. Though...if you haven't read SBS's excuse for not providing subtitled anime, read it. I guarantee you will think less of SBS after you've done so.

[Sakuya]

I don't care if SBS had the option or not to get a better version or show a better version, the bottomline, SBS is showing anime and it's free.

[Phantasus]

Apart from the lack of publicity, i dont see how SBS went wrong at all? ALL tv stations play the presenters voice over the credits. YES! the credits! Who really cares about the bloddy credits! Sure if u like the song then get it on mp3 or cd for god sake. I think anime starvation is getting to us all :D oh well.

Lets just hope well get more anime soon! :D

[digitalgenesis]

In order for the anime community thrive and grow, it must maintain strict Professionalism and Quality. When it lacks this, the people who normally don't watch anime will not accept it into their normal lives.

The people who accept real anime are not the same people who watch pokemon. They are intelligent people who can see when presentation quality is lacking and are detered from it. If SBS want to gain a decent sized anime audience and hence advertisers and money, they should really improve the quality of their presentation of these shows to gain this audience.

In this way it is beneficial for them to privilege us "anime yuppies" with a show that is "costing absolutely nothing except 30 mins of your time".

[Sakuya]

Don't you see the actual "anime yuppies" is a small portion of the viewing community, if you want appeal to mass market as you have put it in your post, the standard for the mass market isn't as high as what the "anime yuppies" set at.

SBS's standard was clearly aimed at just getting the show out there to be watched. If SBS wanted to appeal to the "anime yuppies" then they should've clearly

a) showed more anime sooner / regularly (cut down the delay time frame between series, movies, etc) eg. look at the break between EVA and BGC the now two main anime tv series. Eva was damn popular and if SBS wanted to capture more of the anime market they would've simply shown more (a lot more time air time to anime).

b) obviously to the "anime yuppies" the standard of the free to air BGC was clearly not high enough, so SBS could've done test screenings to get opinions, the fact that they did not do so, means that don't rate anime viewage that high. Yes I agree the fee to air BGC seemed like a second rate job.

also SBS has stated before they have only a set amount of budget / air time to show anime and it's not on the top of their priority.

Anime free to air in Australia is still not regarded as a high market, otherwise you'd be seeing more on the commercial channels picking it up, all I am saying is Eva was a start and it's good to see ANY free to air channel keep showing more "mature" anime.

People complain when there's no anime, and now there is there's just as many complaints, so the way I see if I was SBS "I'm damned if I do, I'm damned if I don't" they could just as easily save their money ditch the BGC free to air license and just show more foreign films. The BGC free to air license that SBS acquired from Madman was trouble within itself, how about showing some appreciation that they're showing anime at all.

This post is not aimed at the quality of the anime, rather at the fact that ppl complain that there's no anime on tv.. and now that there is they still complain. Basically what it seems everyone is saying don't show any anime unless it's done right, great so everyone loses out. No anime for anyone at anytime. The delays for BGC 2040 was huge, this was suppose to be screened last year, there was talks that this would've been delayed till as late as October (now if ppl weren't complaining about the anime itself they would've complained about the delays).

My personal view on the screening quality of BGC 2040 on SBS, yes sure I would've liked to see a subbed version as opposed to the dub, sure things could've been better, but considering I paid nothing to hire/ buy it to watch, it's not so bad.

[Kawaii Miko]

I am DEEPLY disappointed about SBS' introduction to Bubblegum Crisis 2040.
First, it was good while it lasted.
Second, they completely screwed the ending credits badly (and I do meant badly!) :redhot:

*Gets her weapon of destruction*

I'll show them how what happens if they upset one too many anime fans of Australia.

FLAMES SBS HQ TO A CINDER

[digitalgenesis]

I must admit, I regret registering my opinion in the first place.

This "mass market" you have stipulated doesn't exist in my post. I have, however typed "anime community" and "anime audience", I refer to normal people to infer a "mass market" of people that appreciate good art and will pick up something like Bubblegum crisis and appreciate it as high quality animation. I've used a reference to pokemon to accentuate this.

Something that takes a team of animators weeks and often months of hard-work to create shouldn't just be slapped together and thrown on air like it was.
This is what I was getting at.
I didn't make this clear in my first post, I apologise for that, and that alone.
I am an anime fan and it is in this light I present my views.
I don't care if it is free.
I care if it is done well.
And I hope that the people who view it as I do, will continue to watch it, and in doing so, become a part of the anime community.

[Sakuya]

I agree that SBS's execution of BGC was some what questionable, but I think that sometimes people take free to air anime for granted, and should show a little appreciation.

hrm.. I really have nothing more add except keep this thread alive and make you all read this :D

[pdhq004]

I almost totally agree with Sakuya. Since I left home, I have no TV, let alone a VCR and money to hire anime videos. So I don't get much of a chance to see any anime at all. To see BGC I had to go up a few flights of stairs to a TV in my college where SBS actually works and kindly ask the people in there watching channel 10 to watch it on another TV elsewhere in the tower. My tower doesnt have a VCR, so I couldn't tape it and hence can't watch any other anime videos. Tonight was the first time since late January that I've seen any anime at all, and I loved every second of it :D

The fact that the announcer spoke during the end credits didn't bother me in the slightest.

