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cloakactive
26-09-01, 06:08 AM
If you want the forum please go to the forum request and tell eva2k how much you want one! If your in here or reading this thread here it is...

WARNING!!! SPOILER INTENSE THREAD (... or at least it will be)

So basically if you haven't seen the whole series I would stop if i were you... now on to the first of many topics! (hopefully)


















































~~last spoiler alert~~





























Ok... do you like the idea of Touya and Yukito being together? I think they are rather cute, but I also liked the possibility of Touya with Kaho (Mizuki-sensei for those who don't know her 1st name)...

2nd thing: Kereberos true form is really kick ass... but i was so surprised the first time when we first find out that Yukito was the false form of Yue... talk about a mind trip

3rd thing: Clow Reeds' key... rather kick ass ne?

4th thing: Isn't it really really cute how Shaoran can act like such a hard ass but hes really a big softie inside. :heh:

More things: If Touya handed given Yue his magical powers... how strong (magical wise) do you think Touya really is? I mean come on! He fully replenished Yues magical powers... he must be really powerfull... maybe on a level with Clow Reed even perhaps? Cool thought actually...


More question are sure to come as they come to mind... and of course more spoilers so beware if you haven't finished the series!

Mmeeva
27-09-01, 12:10 AM
Originally posted by cloakactive


Ok... do you like the idea of Touya and Yukito being together? I think they are rather cute, but I also liked the possibility of Touya with Kaho (Mizuki-sensei for those who don't know her 1st name)...

2nd thing: Kereberos true form is really kick ass... but i was so surprised the first time when we first find out that Yukito was the false form of Yue... talk about a mind trip

4th thing: Isn't it really really cute how Shaoran can act like such a hard ass but hes really a big softie inside. :heh:

More things: If Touya handed given Yue his magical powers... how strong (magical wise) do you think Touya really is? I mean come on! He fully replenished Yues magical powers... he must be really powerfull... maybe on a level with Clow Reed even perhaps? Cool thought actually...



Hmm, I rather like the Touya and Yuki coupling. As for Kaho, well she didn't seem to be too interested to begin with.

As for Kero's true form, I wasn't too suprised. I kinda figured that he would have been bigger, or at least something similar to what they were showing on the book.

As for Li, I love the moments when he does that. It really is cute. ^_^

I do not believe Touya had immense power, out of everyone in the show who does have powers, I would say that his is probably one of the smaller ones if not the smallest. Although with the way he replinshed Yue, maybe he has some hidden power he never got to use...

rei-gouki
27-09-01, 05:48 PM
Originally posted by Mmeeva

I do not believe Touya had immense power, out of everyone in the show who does have powers, I would say that his is probably one of the smaller ones if not the smallest. Although with the way he replinshed Yue, maybe he has some hidden power he never got to use...

Actually, Touya has more magical power than Sakura. That's why Yukito was drawn more to Touya than Sakura. That power is further demonstrated in his ablility to see the spirit of Nadesico, something Sakura couldn't do until much later in the series.

^FallenAngel^
27-09-01, 10:05 PM
Who's Touya? I'm not familiar with names, just the faces!! =)

Hey I'm just wondering right... which eps would be interesting to start watching? I started from the beginning, but fall alseep cos it's too slow moving.... and it seems for little kiddys.....

Yeah so which eps does it get interesting, as in more deep into the main story etc.... eg: Yue/Touya etc...????

matsu
27-09-01, 11:35 PM
Originally posted by ^FallenAngel^
Who's Touya? I'm not familiar with names, just the faces!! =)

Hey I'm just wondering right... which eps would be interesting to start watching? I started from the beginning, but fall alseep cos it's too slow moving.... and it seems for little kiddys.....

Yeah so which eps does it get interesting, as in more deep into the main story etc.... eg: Yue/Touya etc...????

Touya is Sakura's brother ^_~

KardKaptor
27-09-01, 11:42 PM
I haven't finished the series yet, but could you explain a little more about this Yukito and Touya being together?? Do they both make up Yue or something?? I always thought that Yukito was....

Well, looks like there are some interesting twists in this series for me!! I always suspected that Touya had some sort of power ... I mean he could talk to and see his dead mother. Not something that every average teen is blessed with :D

Tell me more!! I want to know more!! Also, is this towards the end of the first series? From what i understand, CCS ends at ep. 40 odd , and the Sakura Cards continue to ep. 70. Is this true or have I been grossly mislead?

Kano Miyazawa
28-09-01, 04:14 AM
Originally posted by cloakactive

Ok... do you like the idea of Touya and Yukito being together? I think they are rather cute, but I also liked the possibility of Touya with Kaho (Mizuki-sensei for those who don't know her 1st name)...

2nd thing: Kereberos true form is really kick ass... but i was so surprised the first time when we first find out that Yukito was the false form of Yue... talk about a mind trip

3rd thing: Clow Reeds' key... rather kick ass ne?

4th thing: Isn't it really really cute how Shaoran can act like such a hard ass but hes really a big softie inside. :heh:

More things: If Touya handed given Yue his magical powers... how strong (magical wise) do you think Touya really is? I mean come on! He fully replenished Yues magical powers... he must be really powerfull... maybe on a level with Clow Reed even perhaps? Cool thought actually...


More question are sure to come as they come to mind... and of course more spoilers so beware if you haven't finished the series!

A CCS forum would be great!

I've always thought Yukito and Touya are a cute couple... they're just so sweet! :kawaii: Kaho's also a cool character but I thought she was a little cold towards Touya with the whole "I'm leaving for England tomorrow, bye!" thing...

Kero's true for is really cool. I think the whole true form/false form thing is one of the more interesting point in the series, especially with Yukito and Yue.... Multiple personalities are always entertaining.

I'd say more... but I have to go to class!

Black_Knight
28-09-01, 07:38 AM
That's one hell of a long spoiler! I mean the legnth… I didn't listen though! :(

And we got a petition up in request forums, so post your support for one there!

cloakactive
28-09-01, 10:04 AM
Originally posted by KardKaptor
Tell me more!! I want to know more!! Also, is this towards the end of the first series? From what i understand, CCS ends at ep. 40 odd , and the Sakura Cards continue to ep. 70. Is this true or have I been grossly mislead?


I've got all the eps... about 70 give or take an episode... and I've got both Movies as well... Lots and Lots of potential for discussion... for once Black Knight has said something usefull, sign the petition! (yea i know... he didn't really contribute to the discussion... but oh well).... KardKaptor... what do you want to know?

KardKaptor
28-09-01, 10:21 AM
What is this about Yukito and Touya being together I really needs some explanation...they are a couple??

cloakactive
28-09-01, 10:30 AM
Originally posted by KardKaptor
What is this about Yukito and Touya being together I really needs some explanation...they are a couple??

Towards the end of the series, its more hinted then flat out told to the viewer... its fairly obvious by that time though. :D

KardKaptor
29-09-01, 10:02 PM
Whoa! I didn't expect something like that !!! Well, its' cool I have not hang-ups about it.

Do you know if they kept this relationship in the dubb??

Foxxe
30-09-01, 02:40 AM
I always felt uncomforatable with their relationship. Brrrr....

cloakactive
01-10-01, 04:53 PM
Originally posted by KardKaptor
Whoa! I didn't expect something like that !!! Well, its' cool I have not hang-ups about it.

Do you know if they kept this relationship in the dubb??

