Cardcaptors...

[Drizzten]

I have missed the opening eps...what are your opinions of in now that it's on Toonami? It seems to be hyped as a magic/action/situational comedy.

[cloakactive]

NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO


If your gonna watch this awesome, wonderfull show.... please please watch the good, clean, japanese language w/subtitle dvds or fansubs! The Dubs are awefull, they changed the name of some of the characters ( :dead: ) , they killed the opening song, they tried to make it appeal to boys, and they butchered and hacked and edited to pieces.

Card Captor Sakura=Awesome good kawaii show!!!!
Cardcaptors= Awefull, gene trash filth! ARgh! :redhot:

This is just my personal views on this show. But it is still IMHO!!!!

[The cruel angel's thesis]

sadly, my only experience with cardcaptors is CN. And I can still tell that it's very cut...from what I hear, they played episode 8 first. How stupid is that?

[Mikomi]

Heavens, keep your hands away from Cardcaptors!

The original Card Captor Sakura is such a kawaii and wonderful series but the dub is the worst thing that could have ever happened to it.

[Yui_Reborn]

Wow Drizzten, I can't believe you've missed out on my and other forum members tirades on the subject:). To avoid repeating myself for the umpteenth time, this is one of those rare cases where the purist Otaku screaming "they butchered it, they butchered it!" is absolutely right.

Avoid the bastardization at all costs if you want to watch this series, and it's really a Shoujo show; the adventure plays a role of course, but this is not the show to watch if you hate 'girly' shows. Of course I love girly stuff, so this is right up my alley:).

[cloakactive]

As yui stated it is a shoujo show... but hey guys are allowed to like it too!.... sides i need a to watch something thats really cute every once in awhile. :heh:

[lilmisato]

The first time I saw this was on WB....which is a very sad thing. Finally, I realized we got the subtitled UNCUT version at the place I rent at. So I rented it, and saw just how much WB butchered it. Needless to say, I haven't watched it on WB or CN since. The mangas are quite good also...:)

Yui...it's ok, I love girly shows too! ;)

[Kawaii Miko]

My advice to all who HAVE seen Card Captor Sakura on Toonami... :redhot:

For the love of all anime fans-alike, please, please, PLEASE watch the clean, uncut, pure, original version of Card Captor Sakura (<- THAT should be the original title damn it!).

Plus, the original has an extremely cuteness factor (Hoeeee.....:kawaii: ). That even recent studies show that the original has an overwhelming effect on a large number of otakus @ Anime UNSW (which I'm in!). Although luckily, no one had insufficient insulin left after watching the movie itself... :heh:

Above all, my eyes will be open throughout the whole morning sessions on the weekdays and I would definately know if an anime is officially and commercially released (not to mention, the possible outcome of WHAT will happen next...).

Since after watching any anime that's under the time slot of Toonami, which a close friend of mine taped it for me in the US and brought it over to Australia. My reaction, very disappointed. :eek2: :jdrop:

I can imagine all the lil kiddies in the streets of Sydney saying that they are the ultimate anime masters...(yeah right! now that's a change...).

But like I say, even though it has a giant effect on both audiences, young and beyond (trying not to emphasise the "old" term :) ), Card Captor Sakura is appealing to anyone, young at heart. Especially, us otakus ourselves.

To some up my argument and what everyone here says...
*Gets a sign out with words written in big, bold letters, "For your own sanity, watch the original!"*

And that's my two cents!
(Stupid CN...:finger: )

[Drizzten]

Says Yui_Reborn:
Wow Drizzten, I can't believe you've missed out on my and other forum members tirades on the subject:).
What, this one? http://animeboards.com/showthread.php?s=&postid=537151175#post537151175 :lol:

I started this because the series had started and your (well-written) post shouldn't be left to gather dust. :)

Why would they start the show on episode 8 and not 1? Anything in particular they might want to avoid?

