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Darklightz
30-09-01, 11:24 AM
In episode 3,just after Ezra announces she is pregnant and everyone goes to congratulate her,we can see BC discretly taking a disk from a console.
Then at the end of episode 4 she puts the disk in one of the message pods sent to Taakaru and Meijeru.
What did the disk contain?And why did BC do it?Is she a traitor working for earth like Rat Bastard?
Yeah what is with that? I noticed it to, but asumed that they either decided to drop that plot line or that it would come into the second season.
I doubt that BC is working for earth, as I don't think she has had an opertunity to be contacted by them, and she seems as shocked as everybody else when it is revealed that earth is behind everything.
DNA_Master
01-10-01, 10:55 PM
I think that that disk contained bridge data recordings.
maybe she didn't want the other crewmembers to see what she was sending back?
come to think of it, she DOES act rather skittish later on when she is loading up the message pods, such as when the captain interrupts her.
hmm... maybe we find out next season?
Takahashi
02-10-01, 04:25 AM
How about I have a definate answer for you right now.
Notice how the pirates leader nods at BC, when BC took the disc out of the console. Well the answer is because they know something more about whats on the datadisc and doesn't want the rest of the crew to find out about it, I guess they think the crew wasn't ready to handle the truth just yet. I took a screenshot of the proof, scene located at 5min and 50second. PowerDVD just doesn't want me to capture the second scene of that datadisc so I can only tell you where to find it, its located at 19 min and 25 second.
I don't seehow that screenshot proves anything. All it shows is the info being downlosded from the enemy ship.
Takahashi
03-10-01, 05:19 AM
Look closure, its the same Data disc in both scene, plus the Boss did nod and smiled to BC when BC took the disc out of the console. Why else would she direct to BC in the first place.
Darklightz
03-10-01, 05:47 AM
First of all,I don't see her nod at all.Secondly,when she retrieved the disk and the Boss talked to her she was surprised as if she was thinking about something else and replied hesitantly.
Tell me, do all your disks look completlely different? No, most of them probably look the same. For all we know all three scenes could involve different disks. So, once again, that pic proves nothing.
Takahashi
03-10-01, 07:17 AM
Kinda hard stealing a disc when the boss is sitting right in front of you, pay attention to the layout of the ship, where the console is centered in between the ships navigation pod and the captains console, the console is closer to the captain console, might as well say that the thing is right in front of her nose. I know what you all are gonna say, "but she was distracted by the crowd around Ezra", it is a possibility, but believe it or not its your own choice, I can't give a more satisfying answer than that.
Also note that they where watching the Data disc about the "Harvest" prior to the incident and up till then it is the only copy, also only BC and the Boss are the only two who have seen the disc before everyone else. I also watch episode 5: A sweet trap(I think that was the title?), where they collected data from the sandplanet. The Boss said at the start; "I am not worried about you BC, but I think the kids are not ready for it".
Darklightz
03-10-01, 10:11 AM
Ok,let's say the Boss does know about the disk,BC still seemed suspicious.
Also,in the episode Rat Bastard appeared him,he tried to "seduce" BC.She only smiled and he backed-off.Now Rat Bastard is arrogant not to be impressed by a smile.Maybe he recognized her as an earth agent?Whatever way you put it,BC's behavior is very strange
Takahashi
03-10-01, 11:09 AM
Still, if they are gonna named BC a traitor in the next season, then it would be a big turn off for me, cause I like the character. Sneaky as she may be, I still think she is one of the most intruiging character. If she smiles that way at you I think you would backoff to, that look can only be done by women, just plain nasty that kinda power a woman has over men.
I think the sand planet reference was about being ready to act more independently, cause at the time a sandstorm was up and if they went straight away, as BC seemed to want, communication would be difficult.
Ok. This responce has alot of asumption in it.
I think that both boss & BC knew about earth BEFORE the series actually started. The way the planets act when they receve the Data disk indicate that the first Generation of each planet also knows about earth. And they are for some reason not worryed about the approching harvisters.
My guess is that they were sent out thinking that they are going to be spaired by the incoming harvisters and given some sort of payment.