I watched one ep of the dubs before i decided to burn my eyes and scream in absolute horror at how grosely messed up they turned the series. In all likely hood they will edit it and adjust it so that they are only best friends and take every possible hint out of the picture.

Foxxe: Your just not used to it... for you I will say this... just think of Kaho and Touya getting together instead.... hope your happy. :D

rei-gouki
02-10-01, 05:50 PM
Okay, I just saw it and eelch. They removed the bit about the consequences of Sakura failing Final Judgement that was the whole reason she fought so hard.













*SPOILERS*
For all those who don't want to know the real reason Sakura fought so hard or have the dream sequence explained, such as, for example, you want to find out for yourself, turn away NOW

:mad: :mad: :mad:
Now, the consequence is that all who have been touched by the Clow Cards magic will forget all the events since the seal was broken AND on top of that, their most loved/important person. The second effect was omitted from the dialogue and would explain the dream sequence. If you watch crafeully, some of the following will become evident:

1) Touya didn't pick on Sakura. Probably because Yukito wasn't around for them to fight over.
2) Nadesico's picture was gone. Fujitaka forgot about his true love and no longer remembers her in that way.
3) Tomoyo was friendly to Sakura. She no longer thinks of Sakura in the same way as before.

Now, I had to consult the manga to see the extent of the effects as I haven't seen that ep in Japanese yet.

All the people at the sports festival that were affected by The Flower will also forget. Chiharu will forget about Yamazaki, Rika will forget about Terada, etc. Given the animation that I saw in the dub, the situation was probably slightly different to the manga.

If all this was actually dubbed, it would most definitely break the image of an action series. The saying "Lover, not a Fighter" definitely would be crushed for eternity seeing how the characters of CCS, and many other anime, fight for it as well as be a participant in it. :mad:

feeeuu... now I feel much better.

KardKaptor
03-10-01, 03:04 PM
Ja, I saw that yesterday too. Can I ask where you find all this manga and original anime of CCS from?? I am pulling my hair out at trying to find the series.

I am so miffed at Brisbane. Ya, if you could help me I would be very grateful. I am going to get the second movie soon, and well I have only watched one japanese episode. (Sakura and the giant teddy bear).

And after watching the CC series, I cringe at Sakuras' voice.....can't she act like she ain't reading from a script??

rei-gouki
03-10-01, 05:57 PM
I don't know much about Brisbane so I guess you better go to:

http://www.anime.com.au/bas/

and ask the guys there. They should be able to help you out.

KardKaptor
04-10-01, 12:07 PM
Thanks rei-goku for the link. Cept, I wanna know where you get yours from. :)

Since, I already buy stuff from Melbourne (tamarket.com.au) I figured if there is stuff there that I dont know about i want in on it =)

Anyway, thanks again for the link.

rei-gouki
06-10-01, 02:15 AM
Well, down here, most of the stores I go to are listed at:

www.anime.com.au/wwwa
[under Miscellaneous]
www.anime.com.au/mas
[under Shopping Guide]
animeguide.cyril.com/
[it's a general Aussie Anime Guide]

The lists are fairly comprehensive so I just stick to a small number of them.

Hobby Japan
Honya, Japanese Book Shop
Ultimate Science Fiction
The Crypt
Tamarket

The shops listed above are in the city (Melbourne) or west of. I have many friends that go to the shops on the eastern side of Melbourne, namely Animezone, who happen to have a website you can order from, though it is down at the moment.

As for online, there is also (that I know of):

www.animex.com.au
www.videostorecult.com/catalog/catalog.htm

I haven't been gotten anything from animex.com.au but they are attached to Hobby Japan which is where I borrow stuff from.

And videostorecult.com is attached to "Kiseki Films". They are in Perth, Western Australia. From what I can see, their prices are in AUD and quite reasonable.

Lastly, there are the fansubbers. This is usually the second place anime fans get their anime. I've been told there are many subbers and even more distributers on the net. Giving the actual site of these fansubbers could be an infringement of rule#4 so the most I'll do is say to look around club web pages carefully and you'll find at least one.

*runs away and hides in a corner away from the scary mods*

cloakactive
06-10-01, 12:37 PM
Originally posted by rei-gouki

Lastly, there are the fansubbers. This is usually the second place anime fans get their anime. I've been told there are many subbers and even more distributers on the net. Giving the actual site of these fansubbers could be an infringement of rule#4 so the most I'll do is say to look around club web pages carefully and you'll find at least one.

*runs away and hides in a corner away from the scary mods*

Thats a definite :dot: however if you use a resource site such as animespider.com (which is an affiliate of this site) or anipike.com , you could prolly find some good distributers :dot: some are more reputable then others so do a little research :dot: but just as rei-gouki said, we can't hand out the direct links :D

meilinrei
06-10-01, 11:03 PM
Originally posted by cloakactive
Ok... do you like the idea of Touya and Yukito being together? I think they are rather cute, but I also liked the possibility of Touya with Kaho (Mizuki-sensei for those who don't know her 1st name)...
I think they are a cute couple! :kawaii:
I haven't seen all eps, and only a couple from 40-70, but I still think they are a cute couple!

4th thing: Isn't it really really cute how Shaoran can act like such a hard ass but hes really a big softie inside. :heh:
Syaoran is so adorable when he blushes! :)


While we're talking about CCS, has anyone heard about more eps? Or another season?

rei-gouki
08-10-01, 12:50 AM
There are ONLY 70 eps (broken into 3 seasons, though I might be wrong since it's based on a couple of assumptions I've made) and 2 movies. The first movie occurs after ep 35 and the second occurs after ep 70. If you've seen the second movie, you'll know that it IS the end, though I wouldn't mind more.

BUT I heard from my teacher that they once broadcasted a summary of CCS on some Japanese channel (might have been a satellite channel you can get in Australia or something). I think it was 45 minutes or something (note: I've actually TOTALLY forgotten how long it was so don't expect it to be anywhere near right) and they basically recapped every one of the 70eps at the very least.

Takahashi
08-10-01, 06:53 AM
Originally posted by rei-gouki


Actually, Touya has more magical power than Sakura. That's why Yukito was drawn more to Touya than Sakura. That power is further demonstrated in his ablility to see the spirit of Nadesico, something Sakura couldn't do until much later in the series.

If Touya is so powerfull, how comes he can't detect the Clow Cards? How did that books comes into their possesion anyway, its not like its an artifacts that you could buy or find in a tomb.

Takahashi
08-10-01, 07:10 AM
Another question.
When they caught Time(episode 12), the card flew towards Shoaran instead of to Sakura. Their explanation was, the cards belongs to the one who transforms it back. I have no problems with this, but in episode 8(I think, first appearance of Li Shoaran) the same situation with the Thunder card only this card went to Sakura instead of Shoaran.

fu fu berry
08-10-01, 08:57 AM
Touya and Yuki are kinda weird. Yaoi/yuri is frequent in Shoujo anime, but still... wouldn't Yue feel weird around Touya??

What bugs me most aboot the series is that they're a bunch of ten-year-olds. O_o I know that kids can get crushes, but Sakura runs around chasing Yukito practically all the time. And how can Tomoyo be so sure of her sexuality at that age?