[cloakactive]

Originally posted by Drizzten

What, this one? http://animeboards.com/showthread.php?s=&postid=537151175#post537151175 :lol:

I started this because the series had started and your (well-written) post shouldn't be left to gather dust. :)

Why would they start the show on episode 8 and not 1? Anything in particular they might want to avoid? .

They prolly wanted to leave out the plot devlopement and the character development that way the show could fit their view of what was cool. :redhot: And i swear it that is anywhere near the truth heads will roll.

[lilmisato]

Originally posted by Drizzten
Why would they start the show on episode 8 and not 1? Anything in particular they might want to avoid?

I believe they started it on episode 8, because that's when Li first came into the picture (I think). They want it to be based around Sakura and Li both being "CardCaptors" and main characters, as opposed to having Sakura be the main character like in the uncut version.

[Dryden-san]

I promised myself that I wouldn't do anymore complaining about about Cardcaptors. It's unproductive and solves nothing. I said I would go do something useful, like solve world hunger. That's what I said. Then I watched the first episode on Toonami, and here I am again. *sigh* Even the name 'Carcaptors' is an insult to the original series. It isn't ****ing plural, you @$$holes! The whole point of the show is that there can only be ONE cardcaptor, and that is Sakura. The original was this tremendously warm, sweet, cute show. When it comes to Carcaptors, words just fail me completely, so I'm giving up trying to describe it. For real, this time. Really.

[cloakactive]

Originally posted by lilmisato


I believe they started it on episode 8, because that's when Li first came into the picture (I think). They want it to be based around Sakura and Li both being "CardCaptors" and main characters, as opposed to having Sakura be the main character like in the uncut version.

In other words they wanted the show to appeal to boys.... Having a girl as the main lead alone would doom the show to failure was prolly what they were thinking. ARgh. :redhot: Seriously think about it. Thats a business type western mind that would think about something like that. Come on.... guys can like girls shows... they just wouldn't admit too often in public. :heh: Personally i still think the way they cut it was totally uncut for. And that opening? My gosh what a joke! Give me my japanese lyric filled opening damnit!

[Kawaii Miko]

I'll say it again...and I'll say it again....

NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO!

Ban the filth!! BRING BACK THE ORIGINAL!

[Takahashi]

Uhmm cloakactive like me you are a guy right?

I have only seen the two movies and I must say the second movie turn me around, I didn't like the first movie much.
I try to convince myself long enough that these kids are not from kindergarten, but more mature like college kids, I would have a lot less trouble believing the interaction.

I have a few question for the die hard fans, about ccs the serie though. What is Yukito, besides being an angel and a guardian of clow cards, i am talking about is it a boy or a girl? or a girl pretending to be a boy?:confused: Cause well, Yukito sure looks a lot like a girl, more so then the rest of the cast(most of them looks girlish). If Yukito is a girl would there be a chance that Yukito liked Sakura's brother, since Yukito is sure hanging around him a lot.

Li Shoalan isn't a cardcaptors, he said so in the second movie,"My powers are not from Clow, I might be able to hurt it" or something like that and then he pulls out some chinese magic papers.

[Yumiko]

Originally posted by Titan21

I have a few question for the die hard fans, about ccs the serie though. What is Yukito, besides being an angel and a guardian of clow cards, i am talking about is it a boy or a girl? or a girl pretending to be a boy?:confused: Cause well, Yukito sure looks a lot like a girl, more so then the rest of the cast(most of them looks girlish). If Yukito is a girl would there be a chance that Yukito liked Sakura's brother, since Yukito is sure hanging around him a lot.



Yukito is a boy!! and this is CLAMP we are talking about, it is oozing with homosexual inuendo. I think Yukito and Touya are the cutiest couple there is.

[Takahashi]

Whats up with Touya hating Shaolan? They didn't explained it in the movie.

And are they gay?:confused2 Touya didn't seems to be as interested as Yukito is.

[cloakactive]

Originally posted by Titan21
Uhmm cloakactive like me you are a guy right?