Well thats my idear any way.
Hmm. Doubt it, but maybe. We probably will never know.
mi6mania
19-10-01, 09:30 PM
so whats the ANSWSER!!
lols.... all that reading didn't give me an answer...
lols
Takahashi
19-10-01, 09:53 PM
Either my theorie is right and you ain't never gonna hear another word about it or it will be explained in season 2, so lets wait and see what the future might bring us.
:nono:
I think all these data discs are different. I guess the data disc that B.C takes is owned by Ezra and might contains informations about the identity of Ezra's Oma. I think B.C is the Oma and she wouldn't want that anybody might obtain this kind of information. I consider B.C as a character who tries to appear more as a chief than a woman. It includes that she might hide everything related to her private life.
The disc insered in the pod contains the message to men and women's planet. (anyway if this disc contains a major plot element it would have been absurd having made it destroyed by the ennemies at the first launch attempt)
Excuse me if there is mistakes in grammar. I'm a french fan and I'm not used to write in english language.
Darklightz
20-10-01, 12:57 PM
Bienvenu a AnimeBoards Gaav.Dans ce cas tu devrais aller voir la French Connection http://animeboards.com/showthread.php?s=&postid=537301352#post537301352
And there's not any grammatical errors I've noticed anyway :)
Takahashi
20-10-01, 01:35 PM
Originally posted by Gaav
:nono:
I think all these data discs are different. I guess the data disc that B.C takes is owned by Ezra and might contains informations about the identity of Ezra's Oma. I think B.C is the Oma and she wouldn't want that anybody might obtain this kind of information. I consider B.C as a character who tries to appear more as a chief than a woman. It includes that she might hide everything related to her private life.
The disc insered in the pod contains the message to men and women's planet. (anyway if this disc contains a major plot element it would have been absurd having made it destroyed by the ennemies at the first launch attempt)
Excuse me if there is mistakes in grammar. I'm a french fan and I'm not used to write in english language.
It is a wonderfull experience to be a parent, why should BC wanna hide it? Also whats the Oma information doing in the ships navigation console and if anyone wants to know who the Oma is, they would only have to look into the medical databanks instead of the ships log.
AznGamer
20-10-01, 07:29 PM
Yes! BC is really a harvesting spy! She's gonna eat the men's liver!!! Raaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa! :eek:
On the second thought, or not. Wasn't the data she send was the distress message warning those two planets about the harvest?
Takahashi
20-10-01, 07:59 PM
Yup the data was send to Tarakuu and Meijira, the men's and women's homeworld, initial first two datapods where distroyed since the enemy thought it was a hostile object. The second batch was made equiped with a beacon which gives off an enemy signals so it won't be targeted as hostile, the message was received, but somehow the elder must have intercepted it and chose not to act against these data, cause they are in league with earths.
I will just say that B.C extracts the disc from Ezra's desk just at the moment she is asked who is the Oma. I take it as an answer...
Takahashi
20-10-01, 09:06 PM
If that is the case then they are definitely gonna have to give the answer in Season two since the baby has just been borned in eps 2.
mi6mania
20-10-01, 09:13 PM
great a spoiler.... hehehe
oh wells, just tell me whats on that data disk... hehehe
thankz.
Takahashi
20-10-01, 09:43 PM
Originally posted by mi6mania
great a spoiler.... hehehe
oh wells, just tell me whats on that data disk... hehehe
thankz.
I didn't tell you when, where, how, which episode and what sex the baby is, so did I really spoiled anything? If you actually think the baby isn't going to be borned, then you are not thinking commercially.
edit: Oops, I did tell in which episode it was:heh:
Also they haven't said anything about the datadisc yet.
mi6mania
21-10-01, 03:34 AM
lols....
hehhe ^_^
so if you get the dirt of whats on the disc, remember that this thread is always here
Originally posted by Takahashi
I didn't tell you when, where, how, which episode and what sex the baby is, so did I really spoiled anything? If you actually think the baby isn't going to be borned, then you are not thinking commercially.
edit: Oops, I did tell in which episode it was:heh:
Also they haven't said anything about the datadisc yet.