I'm done speculating. :D Don't get me wrong, i like the show, it's just these lil' nitpicks i have.

meilinrei
08-10-01, 07:48 PM
Originally posted by rei-gouki
There are ONLY 70 eps (broken into 3 seasons, though I might be wrong since it's based on a couple of assumptions I've made) and 2 movies. The first movie occurs after ep 35 and the second occurs after ep 70. If you've seen the second movie, you'll know that it IS the end, though I wouldn't mind more.


i don't want to watch the movies until i see all the eps, so i haven't seen either movie. that might explain it :)

i don't think Yukito and Touya's relationship would be considered Yaoi.
not sure about how Yue would feel around Touya... you'd think kind of uncomfortable
Tomoyo most likely isn't sure of her sexuality, which is why she seems to like Sakura.

Takahashi
08-10-01, 08:19 PM
Still the kids in CCS seems a wee bit too mature IMO. Heck, they are even more maturer than me and I am heading towards 23:heh:.

rei-gouki
08-10-01, 11:53 PM
Originally posted by Takahashi
If Touya is so powerfull, how comes he can't detect the Clow Cards?
Not sure. Maybe he doesn't understand his abilities that well. Whatever the case, he definitely has the ability of differentiating one life force from another. There's also that thing he does with his part time jobs. He keeps turning up for work where Clow Cards are.

Originally posted by Takahashi
How did that books comes into their possesion anyway, its not like its an artifacts that you could buy or find in a tomb.
It isn't explained well. It was basically forseen by Clow Reed. The best description, I think, was that it was passed down, person to person, probably by the will of the book.

Originally posted by Takahashi
Another question.
When they caught Time(episode 12), the card flew towards Shoaran instead of to Sakura. Their explanation was, the cards belongs to the one who transforms it back. I have no problems with this, but in episode 8(I think, first appearance of Li Shoaran) the same situation with the Thunder card only this card went to Sakura instead of Shoaran.
As far as I know, the card chooses its own master. I'm not exactly sure what the criteria are but it seems to vary from card to card. In the manga, there is no such problem.


fu fu berry: In a conversation about, Tomoyo, my club coined the term "Sakura-sexual". Besides, it's a family trait.

Black_Knight
09-10-01, 12:03 AM
70 episodes!?! :ekk:


Quick question… Do they ever age? :heh:

cloakactive
09-10-01, 01:14 AM
Originally posted by Black_Knight
70 episodes!?! :ekk:


Quick question… Do they ever age? :heh:

:dodgy:


*sigh* Of course they do. They grow up and change grades as one would expect. Its not like a CardCaptor could catch all of them and do the the stuff from the second story arc all i one grade....

rascal45
09-10-01, 10:55 PM
And I think in the conclusion of the manga, Shoaran and Sakura are in junior high I think. I'm not so sure.

cloakactive
09-10-01, 11:00 PM
Originally posted by rascal45
And I think in the conclusion of the manga, Shoaran and Sakura are in junior high I think. I'm not so sure.

rascal is correct. :) If my memory has failed me, well, I'll be damned b/c thats how i remember it ending. :p

rei-gouki
09-10-01, 11:20 PM
You're both right. The only thing I'm not sure about is whether they're in first or second year, jr high. I'll have to look into that.

cloakactive
10-10-01, 02:36 AM
Originally posted by rei-gouki
You're both right. The only thing I'm not sure about is whether they're in first or second year, jr high. I'll have to look into that.

Don't quote me on this, but I'm pretty damn sure it was the first year Jr high.

Asukatoo
10-10-01, 09:46 AM
i just watched the movies...boy am i scared of tomoyo :lol:

KardKaptor
11-10-01, 01:57 PM
Yeah, it is first year Jnr High, when the second movie ends and same with the manga.

Also, about everyone speculating about Tomoyo and Sakura. I don't know if it is love as in sexual attraction more of a sisterly love. See, it's my theory that because Tomoyo has almost no one of her family around most of the time (her mother is head of some blah blah toy company and she hangs with bodyguards!! -- > w00t?) that when she found Sakura was a "magical girl" that she decided I am going to help her, cause I have nothing else to do!

Besides...don't they turn out to be related to each other?? (sjeesh..this anime) Also, yukito and Touya..i got no qualms with. However.....I am a little worried about Yue. See, he is like the total opposite of Yukito. Does Yue like it?? I don't think he would approve. ^^

Then again....Yukito is Yues' earth form...so is Yue the gay one?? Or has his earth form gone awol and decided to bat for the same team??

Please CLAMP, can you just go back fix it all up so that Touya and Yukito never get together :D LOL j/k

Yue is too cool dammn it to be tied down to some puny mortal :D j/k

cloakactive
11-10-01, 05:21 PM
I have only one complaint about one of your point in your otherwise good post Kardkaptor... Tomoyo-chan falls in love with Sakura BEFORE she becomes the card captor.... she just goes from fanatical to fantical zealot when she finds out that Sakura had become a "magical girl"..... and as for Tomoyo chan having nothing to do... she started work on the costumes before hand... why you may ask? Because someday she wanted Sakura to try them on.... makes you wonder. :heh:

rascal45
11-10-01, 07:56 PM
Originally posted by cloakactive
I have only one complaint about one of your point in your otherwise good post Kardkaptor... Tomoyo-chan falls in love with Sakura BEFORE she becomes the card captor.... she just goes from fanatical to fantical zealot when she finds out that Sakura had become a "magical girl"..... and as for Tomoyo chan having nothing to do... she started work on the costumes before hand... why you may ask? Because someday she wanted Sakura to try them on.... makes you wonder. :heh:

I think that you are talking about the Valentine Drama CD that Tomoyo said that she was in love with Sakura.

*Reads the final part of the message*

;) I think that is what you call hinting on the obvious.

cloakactive
12-10-01, 03:31 PM
New spoiler..... but before i do start asking question you will have had to have seen the second Card Captor Sakura Movie.... Just in case those of you dont' know, the second movie happens after the whole 70 eps... so you won't wanna read it....


Now on to the question!
























Ok... if Eriol-kun is the reincarnation of Clow Reed, how on earth can you possible just "forget" about the strongest card possibly ever created? So powerfull that even the guardians of the book are also defenseless?!? I mean come on now! Don't you find it a bit, dodgy? :dodgy:

Takahashi
12-10-01, 05:48 PM
Reply to Claokactive spoiler, so you guess it, big spoiler coming up
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Eriol did apologise about remembering his memory(or better yet masters memory) too late, also that memory was triggered when the final sealed card was unleashed right from underneath his house. What I don't understand is, why does the card change its name from "emptiness" to "Hope". Also would this not upset the balance, since hope is a positive thing and all Sakura's card are positive, so the balance would tilt towards positive since there is no negative to negate it(bring it back to balance).
BTW: why are we giving spoilers alert, you already stated in your first post that this thread is gonna contain heavy spoilers:)

cloakactive
12-10-01, 06:19 PM
Originally posted by Takahashi
Eriol did apologise about remembering his memory(or better yet masters memory) too late, also that memory was triggered when the final sealed card was unleashed right from underneath his house. What I don't understand is, why does the card change its name from "emptiness" to "Hope".
Because she had to lose something to turn the card. What I speculate what she didnt' want to lose was Shaorans love for her... so her greatest hope was that she didnt' lost it... which is why the card turned into hope? I'm not really sure on that answer... but thats how i viewed it.


Also would this not upset the balance, since hope is a positive thing and all Sakura's card are positive, so the balance would tilt towards positive since there is no negative to negate it(bring it back to balance).
But if you tink about it... thats when the powers cards were drawn from the powers of the Moon and the Sun. With the power of Sakuras Stars, there is probably no need for a negative card to balance out the power of the other cards.