I have only seen the two movies and I must say the second movie turn me around, I didn't like the first movie much.
I try to convince myself long enough that these kids are not from kindergarten, but more mature like college kids, I would have a lot less trouble believing the interaction.

I have a few question for the die hard fans, about ccs the serie though. What is Yukito, besides being an angel and a guardian of clow cards, i am talking about is it a boy or a girl? or a girl pretending to be a boy?:confused: Cause well, Yukito sure looks a lot like a girl, more so then the rest of the cast(most of them looks girlish). If Yukito is a girl would there be a chance that Yukito liked Sakura's brother, since Yukito is sure hanging around him a lot.

Li Shoalan isn't a cardcaptors, he said so in the second movie,"My powers are not from Clow, I might be able to hurt it" or something like that and then he pulls out some chinese magic papers.

Yes i am a guy..... :redhot:

[Yumiko]

cuz li-kun at first liked Yukito.... touya jealous
then li-kun liked Sakura-chan.... touya becomes protective older brother

[Fatal Outlaw]

cardcaptors...the dub is f.ucking unbearable! it's worse than a marlboro hard pack ciggarette head rush!

anyway, to the 'new' fans, i mean the ones who saw the show first on CN, and havent seen the original, think the show is fine. so it doesnt really bother me, as long as carcaptors (i hate saying the dub name) doesnt ruin toonami's* ratings, its fine with me.

*by the way, toonami has an awesome fall lineup(ahem, gundam!)

[Takahashi]

Originally posted by Yumiko
cuz li-kun at first liked Yukito.... touya jealous
then li-kun liked Sakura-chan.... touya becomes protective older brother

So you are saying that Li-kun is a bi? :confused2
This serie sound more and more twisted to me.

[Takahashi]

Originally posted by cloakactive


Yes i am a guy..... :redhot:

Why the male-bashing then? I liked CCS too, you make it look like its for girls only(probably is, but thats not the point).

[Yumiko]

li-kun was more.... um... young and confused of own sexual identity and felt feelings for yukito because yukito was so nice to him since the beginning.

[Mika-chan]

This may be a spoiler...

















From what I understand, Syaoran is attracted to Yukito because he is attracted to Yue's power (which is Yukito's alternate form).

[mahal44]

I watched cardcaptors when it first came out on the WB.At first I liked it but then they kept skipping around too much and it didn't make sense anymore.So i ended up not watcing anymore but i plan on getting the original sometime in the future......hopefully.. *if i ever get a job*:p

[Dryden-san]

Lemme clear this up real quick. Shaoran isn't attracted to Yukito. That's what you and everybody else is supposed to think, but in fact, it's a reaction to the power of Yukito's other half. Yukito and Touya, well, who knows. It's never made clear, but this is CLAMP we're talking about. They always have sexual ambiguity in their stuff. It's up to the fans to decide whether it's real or not.

[meilinrei]

I love Cardcaptor Sakura!!!!
I first saw Cardcaptors....this just made me wanna see the original more :) he he he
(i'm talking bout teletoon..like toonami)
They were going in order...ep 8..and kept going for a few eps but then they went back to ep 1 which was nice to see the 1st ep (although the dub sux...) now they are jumping all around which I find incredibly dumb. I mean when they mess up the show so much (trying to appeal for boys because appealing to girls is sexist, more action..etc i read this somewhere...) and then don't even go in order!!
Okay I'll stop going on about this...everyone knows how much the dub sux.
Anyways I think this show is for everyone, cuz we all need some cuteness in our lives, ne? he he :kawaii:

[Amelia]

gaaa!!! cardcaptorssssdie! die! die! die! die! die! die! die! die! die! die! die! die! die! die! die! die! die! die! die! die! die! die! die! die! die! die! die! die! die! die! die! die! die! die! die! die! die! die! die! die! die! die! die! die! die! die! die! die! die! die! die! die! die! die! die! die! die! die! die! die! die! die! die! die! die! die!...die! *twitch...twitch*

[Yui_Reborn]

Umn............well.........said...............