U know the sex of the baby? wait, it has to be a girl right? OH ya and also, was BC the donor for that baby?
Takahashi
23-10-01, 02:31 PM
Yup its a girls, now lets show Hanzo his prizes:D
You sir have won a newly born babygirl:D, good luck raising the kid.
But I don't know yet, episode three hasn't been released yet.
Darklightz
23-10-01, 02:35 PM
Is the baby named Pyoro 2? :lol:
Takahashi
23-10-01, 02:44 PM
Originally posted by Darklightz
Is the baby named Pyoro 2? :lol:
Pyoro, likes to think so, but I think it would take the whole episode three just to hear the baby's name, like "Nirvana".
baby looks like a boy to me:lol:
kinda ugly too:D
Takahashi
24-10-01, 02:51 AM
Originally posted by Hanzo
baby looks like a boy to me:lol:
kinda ugly too:D
Sorry dude, we don't take prizes back:lol:
mi6mania
24-10-01, 03:30 AM
damn, should of read this forum post... hehhee....
haven't even watched episode 13 yet.. and i found out the sex of the baby
Kishpah
24-10-01, 11:44 AM
Well.... I think that the disk BC gets from the console is the copy she wants to send to the men's planet. In this episode they aren't sure that the men are friends, so BC tryes to make the copy and send it in secret. I think that is as simple as this, and that there is no spy in the ship or simmilar.... Or it isn't? :confused:
Takahashi
24-10-01, 02:09 PM
Actually two pods where sent each time, one meant for the women's and one for the men's world. Their thinking was probably, everyone needs to know the coming danger eventhough they are enemies.
mi6mania
25-10-01, 03:05 AM
yeah, but if you say that bc took the disk to make two copies, so she can sent it to the two plants, then why would she take the disc in almost silience, when she is a high commanding officer, when she can order people to do it??
or do you think that captin of the ship won't send it??, or that she will only send it to the female plant??
Well, I rekon it was something sneaky. Like adding a special message or deleating certain bits and peices.
Takahashi
05-12-01, 09:47 PM
Originally posted by Gaav
I will just say that B.C extracts the disc from Ezra's desk just at the moment she is asked who is the Oma. I take it as an answer...
In second stage episode 8, the answer to this question theorie is a definately not, though BC did gave me a shocked there when she asked Ezra to come to the conference room, I thought they where gonna discuss husband and wives stuff, turns out Ezra's Oma is still on Meijer.
Darklightz
28-01-02, 05:56 PM
I was right!I knew there was something fishy about BC!She did betray the Nirvana crew!Although she came back soon after...I wonder what's going to happen between him and Bart now?
tekblade
28-01-02, 08:12 PM
hmm i kinda wanna know and not at the same time :lol:
oh my god! I just saw episode 10. So that was true she was a traitor. And she caught the Nuriko syndrome...
Frank_kun
17-03-02, 12:40 PM
Don't worry, watch episode 11 and your faith will be restored. ;)
I saw episode 11 but it doesn't change the fact she got something beetween... you know...
I wonder if rabat knew it...
Frank_kun
17-03-02, 01:30 PM
He probably did. If you check an old thread around here called "The signs it was coming..." you'll find all the stuff I documented for BC's little secret...:)
Darklightz
17-03-02, 05:08 PM
Hehe,I've suspected her since episode 3 of the first stage.
Frank_kun
17-03-02, 05:47 PM
The spy thing yes, but the other part? Probably not....I think it hit just about everyone from left field. ;)
ZyLiNdEr X
03-04-02, 09:23 PM
All this reading i want to know what is up with BC so i got me a copy of Vandread 2nd Stage in Japanesse but havent seen it yet,but i heard from a another Vandread post she was a guy :eek: I hope it is not true poor Bart will be crushed I think :?: But here is a cool BC WallPaper :D
ZyLiNdEr X
03-04-02, 10:45 PM
Sorry about that me put the wrong file that was to be BC not Ezra. :( well this one is BC
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