BTW: why are we giving spoilers alert, you already stated in your first post that this thread is gonna contain heavy spoilers:)
Well, the reason being is that some people tend to disregard reading the first post on a thread.... those silly people. :P

Takahashi
13-10-01, 08:10 PM
Mind you that have only seen up to episode 34, but I don't mind spoilers at all.
Why didn't Kero chan tell Sakura that Yukito=Yue=Gaurdian? Also why didn't Yukito intervene or help with collecting the cards?(up till now, he hasn't done anything yet)
Yukito has this powerfull aura around him, why did Touya not notice it?(Sakura and Shoaran can sense his power)
Why does all the preminiscent dreams of Sakura allways involve Tokyo Tower?
Why does their grandfather only wanted to see Sakura, Touya counts as Nadesico child too doesn't he?
Does the grandfather ever show his face again or is it a one time only?
Which character of CCS do you like most, mine is Touya. He reminds me a lot of me and my little sister:D. It allway funny when he calls Sakura goyiruu:lol: (Monster)

cloakactive
14-10-01, 03:03 PM
Originally posted by Takahashi
Mind you that have only seen up to episode 34, but I don't mind spoilers at all.
Why didn't Kero chan tell Sakura that Yukito=Yue=Gaurdian?
Because even Keo-chan didn't know that Yukito was the false form of Yue (the other guardian)

Also why didn't Yukito intervene or help with collecting the cards?(up till now, he hasn't done anything yet)
Because he is the Judge, hes the one who will judge whether or not the Chosen one (chosen by Kereberos) is worthy of being the Master of the Clow Cards. Also, Just like Kereberos, in order for Yue to attain his True shape, the Cardcaptor must have enough magical powers before the guardians can manifest and reveal their true forms.

Yukito has this powerfull aura around him, why did Touya not notice it?(Sakura and Shoaran can sense his power)
Actually hes known from the beginning... Keep watching and you'll see what i'm talking about in the later episodes.

Why does all the preminiscent dreams of Sakura allways involve Tokyo Tower?
In the beggining, the reason being is b/c thats where the final judgement takes place

Why does their grandfather only wanted to see Sakura, Touya counts as Nadesico child too doesn't he?
True, but its more bittersweet for him to see his grand daughter. Plus the fact I do believe he never even saw her her whole life.

Does the grandfather ever show his face again or is it a one time only?
He comes back later one.

Which character of CCS do you like most, mine is Touya. He reminds me a lot of me and my little sister:D. It allway funny when he calls Sakura goyiruu:lol: (Monster)

I happen to favor Yue... hes a rather cold cool character... and Supi! (Spinel Sun)... When Supi eats sweets hes just really really funny to watch. :D

Takahashi
14-10-01, 05:13 PM
Did Clow Leed, has little girls in my mind when he created the cards, the rods is all pink and fluffy, almost all of the cards are female characters and really cute. Would look kinda dodgy if I see a man waving with a pink magical rods:lol:

Actually when Kero chan first saw Yukito(Sakura first date with Yukito, in the Waterworld theme park), he said Guardian. Also Kero chan could detect the cards in false form, so Yukito could detect the cards too and I know Sakura carries the card everywhere she goes.

I think Yukito being a male is kinda dodgy too, I initially thought Yukito was female, cause of the female features of his face and to top it off the voice actor is a female too.

cloakactive
14-10-01, 10:06 PM
Originally posted by Takahashi
Did Clow Leed, has little girls in my mind when he created the cards, the rods is all pink and fluffy, almost all of the cards are female characters and really cute. Would look kinda dodgy if I see a man waving with a pink magical rods:lol:
During the 2nd story arc you will see what clows actual key looks like... its not pink i'll tell you that.


Actually when Kero chan first saw Yukito(Sakura first date with Yukito, in the Waterworld theme park), he said Guardian. Also Kero chan could detect the cards in false form, so Yukito could detect the cards too and I know Sakura carries the card everywhere she goes.
Yukito, during the first story arc, is not aware of his true form (in other words he DOES NOT know of the existence of Yue). Finish watching the first story arc then rethink the statement you just made.

Darklightz
14-10-01, 10:35 PM
Yay!They finally showed the second season of Card Captors!

It seems Clow Leed's magical stuff is customized by it's users.

Since this is the CCS answer booth I'll ask some question of my own.

*****Season 2 spoilers********






After Yue's judgement does Li does anything else than being Sakura's clumsy love interest or is he let down to the rank of cheerleader like so many sidekicks?(Think Sanosuke from Rurouni Kenshin).

Are there more Clow Cards to capture after Yue's judgement?The little Clow Leed seems to be making new ones in dark blue.

Ok now there's this young Clow Leed doing challenges for Sakura,but what are the little black cat and the girl with him?

******Spoilers end********

It's a nice series,although it would be much better if the character weren't so clueless...

cloakactive
15-10-01, 01:30 AM
Originally posted by Darklightz
Yay!They finally showed the second season of Card Captors!

It seems Clow Leed's magical stuff is customized by it's users.
Good observation, and you are correct that the staff is customized to the user.

Since this is the CCS answer booth I'll ask some question of my own.

*****Season 2 spoilers********






After Yue's judgement does Li does anything else than being Sakura's clumsy love interest or is he let down to the rank of cheerleader like so many sidekicks?(Think Sanosuke from Rurouni Kenshin).
For the most part he does get cut down, but he still has his moments you know. :)


Are there more Clow Cards to capture after Yue's judgement?The little Clow Leed seems to be making new ones in dark blue.
No, there are no more Clow Cards for Sakura to Capture. The main goal in the second story arc (third season) at this point is to convert the remaning Clow Cards into Sakura Cards.


Ok now there's this young Clow Leed doing challenges for Sakura,but what are the little black cat and the girl with him?
That would be Supi (spinel sun) and Ruby Moon. Basically they are the new guardians (the equivalent of Kero chan and Yue)

******Spoilers end********

It's a nice series,although it would be much better if the character weren't so clueless...
I agree, but they are all just so uber kawaii ne? :D

rei-gouki
15-10-01, 01:47 AM
NANI??!! They started the second arc already!!! Doh!... wait you guys talking about Cheez TV?

... so uber kawaii ne?

hehe, English, German and Japanese. Cool. :cool:

Darklightz
15-10-01, 02:27 PM
I'm watching it on Teletoon.

Hehe,it's true they're all kawaii.I especially like the Power Card,she's the cutest one.And it was so funny to see a huge destructive force turn out to be a little girl in a pink dress :lol:

cloakactive
15-10-01, 05:48 PM
Originally posted by rei-gouki
NANI??!! They started the second arc already!!! Doh!... wait you guys talking about Cheez TV?

Just so that you and everyone else knows... I have seen CCS in its entire length in Japanese, subtitled, including both movies... so i wouldn't/won't know anything about the english version and when those are being released and what not. Sorry. :heh:

Takahashi
15-10-01, 06:11 PM
Back to my previous question(Why did Kero Chan did not warn Sakura about Yue?) since it was not a satisfying answer since I have new evidence, can be seen as Kereborous was bragging about his true form when Sakura Captor the first high powered elemental card Firey(translated Fiery for some strange reason). I made a capture of the scene, but you can also check it for yourseld in episode 37 at 4 min and 18 sec. "That guy" is referred to Yukito as can be maided out in previous discussion with Sakura.