I think part of the point that Clamp is trying to get across in their sexually ambiguous character relationships is that gender isn't as important as it's cracked up to be. Like, you could hypothesize all you want to whether or not Tomoyo and Touya and Yukito and Li are all homosexual, bi, or just confused, and in the end there's no evidence to support any of it really, and it's pretty much irrelevant. I think they're trying to get across that people love the people they connect with the best regardless of gender, and what kind of love that is is also variable.

Being an all-female group, I think CLAMP are very concerned with making people think about gender-relationships and stereotypes, and it comes out in even their 'for kids' stuff. However, it's subtle enough that it makes me wonder if the 13 and Up label on the CCSak DVD isn't a bit much.

[meilinrei]

Good points Yui_reborn

I like it how they hint things (in this case relationships..), not just come right out and show or tell the viewers. It leaves us wondering :)

[suzaku]

good point yui_reborn

well...this CLAMP we're talking about anyway

[Jenfa]

Ummm, this is a translation from the CLAMP nterview in the CCS Memorial book: (found at http://pixbell.pitas.com on the May 10 entry)
[Special comment by Ookawa Nanase] Basically, for some of the works in CLAMP, we make sub-themes like "what we really want to draw" in our work, as well as setting main themes, which becomes apparent. In terms of "Sakura" [meaning CCS] I'm not sure if this is the right expression, but we were discussing from the beginning that it should be a story "that is pleasant for the minority." For example, one might think that Tomoyo's feelings towards Sakura is, in a sense, "abnormal (dangerous)." Also, in relation to Yukito and Touya -- some readers might think it is friendship, or they might acknowledge a deeper feeling underlying it. Or consider Syaoran being attracted to Yukito and Rika-chan's feelings. We thought it was important how we draw those feelings.

As I mentioned earlier the structure is that the main character spells out the main theme in "Sakura." Therefore, for example, look at how Sakura-chan acts. Even when Sakura-chan knows that Syaoran likes Yukito, she doesn't see it with prejudice. She might have thought he was a rival, but she didn't consider the fact as strange. Also, consider the fact that Syaoran is a transfer student from abroad. Sakura treats Syaoran just as she would to a boy coming from a neighbouring town. Although she might compliment him in by saying "how brave" for living on his own as an elementary school pupil, she wouldn't have any weird prejudice about that. The same is true for Sakura herself, not having a mother. I wanted the main character to be a gentle (open-minded) person toward those outside of what is usually considered the normal family structure or a normal love relationship -- thus the story was made.

I thought it would be difficult for the young readers to underhand these kinds of things; but by watching Sakura-chan, I hoped that they would feel something. I would be happy if they naturally learn how one should feel for children who have only one parent or how to get along with students form abroad by watching Sakura."



Thought it was relevant :)

[meilinrei]

Thanx for that little blurb Jenfa :)

[Takahashi]

Noble thought from the creators, but if it would appeal to a small group, then the message would be utterly lost wouldn't it. The mentality of the majority needs to change, not just that of little girls alone. Why I say this, because me and a few other guys are a bit prejudice towards CCS, as it is a girls theme anime, most wouldn't even considering it cause it would be just another annoying chick flick like Sailor moon, where guys have really bad experience with.

[meilinrei]

guys can watch CCS and like it.
Just don't look at anime and manga as for boys or girls. :)

[cloakactive]

Originally posted by Titan21


Why the male-bashing then? I liked CCS too, you make it look like its for girls only(probably is, but thats not the point).

Sorry bout that.... That wasn't my intention... I was just saying. I'm just saying the show has a heavier female base of fans. And to be a guy and like the show is usually rather odd.

*edit* Side note: CloakActive is a guy.... CloakActive is one of the few guys in his circle of anime addicts that likes CCS.... b/c I like CCS and I'm a guy i'm considered odd.... BAH.... ignorant fools. :redhot: I like what I like....... :heh:

[Takahashi]

Originally posted by meilinrei
guys can watch CCS and like it.
Just don't look at anime and manga as for boys or girls. :)

Hey I am watching it and liking it, what I mean is that the majority of male anime fans still feels that CCS is a girls only anime and that they wouldn't enjoy it.