The only qualms I have are that:

a)They didn't show 2 episodes (I want more anime!)
b)They didn't publicise it much (less public awareness means less people will watch it means SBS will show less anime in general, not that they show much anyway)

But these are very minor complaints. SBS gave me something I hadn't experienced for months, and I probably won't experience much besides the weekly BGC showing. So SBS, i appluade you!

Maybe I should think of joining some of the Brisbane anime clubs though.

Anyway, I think some of you people take your anime far too much for granted. :rolleyes:

As for Des Mangan...hehe, i think he's pretty cool, in a really geeky kind of way. I wouldn't be suprised if he posts here. And he read some of your comments and broke down in tears.

:lol: at the Castle of Cagliostro announcement. I couldn't stop laughing when he said "That'll win you Japanese anime trivia night down at your local pub", in referal to a fact about Lupin III. He knows what he's saying is so patheticly geeky, and he has that face, and hes just so damn hilarious :lol:

[Ronin Aquila]

Originally posted by Sakuya
if you don't like then don't watch it.

I Love the show. I was merely RUDELY SURPRISED by its on air presentation.

[death]

Originally posted by Ronin Aquila


I Love the show. I was merely RUDELY SURPRISED by its on air presentation.

I think every one has been. maybe some one from SBS will read this post and change their ways.....

Or once where finished flaming them we could send it to them!!

[Kawanua the Samurai]

I HATE SBS ARGH

Grabs a Down with SBS sign:mad::kaioken:

[death]

Hey we all hate the job theyve done on BGC but remember eva....Thats right put the sign down and remember eva....


;)

[pdhq004]

Man you people are so ungrateful! Why don't you flame all the other stations for showing absolutely no anime at all (besides the mainstream pokemon and dragon ball stuff). And flame them for showing mostly crap all together. At least SBS makes an attempt to give us some non corporate commercial rubbush. Not just anime, but other shows such as pizza, stella st, that new president show by the south park creators, cult movies, etc etc. SBS is the best channel on TV. So the guy talked over the end credits. big deal. Its a TV station, not a private video. On TV stations they talk over the end credits. I don't mean to offend any really hardcore anime lovers here, but get over it. if you want the total ultimate experience then buy or rent the videos or DVDs. geez.

[Ronin Aquila]

Wow, to be honest, I'm quite surprised by the sheer volume of reaction generated by this thread. In but 8 hours since I started it, it recieved 172 views. Now, a mere three days, it has reached an astounding 258 views and 35 posts altogether.

Wow, looks like SBS will stay controversial wherever it goes, even cyberspace!!

[Sakuya]

Well I hope ppl as much pay attention to BGC 2040 as they did with Eva, Evangelion did marvels for awareness of anime in Australia when it was aired for free on SBS.

Whether the reception / reviews of anime is good or bad, bottomline is now Australia has now reached a stage where there is free to air anime. 5 - 10 years ago you would never hear of such things. Perhaps another 5 - 10 years into the future we will see the commercial channels start showing more anime and more frequently, and then we can all complain how the commercial channels did a poor job of presenting anime. :lol:

[death]

.... Ok whatever. Well ok you have a good point but i still think SBS deserves to be flamed (But not bombed or anything destructive)

[pdhq004]

Maybe if you feel so strongly about it, rather than flame them, write a letter to them about why you feel they presented the anime wrongly, in an intelligent, logical manner, and tell them why you think they should change the presentation, and why it is important for the anime community that they do this.

I'm sure that would be far more effective than flaming them.

[Ronin Aquila]

Originally posted by pdhq004
Maybe if you feel so strongly about it, rather than flame them, write a letter to them about why you feel they presented the anime wrongly, in an intelligent, logical manner, and tell them why you think they should change the presentation, and why it is important for the anime community that they do this.

I'm sure that would be far more effective than flaming them.

The only trouble is, only an ocean of letters, not just a single one or two, would even succeed at even remotely turning the tides.

[Kawaii Miko]

Never knew there will be love-hate thing happening here :sweatdrop

[Ura]

I think the classic was the hotline program when they were telling us that they got a dubbed version because we couldn't read all those lines. The dubs terrible, I mean leon-Poo its leon peon :P

[death]

:lol: :lol:What? Realy? The dubs that bad? But you must admit that leon poo does have a certain ring to it...

[Ronin Aquila]

But Nene's dub voice.... no, Nene's GOD AWFUL dub NOISE!!

[death]

Well yes it she does sound like a demon from hell. but ummmm... Darm thats realy is a undefendable thing. HOw did she get the job?!.

[ShockNet]

yeah, well, i can't even watch it because SBS is all set up to air in geraldton (where i am), but is too damn lazy to flip a switch and start doing it!