Takahashi
15-10-01, 06:34 PM
In episode three at 16 min and 50 sec, Kero Chan said; "What is she doing dating her Guardian"(For some reason I cannot capture this frame)

Also has anyone seen the interview with Iwao Junko(Daidouji Tomoyo)? She sounds real difference from her voice acting, as she demonstrated by reading one of her fans fanmail, I was speechless as it where to how good she was.

Darklightz
15-10-01, 06:37 PM
Maybe he meant Li?Because it between those two who will be the master of the Cards.

I think Kero didn't warn her because it would have worried her for nothing.I mean,what do you want him to tell her?

"Sakura I know you don't have all the cards and you are still inexperienced but I want to tell you that soon a guy's going to come and attack you for the cards,and some of the cards won't work on him,but don't let that worry you."

And besides,her goal is to catch the cards,not beat Yue.Yue's just there to make sure Sakura is powerful enough to keep them (as we can see in the second arc she has lots of trouble managing the magic of the cards)

rei-gouki
15-10-01, 11:39 PM
As I understand it, Kero isn't allowed to tell Sakura. And I don't think Kero has seen Yue's false form. From one ep of the Eng dub, Kero explains that he actualy thought Mizuki (Mackenzi) was the other guardian at one point but thought otherwise when there were instances of her actually assisting in the capture of the cards. I haven't seen the Japanese so I can't say for sure that the dub was right. For that, I pass to cloakactive.

For that ep three bit, I'll have to go over the ep and check out the Japanese. IMO, there was probably an overlap in meanings.

cloakactive
16-10-01, 01:00 AM
Originally posted by Takahashi
Back to my previous question(Why did Kero Chan did not warn Sakura about Yue?) since it was not a satisfying answer since I have new evidence, can be seen as Kereborous was bragging about his true form when Sakura Captor the first high powered elemental card Firey(translated Fiery for some strange reason). I made a capture of the scene, but you can also check it for yourseld in episode 37 at 4 min and 18 sec. "That guy" is referred to Yukito as can be maided out in previous discussion with Sakura.
No offense Takahashi, but i'm about to beat the living crap out of you if you dont' start reading my posts... :redhot: But I'll try to explain it more clearly. :heh: Kerochan Knows of the existence of Yue, however, what he did not know was that Yukito was the false form of Yue. Yukito himself did not know the fact that he was only a false form for Yue. Mizuki Kaho (Sakuras teacher) is very strong and full of Moon magic you could say. Because she has this power, Kerochan though Mizuki-sensei was the false form of Yue. The reason that Yukito is not suspected as being the other guardian is because YUE INTENTIONALLY SUPPRESED ALL OF HIS MAGIC POWERS WHILE IN HIS FALSE FORM!. Thus the reason why NO ONE!, NOT EVEN KEREBEROS knew that Yukito was the false form.

If you dont' understand that i'm going to fly over to whereever you are, or drive, and make you watch all the episodes i have sitting in my room untill you get it. ARGH! :redhot: :p :heh:

Takahashi
16-10-01, 04:37 AM
I have all the eps at home including specials, 2 movies, omake and two interview with Iwao Junko:lol: I just haven't seen it all:heh:, I haven't got alot of time to work on all 70 eps in a row, so 10 eps at a time is enough for a day:)
Unless you can drive over the atlantic ocean, I don't think you would make it by car:D
Uhmmm, you still haven't explained episode 3, Li wasn't there, Touya is her brother so he can't be a guardian, Tomoyo doesn't have any power and they haven't even met Kaho yet. I think I will go with the vow of silence thing:P

Takahashi
16-10-01, 08:39 PM
Just seen the final judgement episode 46. It seems that the creators are a bunch of baka's for mentioning guardian in eps three and forgot all about it. Also Kero-Chan is a baka for not even preparing Sakura for the final judgement when he knew there was gonna be one, well he could atleast have told her not to use Moon magic cards.

Final Judgement when Sakura fails was kinda dodgy:dodgy:. What timepoint did they take as referrence? Past or present?
If past, then Li Shoaran should not be in the class. Sakura and Touya would not have been born if Sakura's father and Nadesico wouldn't love each other.
If present then the picture of Nadesico should not have been removed, cause she already died before that(I don't see why you should forget about the mother of your childrens), also relationship between Yamazaki and Mihara should also not be affected since they know each other from childhood, same goes for Sakura and Tomoyo.

Also another point, in Chinese Yue means fish and yeut means moon.

rei-gouki
17-10-01, 02:35 AM
Originally posted by Takahashi
Just seen the final judgement episode 46. It seems that the creators are a bunch of baka's for mentioning guardian in eps three and forgot all about it. Also Kero-Chan is a baka for not even preparing Sakura for the final judgement when he knew there was gonna be one, well he could atleast have told her not to use Moon magic cards.
The ep 3 guardian was in reference to Touya and the word was 'fukei' as in parent/guardian, not cards' guardian (I forgot the term and am too lazy to look for it). It was a pain trying to understand that damned Osaka-ben. :p

Kero didn't say because he wasn't supposed to. From what I understand, any help automatically disqualifies the candidate being helped.

Originally posted by Takahashi
Final Judgement when Sakura fails was kinda dodgy:dodgy:. What timepoint did they take as referrence? Past or present?
If past, then Li Shoaran should not be in the class. Sakura and Touya would not have been born if Sakura's father and Nadesico wouldn't love each other.[/B]
Best I can tell, it's just any particular day when Shaoran was around but Meilin wasn't. That's assuming it's real. The whole thing felt like Sakura was being run through her memories as they are being re-written.

Originally posted by Takahashi
If present then the picture of Nadesico should not have been removed, cause she already died before that(I don't see why you should forget about the mother of your childrens), also relationship between Yamazaki and Mihara should also not be affected since they know each other from childhood, same goes for Sakura and Tomoyo.[/B]
Yamazaki and Chiharu know each other from childhood. Sakura and Tomoyo know each other from the start of the 4th grade (the year Sakura encountered the Clow Book). But niether matters because the effect was the EVERYONE touched by the Clow Cards will forget the greatest love that they had and about the Clow Cards. It gets a little iffy in certain areas in its application, but basically the feeling they had is gone. Touya and Sakura exist because Fujitaka did love Nadesico at least right up until Sakura freed the cards. After that, Clow Reed's decree is in effect.

Originally posted by Takahashi
Also another point, in Chinese Yue means fish and yeut means moon. [/B]
No, it doesn't. In Cantonese, you're half right. Fish is yu. However, for some reason, the pronounciations are all in Mandarin, which is strange since Shaoran and Meilin came from Hong Kong.

Takahashi
17-10-01, 07:00 AM
Touya isn't her guardian, her father isn't dead yet, also the situation was Touya working and Yukito on a date with Sakura, hence the confusion over the "why is she dating her guardian". If Kero chan meant to say touya, then I would have expected big brother and not parent/guardian like you said.

rei-gouki
17-10-01, 11:21 PM
Beats me what Kero was thinking when he said it. I just know what I heard. The term in Kanji is the character for father followed by the character for elder brother. Japanese family dynamics seem to indicate that Touya as elder brother is responsible for Sakura at the level of a western guardian, regardless of his age or that Fujitaka is still alive.

Anyway the word I heard has nothing to do card guardian.

I call for a second opinion to convince Takahashi.