[meilinrei]

Originally posted by Titan21
Hey I am watching it and liking it, what I mean is that the majority of male anime fans still feels that CCS is a girls only anime and that they wouldn't enjoy it.

Ok, I understand ;)

I still don't get why Nelvana thinks they should try and make it appeal more to boys...if guys like it they like it if not, they don't!

[Lordbryn]

Originally posted by meilinrei


Ok, I understand ;)

I still don't get why Nelvana thinks they should try and make it appeal more to boys...if guys like it they like it if not, they don't!



That's an easy one to answer. Nelvena butchered CCS **AND IT WAS NELVENA THAT DID THE HACK JOB, NOT CN. WHY PEOPLE CAN'T GET THAT THROUGH THEIR HEADS :mad:** Anyway... :heh:

Nelvena did it because boys make up a much larger tv market segment than girls do at that age. By making the show geared towards a male audience, they hoped to get higher ratings plus more money through ad slots devoted to ads which are more geared towards boys. There are more boy centered ads out there and I believe I heard that they pay more **not sure though**.

The only thing that Nelvena accomplished was turning a anime geared towards girls into something neither sex could enjoy. No matter HOW many changes they made **and God knows there's enough already** they could never make it into a boy's anime. It was already written to the other extreme. It was like taking a Barbie doll and putting an army uniform on it. No 10 year old boy I know is going to play with that thinking its as good as his GIJoe, and now the girls that might be interested in it shun it as well.

[cloakactive]

Originally posted by Lordbryn




That's an easy one to answer. Nelvena butchered CCS **AND IT WAS NELVENA THAT DID THE HACK JOB, NOT CN. WHY PEOPLE CAN'T GET THAT THROUGH THEIR HEADS :mad:** Anyway... :heh:

Nelvena did it because boys make up a much larger tv market segment than girls do at that age. By making the show geared towards a male audience, they hoped to get higher ratings plus more money through ad slots devoted to ads which are more geared towards boys. There are more boy centered ads out there and I believe I heard that they pay more **not sure though**.

The only thing that Nelvena accomplished was turning a anime geared towards girls into something neither sex could enjoy. No matter HOW many changes they made **and God knows there's enough already** they could never make it into a boy's anime. It was already written to the other extreme. It was like taking a Barbie doll and putting an army uniform on it. No 10 year old boy I know is going to play with that thinking its as good as his GIJoe, and now the girls that might be interested in it shun it as well.


Well not all girls are against the evil dubbed version of Cardcaptors ugh :dead: . My cousins love the show. Then i showed them the nice clean pure uncut version (Card Captor Sakura.... fansubbed!) and they loved it even more! :D

[Lordbryn]

Originally posted by cloakactive



Well not all girls are against the evil dubbed version of Cardcaptors ugh :dead: . My cousins love the show. Then i showed them the nice clean pure uncut version (Card Captor Sakura.... fansubbed!) and they loved it even more! :D

I was speaking in large numbers :P Sure, no matter how bad you mess something up, someone is going to like it, but if Nelvena had just left it alone it would have a bigger audience than it does now. I read several articles how Cardcaptors was a huge disappointment ratings wise and was one of the reasons its finding a home on CN. Didn't turn into a huge hit on the network, dump it off onto a cable channel.

[meilinrei]

How can Nelvana think that by taking a kawaii show aimed at girls and butchering to appeal more to boys is gonna make anyone watch it? Yea sure some people will, but the majority. We're the ones that matter!!

Today I watched Cardcaptor Sakura beside Cardcaptors and it scared me!!! There was so many changes! has anyone else ever done this? AAHHH
*runs away scared*

[heerogf]

i love CLAMP, they're just so inspirational :bawling: and yeah, go to hell CARDCRAPTORS

[Takahashi]

Originally posted by meilinrei
How can Nelvana think that by taking a kawaii show aimed at girls and butchering to appeal more to boys is gonna make anyone watch it? Yea sure some people will, but the majority. We're the ones that matter!!