[Kawanua the Samurai]

:lol: yeah burn em to a crisp then hand em a letter

[Ronin Aquila]

Originally posted by Fireyskull
:lol: yeah burn em to a crisp then hand em a letter

For that purpose, here's an extract from "Fight Club", the original novel.

"Mix equal amounts of diet cola and petroleum and you get napalm."

However, since it is not official or scientifically documented, I cannot guarantee the reliability of the resulting product nor safety of anyone trying this at home (I have yet to do so myself).

To learn how to make dynamite.... don't be a cheapskate!! Buy the book and read it for yourself. Believe me, you're in for a ride!!

Finally, though "Fight Club" was a most enjoyable read, I by no means advocate ANY of the behaviors, philosophies and attitudes presented in either the film NOR the novel.

[death]

*Wave hand in the air*

Ive got a book on how to make fire works. ITs from the 1920s but would still work. I might have a problem getting off my dads friend thought.....

[Kawaii Miko]

Let's spice up SBS shall we? :naughty:

A hint of gunpowder, a tablespoon of magnesium, an N2 mine to lighten up the place and finally, the secret ingredient: fire!!

Now that makes a perfect SBS souffle deluxe! :P

[ShockNet]

Fertilizer and Diesel fuel, big ka-boom! (lina's dragon slave style)
it's what miners in aus use to blow great big holes in the ground :evil: :evil: :evil: :evil: :evil: :evil: :evil:

[death]

Actualy i was thinking more of a 6 pound skyrocket barrage pack but hey i dont mind.

[Kawanua the Samurai]

uh huh soo


SBS suck??????

ok

[DNA_Master]

Yes, another slack job from SBS...

Anime has got a bad reputation due to commercial stations playing Dragonball Z and Pokemon, which are regarded as kiddy cartoons. This means that people looking through their TV guide see the words "Animated, Japan" and think "Kiddie stuff, don't watch!". Also, anything animated is seen as kiddie stuff by a lot of people, so they don't watch it. Hence, due to people not watching it, SBS doesn't play anime that often, and it all goes downhill from there.

[Ronin Aquila]

But seven days ago I started this thread as a constructive method of releasing my frustrations over the poor presentation of Bubblegum Crisis 2040's Televised Premiere in Australia. However, in these mere seven days, this thread has received a phenomenal 54 replies and 454 views.

Looking at these astounding figures, one cannot feel but touched and reassured that there are a legion of fellow anime fans out there who share your passion, devotion and concern for the wonderous art form that is anime.

Hence, I give my humble thanks to everyone who participated in this thread.

[Kawanua the Samurai]

yeah and look at mine

CA's gets like 3 pages for one episode

i always post crappy threads

[Sakuya]

Leon-poo :D

[Ronin Aquila]

(Shiver)

The hideous "L-word' has been spoken!!

Wash your ears before poison gets to the brain!!

[jetalone]

I second that. *shiver*

Curse my ears for being overly sensitive to poor english voice acting!

[Ronin Aquila]

Sure... All their available voice actors are 35 years old or above...

But could they not have at least made the effort to find one that SOUNDS 18 years old????!

Poor Nene.....

[Herbatic]

who's dissing des mangan??!!
he's funny, sbs just wouldn't be the same without him. would you prefer Mr Voice to introduce movies just by name like the commercial channels?? i suppose you'll start dissing david and margaret on the movie show next?

I'm not actually THAT bothered about this I just didn't want to get deleted, and not enough people were sticking up for des

[ShockNet]

It's quite simple.........

As someone said (i cant be bothered doing the "so-and-so said" thing), people interpret the fact anime is animated as it being for kids (you should see the arguments i have with my family about the fact i'm addicted to it), and also because of Pokemon and DBZ (my 6-year old bro got scared when i watched the pokemon movie last weekend, proof anime is not for kids......)

erm........ what ep are we up to? at the end of the month i get SBS, and i need to know how much of my tape to skip, until i get the tapes and fill in the gaps

[Butters]

This is in response to Ronin's comment (sorry so late, I only just became a member):

Before I start, I think you have to put things in complete perspective, and for most part, I think you're in the wrong on most of those points.

1. Who cares if it is a video from blockbuster?
2. Who cares if the ending theme is cut out by the narrator (not that its a bad song), you can listen to it on the NEXT episode!
3. SBS CAN'T afford to publicise BGC because they don't have the money or resources to do so (even though they do publicise those "less than appropiate family viewing" programs. They DO NOT have a responsibility to elevate the status of the hobby (what made you think that they did?!)

The main point is that SBS doesn't have enough money to burn like the other commercial stations like TEN, who just wasted money on the failed scape.com project.

Because of this fact, you should feel lucky that SBS even considered buying and airing the show (even though I don't watch any other thing except SP and That's My Bush). I know I do!

PS: You were right about airing 1 episode/week though. Thats not enough!