Darklightz
18-10-01, 02:10 PM
By what I know of Japanese laws,when the parents are absent,the oldest relative is responsible for the young ones.The problem is,there are different words in english and japanese and you can't always get the direct meaning,so you take whatever fits best.Myself I would have used the word Sempai,when talking about Julian(whatever he is called in Japanese).The thing is,no one knew Julian was a Guardian,not even Kero.

To further prove that,when he meets Spinel/Spinner,he never figures out who he is.

Kayay
18-10-01, 06:25 PM
Originally posted by rei-gouki
...because the effect was the EVERYONE touched by the Clow Cards will forget the greatest love that they had and about the Clow Cards....After that, Clow Reed's decree is in effect.

While the part about forgetting about the Clow Cards makes sense should you fail the Final Judgement (wouldn't want everyone and their mother knowing about the cards now would you ? ;) ), the second half about forgetting your greatest love doesn't. Why would Clow Reed make such a decree. What is the point, besides being a plot device?

Takahashi
18-10-01, 07:20 PM
Originally posted by Kayay


While the part about forgetting about the Clow Cards makes sense should you fail the Final Judgement (wouldn't want everyone and their mother knowing about the cards now would you ? ;) ), the second half about forgetting your greatest love doesn't. Why would Clow Reed make such a decree. What is the point, besides being a plot device?

Probably because Sakura and any other owner would think, its allright with me if I forget about the card, then they wouldn't have to collect them, seeing as how much troubles those cards where. Also there is this fixiation of Japanese directors with love is the most important thing in the world, thus logically no love is worse than doom of the planet idea, seems a bit dodgy to us but who knows what they where thinking except them.

rei-gouki
19-10-01, 03:18 AM
Originally posted by Kayay
While the part about forgetting about the Clow Cards makes sense should you fail the Final Judgement (wouldn't want everyone and their mother knowing about the cards now would you ? ;) ), the second half about forgetting your greatest love doesn't. Why would Clow Reed make such a decree. What is the point, besides being a plot device?
Because the decree was all encompassing, everything/one is effected. That part of the decree was intended for the cards. This is because the one thing they think most highly of is their master - the person who captured them. If you saw the second movie, you'll know what I'm talking about. This was the explanation in the manga. Clow had to erase both memories and the strong feelings for it to stick.

Darklightz: Julian/Yukito can't be called sempai by Sakura unless he preceded her in entering into a given group. For example, if he had attended the elementary school that Sakura now attends, or if he attended a club that Sakura now attends. That sort of thing.

Kayay
19-10-01, 12:42 PM
Originally posted by rei-gouki Because the decree was all encompassing, everything/one is effected. That part of the decree was intended for the cards. This is because the one thing they think most highly of is their master - the person who captured them. If you saw the second movie, you'll know what I'm talking about. This was the explanation in the manga. Clow had to erase both memories and the strong feelings for it to stick.


:confused:

Sorry, but that explaination doesn't quite make sense to me. Can you explain any clearer what you mean w/o giving too much away form the second movie (small spoilers ok). Yes, the thing the cards may think most highly of may be their master since that person is the one who captured them, but i still don't understand why the earasure of strong memories had to be involved. Besides, if Clow had to erase strong feelings in order for the first half (forgetting the cards) to take hold, wouldn't that also involve hate, courage, fear and other intense emotions besides love?

Actually, Takahashi's explaination is more along the lines of what I was originally thinking.

Side thought:
I've only seen 10 or so of the fansubbed eps, but i actually like seeing the dubbed version (when I happen to catch it on TV) only because I like to see how bad they mauled it. Its sorta like watching Mystery Science Theater. :D

rei-gouki
20-10-01, 03:33 AM
Originally posted by Kayay

:confused:

Sorry, but that explaination doesn't quite make sense to me. Can you explain any clearer what you mean w/o giving too much away form the second movie (small spoilers ok). Yes, the thing the cards may think most highly of may be their master since that person is the one who captured them, but i still don't understand why the earasure of strong memories had to be involved. Besides, if Clow had to erase strong feelings in order for the first half (forgetting the cards) to take hold, wouldn't that also involve hate, courage, fear and other intense emotions besides love?
Sorry I didn't make it totally clear. I didn't want to totally spoil it. Clow's decree only targets love because... geez i hope this post doesn't end up half way long enough to explain the meaning of life... :yawn:

OK, firstly I can't be more specific with the second movie without totally spoiling it. You'll have to see it for yourself.

Next, "Clow's decree only targets love". This is because this part, as I said before, is for the cards sake, not the people involved. He created the cards so he should know how to ensure the erasure takes hold. As far as I can see, that is the single emotion that would bring about situations that would re-awaken those memories, if that's possible at all. If he didn't, the cards would probably seek out Sakura, even after they were scattered again. Hate? For the cards to be loyal, there can be no hate. Courage and fear? Courage is a side-effect of love. Fear is set aside for love. ie. Love RULES. Clarification beyond "It's shoujo! Live with it!" available on request.

Originally posted by Kayay
Actually, Takahashi's explaination is more along the lines of what I was originally thinking.
Yeah, that would make sense if you applied to the feelings Sakura had in the beginning. However, by Judgement, she as grown up alot. And alot of anime is built on the premise that life is for living and experiences make us who we are and at judgement, she would not trade her experiences for anything. Also, she considers losing the cards equivalent to losing good friends.

And from Tomoyo's point of view, if she knew what would happen if Sakura failed (I don't remember if she was kept in the loop on this), would totally miss all her Sakura videos she made. :P

If I missed anything, let me know.

Takahashi
20-10-01, 05:49 AM
Originally posted by rei-gouki

And from Tomoyo's point of view, if she knew what would happen if Sakura failed (I don't remember if she was kept in the loop on this), would totally miss all her Sakura videos she made. :P

If I missed anything, let me know.

Now that you mentionned it, what happens to all the videos after the decree?
Like I said before, what point of time did they took as reference? Pengo King was turned upside down, video footage should arouse some memories. Tomoyo has an entire library of Sakura footage, where did they go if the card only effect the memory and love. Also an entire collection of Sakura footage is a bit hard to miss, Tomoyo started taking pictures and filming way before Sakura became a card captor. Trauma is what usually kickstart memories, familiar places, event that looks similar(Deja Vu).
BTW: I always though magic by definition cannot change peoples feeling. Atleast up till eps 46 there is no such card, the only card that came close was erase, but it can only remove memories.

rei-gouki
20-10-01, 07:14 AM
Originally posted by Takahashi
Now that you mentionned it, what happens to all the videos after the decree?
Like I said before, what point of time did they took as reference? Pengo King was turned upside down, video footage should arouse some memories. Tomoyo has an entire library of Sakura footage, where did they go if the card only effect the memory and love. Also an entire collection of Sakura footage is a bit hard to miss, Tomoyo started taking pictures and filming way before Sakura became a card captor. Trauma is what usually kickstart memories, familiar places, event that looks similar(Deja Vu).
BTW: I always though magic by definition cannot change peoples feeling. Atleast up till eps 46 there is no such card, the only card that came close was erase, but it can only remove memories.
In reverse order (for a bit):
I'm quite certain Erase can erase things as well like when it was erasing the kids on the Kimodameshi. What I'm not sure of is how much magical power it takes to do those things.

Next, I haven't seen the judgement ep for a couple of weeks now and I still don't know if they cut anything out, especially during the scene when Sakura's memories are being re-written (call it whatever you want, I'm calling it that for now). But I don't remember any visible effects of the Clow Cards remaining, such as an inverted Pengu King.