Today I watched Cardcaptor Sakura beside Cardcaptors and it scared me!!! There was so many changes! has anyone else ever done this? AAHHH
*runs away scared*

Don't know if you have notice, but we are not the majority, we are the rare few that likes animes in original form with english sub and Japanese speech. The rest of the world likes it in English cause its easy to understand. We are actually dishing money out while the rest are watching it on TV. Ask a person on the street if they know Neon Genesis Evangelion and 9 out of 10 would look at you like your some weird freak. Ask the same person if he knows DBZ and his reply is probably like"the japanese cartoon", this is called commercialisation. How many of your school mates are anime fan? maybe 5 out of a 100. Face it this time we are the minority.
They know we are already hooked to the medium, so they won't bother to please us, rather they are trying to pissed us off so they can sell more DVD.

[Lordbryn]

Originally posted by Titan21


Don't know if you have notice, but we are not the majority, we are the rare few that likes animes in original form with english sub and Japanese speech. The rest of the world likes it in English cause its easy to understand. We are actually dishing money out while the rest are watching it on TV. Ask a person on the street if they know Neon Genesis Evangelion and 9 out of 10 would look at you like your some weird freak. Ask the same person if he knows DBZ and his reply is probably like"the japanese cartoon", this is called commercialisation. How many of your school mates are anime fan? maybe 5 out of a 100. Face it this time we are the minority.
They know we are already hooked to the medium, so they won't bother to please us, rather they are trying to pissed us off so they can sell more DVD.

We are not so much the minority you think Titan. Sure, unlike the majority, we do prefer a subbed anime as opposed to a dub **though I watch both. THANK YOU DVD :) ** BUT... the majority it seems would still prefer that the content of a show not be changed. If all Nelvena did was dub the series and change nothing, sure, some otakus would still bad mouth it, but it would more than likely be more popular than it is now. Most of us belong to the subbed anime minority, BUT even the casual viewer it seems would prefer the actual content to be unchanged.

Look at the evidence of Cardcaptors. First it was in the highly competitive Saturday morning time slot. Then it expanded to weekday afternoons to introduce more viewers. After still not picking up viewers it was banished from Saturday and weekday afternoons and is now only 1 showing a week on Friday and is being dumped onto a cable network. Had they just left it alone, it would probably be at least twice as popular as it is now.

[cloakactive]

I dunno... most of my "mates" are Anime heads and they fansubbed, so naturally they have a strong distaste for dubbs. :dead: I agree with Lordbryn.... "Thank you DVD".... my mates however hate dvds (fools).... they are die hard LD people.... too bad the last pressed anime LD in japan was I think a couple months ago. :D

[meilinrei]

I agree with you both! (reffering to Lordbryn and Titan21)
I guess we aren't the "majority" but like Lordbryn said many people would still prefer shows to be dubbed but not changed. Oh poor Cardcaptor Sakura.

Ok I got a question: What age group do you guys think Cardcaptor Sakura was aimed for. And what age group do you think Cardcaptors was aimed for?
Just wondering ;)

[Kawaii Miko]

Originally posted by meilinrei
Ok I got a question: What age group do you guys think Cardcaptor Sakura was aimed for. And what age group do you think Cardcaptors was aimed for?

Uh...me thinks you're asking the same question Meilinrei-kun.

Since they're the same title, here's my opinion on Age groups

It's more likely, it aims at a younger audience (preferrably, 6-10
year olds). Since its a shoujo anime, most guys can't help but to actually liked it.

But I doubt the boys will ever grow to like it in the west as it dwells more on Sakura-chan then Li.

[Takahashi]

I think MeilingRei, was referring to age group they were aiming for and the age group that are actually watching the show. For the aim I agree Kawaii_no_Miko, thats is from 6 to 10. Actual would be, I think from 6 to 20, since most teenager girls can't resist such cuteness. Me I am a guy of 22 so I fell out of the boat, but then I am usually the exception to the rules.