That said, I'll move onto Tomoyo's videos. If Clow Reed can create a card like Erase amongst a bunch of other cards, his power must be much greater than the card itself. I'm sure his decree will dispose of the tapes and any like material without arousing any suspicion in just about anyone.

Lastly, the "BTW": do you mean in general or specific to CCS?

Takahashi
20-10-01, 07:32 AM
What I meant is in General, but it does also applies to CCS, magic has it bounderies too.

rei-gouki
20-10-01, 10:35 AM
OK, magic is mysterious and its boundaries aren't known therefore the limitations are designed by the needs of the story. For example, Disney's Aladdin *dodges numerous foodstuffs thrown for bringing a Disney 'toon into the thread for reasons other than flaming* limited the power at feelings. In CCS, the limitation is set by available power. The cards are "lenses" (I hope I got the plural right) that focus that power for different purposes. Clow Reed seems to have had the ability to focus his power into virtually anything he wanted so anything was possible.

Kayay
22-10-01, 05:17 AM
Originally posted by rei-gouki
Next, "Clow's decree only targets love". This is because this part, as I said before, is for the cards sake, not the people involved. He created the cards so he should know how to ensure the erasure takes hold. As far as I can see, that is the single emotion that would bring about situations that would re-awaken those memories, if that's possible at all. If he didn't, the cards would probably seek out Sakura, even after they were scattered again. Hate? For the cards to be loyal, there can be no hate. Courage and fear? Courage is a side-effect of love. Fear is set aside for love. ie. Love RULES. Clarification beyond "It's shoujo! Live with it!" available on request.


10-Q. That actually makes some twisted kind of sense. :lol: Seriously, however, it does. I don't want to start over-analyzing it beyond, since I hate over-analyzing anime to death. ;)

I have both movies, but I still have to try and catch up on my CCS eps. BTW, What ep does the first movie take place after?

Side thought: The nice thing about an all-encompasing CCS thread is that you can talk about anything CCS and not go off topic! :D

Speaking of magic's boundaries:
I think DBZ had some kind of similar limitation on the "magic" of the dragon. I'm no hard core DBZ fan, so don't quote me on this, but I think the power of the dragon to grant wishes was limited to what was in the power of its (the dragon's) creator (kami).

I liked the genie in Aladdin.

rei-gouki
22-10-01, 11:09 AM
Originally posted by Kayay
BTW, What ep does the first movie take place after?
I'm pretty sure it occurs after ep35, the last ep of season 1. I think it was supposed to coincide with the Winter break or something.

Originally posted by Kayay
Speaking of magic's boundaries:
I think DBZ had some kind of similar limitation on the "magic" of the dragon. I'm no hard core DBZ fan, so don't quote me on this, but I think the power of the dragon to grant wishes was limited to what was in the power of its (the dragon's) creator (kami).

According to the explanation given in the English dub by that little Namek friend of Goku's son (names escape me for the moment) the possibilities were limited by the size of the DBs and the number of wishes they were designed to grant. He/it gave this explanation when he/it was making the new balls in DBZ.

Originally posted by Kayay
I liked the genie in Aladdin.
Me too.

cloakactive
22-10-01, 04:56 PM
OK CCS Lovers... Lets move on to a new question. I've had my time out to cool off from the headache that Takahashi gave me. :p And I've come up with some other stuff for us all to comprehend.

Can you entertain the thought for a moment... what if sakura was not the "chosen one" appointed by Kereberos? What if it were Tomoyo-chan? :lol: Can you imagine the results? :heh:

Other things... How about we switch the personalities of the guardians themselves? Yet still keep them as the roles assigned to them. Imagine a serious and cold Kereberos, and a Yue with an Osaka accent getting really happy, smiley, and giggly b/c of sweet stuff.

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Darklightz
22-10-01, 06:51 PM
Originally posted by cloakactive
OK CCS Lovers... Lets move on to a new question. I've had my time out to cool off from the headache that Takahashi gave me. :p And I've come up with some other stuff for us all to comprehend.

Can you entertain the thought for a moment... what if sakura was not the "chosen one" appointed by Kereberos? What if it were Tomoyo-chan? :lol: Can you imagine the results? :heh:

Other things... How about we switch the personalities of the guardians themselves? Yet still keep them as the roles assigned to them. Imagine a serious and cold Kereberos, and a Yue with an Osaka accent getting really happy, smiley, and giggly b/c of sweet stuff.

Psycho thoughts brought to you by... (no sponsor at this time)

Oh no....It's the TWILIGHT ZONE!!!

A friend of mine has a Theory that both Tomoyo and Sakura are Card Captors,but it just happen Sakura found Kero first.It would be explained by the way Tomoyo also seems to have magic powers and in one episode Tomoyo tells the mirror card not to tell Sakura he found out her subterfuge.Only a Card Captor can tell a card what to do.

As for the guardian switch...well,their personalities goes with their appearances.Even Kero loses his Osaka accent and joyous enthusiasm when he transforms into KereBeros.or else it would look just too freaky

Kayay
22-10-01, 07:29 PM
Originally posted by Darklightz
As for the guardian switch...well,their personalities goes with their appearances.Even Kero loses his Osaka accent and joyous enthusiasm when he transforms into KereBeros.or else it would look just too freaky

Well, what if Yue had a cute alter ego form like Kero? I wonder what he'd look like....hmmmm...

Takahashi
22-10-01, 07:33 PM
Originally posted by Darklightz


Oh no....It's the TWILIGHT ZONE!!!

A friend of mine has a Theory that both Tomoyo and Sakura are Card Captors,but it just happen Sakura found Kero first.It would be explained by the way Tomoyo also seems to have magic powers and in one episode Tomoyo tells the mirror card not to tell Sakura he found out her subterfuge.Only a Card Captor can tell a card what to do.

As for the guardian switch...well,their personalities goes with their appearances.Even Kero loses his Osaka accent and joyous enthusiasm when he transforms into KereBeros.or else it would look just too freaky

You mean Touya, right? Or I haven't seen that episode yet.
Also it was predestined that Sakura was to find the book and no one else, Clow Leed said that to Sakura after Sakura defeat Yue. There is no such thing as coincidence, thats the main theme of CCS. So its either Touya finds it or Sakura finds it, thats what you are proposing isn't it? It also explains why Touya is always doing an odd job everywhere Sakura went.

For imagination sake, if Tomoyo was to be Card Capture, would she ask Sakura to film her? or would she capture the cards and filming Sakura at the same time? It would be very complicated:heh:, If this was the case than I would really missed the complex interaction between Touya and Sakura, cause the main focus would shift to an only child.

Takahashi
22-10-01, 07:36 PM
Originally posted by Kayay


Well, what if Yue had a cute alter ego form like Kero? I wonder what he'd look like....hmmmm...

He would probably look like Yukito;) Everybody seems to like Yukito cuz he is hmm well, cute is the word:D.

cloakactive
22-10-01, 08:11 PM
Originally posted by Takahashi


He would probably look like Yukito;) Everybody seems to like Yukito cuz he is hmm well, cute is the word:D.