[AsukaLangleySohryu]

me who luv mecha and lots of fighting scenes,start watching it too,do not know why.

[Takahashi]

Probably because you ran out of anime to watch like I did, so i grab at anything I can get, right now Inu Yasha is on my to watch list cause I saw the first few episode and its really good.

[cloakactive]

Originally posted by Titan21
Probably because you ran out of anime to watch like I did, so i grab at anything I can get, right now Inu Yasha is on my to watch list cause I saw the first few episode and its really good.

I ran into that problem.... but i still had to watch quality shows.... i can't watch anything thats junk (no offense to anyone but Ninja Cadets is such a show).... It a good thing my friend had the fansubs of CCS otherwise i would have died from lack of quality anime. :heh:

As for meilinreis' question, CCS was prolly aimed for the young girls (i'm thinking here maybe 6-12?), Cardcaptors..... personally i think that they weren't thinking of who they were trying to target such a cut up show to.

All i have to say on this matter is that if you have the means to get the original in its uncut, awesome glory, do so! :D

[meilinrei]

Originally posted by cloakactive
All i have to say on this matter is that if you have the means to get the original in its uncut, awesome glory, do so! :D

I agree!!!

[chasta]

I've only seen a handful of Cardcaptors. I think the saddest thing is they took out the original Japanese opening...it's such a cute song. I took my nephew with to ACen2k last year and he watched the Card Captor Sakura movie (I assume it was one; sorry, I don't know which!) and I was surprised he actually liked it. :)

BTW, Titan21, Inu-Yasha is *very* good. Keep watching, it just keeps getting better! :D

[cloakactive]

Originally posted by chasta
I've only seen a handful of Cardcaptors. I think the saddest thing is they took out the original Japanese opening...it's such a cute song. I took my nephew with to ACen2k last year and he watched the Card Captor Sakura movie (I assume it was one; sorry, I don't know which!) and I was surprised he actually liked it. :)

BTW, Titan21, Inu-Yasha is *very* good. Keep watching, it just keeps getting better! :D

Last year they were showing the First CCS movie at ACEN..... And i agree.... the orginal Japanese opening is soo much better then the BS opening they made up for the ugly english dubs.... ugh :dead:

[meilinrei]

Yea I love the Japanese opening, it describes the whole show: Kawaii :D

[Trunks823]

Kinda late to respond... =) I think that the dub is horrible too. I think they should have at least left Tomoyo-chan's name, and given her a better voice. The opening is very cute! I like Platina too! ^ - ^

[meilinrei]

i don't mind Tomoyo's voice in the dub....but i don't like how they changed her personality, she actually said "Whatever" in ep 8. that just seemed wrong :eek:

[cloakactive]

Originally posted by meilinrei
i don't mind Tomoyo's voice in the dub....but i don't like how they changed her personality, she actually said "Whatever" in ep 8. that just seemed wrong :eek:


Didn't they also say that it was her father who owned a company in the dubs? I know that its her mom who owns the company.... someone correct me if i'm wrong. But if i'm right, man thats just messed up. :redhot:

[meilinrei]

i don't think they ever said that her father owned the company...but they might of, i haven't seen all the dubbed and my memory isn't the most reliable ;) if they did the sure screwed that up. Oh, do we ever find out where her dad is (Tomoyo's) or what happened to him?

[chasta]

I've only seen a couple of the dubs, but I do remember that they seemed to have changed her personality totally.

[meilinrei]

Originally posted by chasta
I've only seen a couple of the dubs, but I do remember that they seemed to have changed her personality totally.

I've seen more of the dub than the sub (so far...) and yes they have...and i'm not sure why, what's bad about her normal personality? I just saw ep 9 (dubbed)and Tomoyo and Sakura started talking about 360's and other rollerblading stuff..i have this BIG feeling that they don't do that in the subbed...now i gotta see the sub of ep 9....:)