He'd prolly have blonde hair and a tan! Guess we wouldn't be calling him snow rabbit... golden tiger? :heh:

yes i'm being very lame today

Takahashi
22-10-01, 08:23 PM
Hmmm, Imagine Yukito, looks like a half foot tall white bunny with big@ss ears and a fussy tail:D Seeing him flying all over the place flapping his ears:D

Darklightz
22-10-01, 09:23 PM
Sorry,I don't know the japanese names.I meant Sakura's brother.

cloakactive
22-10-01, 09:41 PM
Originally posted by Darklightz
Sorry,I don't know the japanese names.I meant Sakura's brother.

Sakuras brother is Touya... Tomoyo-chan is in the english version, from what i've been told, is Madison.

Ratty
23-10-01, 12:01 AM
Originally posted by cloakactive

Can you entertain the thought for a moment... what if sakura was not the "chosen one" appointed by Kereberos? What if it were Tomoyo-chan? :lol: Can you imagine the results? :heh:



Then the series would be known as "CCT" or Cardcaptor Tomoyo! :lol: But that would mean she has to take on the additional task of costume designing herself! Then what would Sakura do in the meantime? :heh:

Mystical Saria
25-10-01, 03:33 AM
Come to think of it! What would Sakura do if Tomoyo/Madisun was the cardcaptor?

rei-gouki
25-10-01, 03:51 AM
I know, Sakura can wear a helmet cam and be the "more able than the heroine" sidekick and still film the action!!

And the earlier possibility, Touya finding the cards first... how's Li supposed to follow him around during school hours? Hmm... the battle to be the first to capture each card would be far more fierce and potentially enjoyable though...

Darklightz
25-10-01, 12:28 PM
Yeah,it would be cool to see the rivalty of these two guys develop further.

cloakactive
25-10-01, 05:26 PM
Originally posted by rei-gouki
I know, Sakura can wear a helmet cam and be the "more able than the heroine" sidekick and still film the action!!

And the earlier possibility, Touya finding the cards first... how's Li supposed to follow him around during school hours? Hmm... the battle to be the first to capture each card would be far more fierce and potentially enjoyable though...

Thats a very scary thought... Touya vs Li... Personally I think Touya would capture more of the cards then Li. I'd love to see an all out fight between the two. It would be very cool to watch. And then we could toss in Yukito for an element of comedy. They'd both be fighting and then Yukito would come in. Oh boy... can you just see what they're reactions would be? :lol:

Darklightz
25-10-01, 05:45 PM
Just so I understand right,Touya is Sakura's brother and Yukito is the guy with glasses that transforms into Yue right?

cloakactive
25-10-01, 05:52 PM
Originally posted by Darklightz
Just so I understand right,Touya is Sakura's brother and Yukito is the guy with glasses that transforms into Yue right?

Thats correct.

Black_Knight
25-10-01, 09:41 PM
OMG I didn't know that! Noooo!!!! Oh, Yuki how can this be! :bawling:

Takahashi
26-10-01, 07:47 AM
Originally posted by Black_Knight
OMG I didn't know that! Noooo!!!! Oh, Yuki how can this be! :bawling:

You haven't been following this thread very long, have you?
Cause this entire thread consist of spoilers and Yukito is Yue has been mentionned from the first pages to the last page, so where have you been?

delerium
26-10-01, 09:21 AM
Originally posted by Takahashi


You haven't been following this thread very long, have you?
Cause this entire thread consist of spoilers and Yukito is Yue has been mentionned from the first pages to the last page, so where have you been?

lol true, true :lol:

cloakactive
26-10-01, 03:36 PM
Originally posted by delerium


lol true, true :lol:

:fftopic:

delerium: If you post, please contribute to the thread ok? ;)

BK: Glad you decided to join us. If you have something insightfull to contribute please do so, we'd be interested to know what you seriously think of the series.

Anyways.... lets get back on Topic shall we? New thoughts and questions! Your favorite Costume! Lets divide it up as well.

1) Which Movie Costume did you prefer? Movie 1 or Movie 2?

2) Which Costume from the FIRST STORY ARC did you like?

3) Which Costume from the SECOND STORY ARC did you like?

You may be wondering why I divided it up... Thats because theres just so many designs to choose from! We should thank Tomoyo-chan later ne? :D :up:

Asukatoo
26-10-01, 10:26 PM
i loved movie 2's costume. actually i liked both li and sakuras costumes in that movie :)

rascal45
27-10-01, 12:19 AM
Neko-Sakura costume!!! Kawaii!! :kawaii:

Mmeeva
27-10-01, 11:17 AM
I like the Neko costume as well. I even saw someone cosplay as it, very sexy. :D

Mystical Saria
28-10-01, 05:31 PM
Yeah movie 2's costume looks really good!

cloakactive
30-10-01, 10:54 PM
Ya know... I haven't even answered my own question. :lol: I like Movie 2 costumes as well... however I must say that the costumes from the second story arc are very keen indeed. I especially like the Blue Outfit with the stars in the front and the back with the cute matching hat. If i can remember which ep it was I would say.

Ever wonder what Tomoyo-chan (for those who dont' know, that would be Madison in the english dubs...) does with the costumes after Sakuras used them? I say she prolly has the costumes bronzed. :lol:

Mystical Saria
31-10-01, 06:43 AM
:lol: Yeah true! Her most tresured items!

Darklightz
31-10-01, 01:14 PM
When she grows up she'll surely be a fashion designer.And her first work will be the famous Card Captor series (teddy bear accesories included) :D

And have you noticed that despite being rich and a fashion fanatic she always wear simple clothing?Tasteful but simple.

Mystical Saria
31-10-01, 05:15 PM
Yeah true!!! Maybe she doesn't like wearing extravagant clothing but likes designing them!

rei-gouki
31-10-01, 09:08 PM
Just as she knows how a super heroine is meant to dress, she also knows how the side kick is meant to dress and it CAN'T be flashier than the heroine. :)

cloakactive
31-10-01, 11:28 PM
Kerberos (Kero-chan) or Spinel Sun (Supi)

Personally... when Supi gets drunk, hes really damn funny and overly cute... more so then Kerochan. But when Spinel Sun is being serious, obviously Kerochan is the funnier of the two. My thoughts?

Its a tie I tell you! :)

Asukatoo
03-11-01, 08:20 AM
I would have to say it is a tie too.
but if me's had to make a choice i spose it would have to be kero-chan. :D
Just a litte too biased to the old favourites :lol:

rei-gouki
08-11-01, 11:34 PM
Originally posted by cloakactive
Kerberos (Kero-chan) or Spinel Sun (Supi)

Personally... when Supi gets drunk, hes really damn funny and overly cute... more so then Kerochan. But when Spinel Sun is being serious, obviously Kerochan is the funnier of the two. My thoughts?

Its a tie I tell you! :)
I pretty much agree. Kero is a constant while Supi goes all over the place.

cloakactive
09-11-01, 01:30 AM
Originally posted by rei-gouki

I pretty much agree. Kero is a constant while Supi goes all over the place.

Ya know, I think its due to Supis split personality, is what draws me personally to his character. I mean, its a trip that he gets "drunk" off of sweats. :lol: And he just goes around shooting anything he wants while hes "drunk".

PKMN
04-12-01, 05:08 PM
a think that cardcapter sakura is probaly the cutest femmale charector in anime ive ever seen:o but dont ya think she is the kind of person that the officail hentai sites would eventually catch on to, she is cute and the hentai webmasters would find it hard to let go of a few images with cardcapter sakura mastipating on goten or somthing.:lol: like that.
by the way,dont you think that this to weird somtimes,because kero-chan is called kero in the english version and the show itsellf is called cardcapters so there