CardCaptors… Does it deserve the name of Anime?

[Black_Knight]

This is American Censorship at it's best… Mixing the episodes, Gender bending… Crushing the love… The relations being cut… Disapperances of some Charas… And so other bad things I can't think of…


So… CardCaptors… Does it deserve the name of Anime?

[icie]

Nope. CC is called CARTOON. Only CCS is anime. Although they are supposedly the same thing, they are no, because it has been mutilated so badly. In fact, even POKEMON, I would call a cartoon. It wasn't much of an anime in the first place.

[Black_Knight]

Come on… Pokemon isn't that bad… It indused seizes and had inflatable breasts! :D (Sorry for that first joke…)

[icie]

compared to some I have seen, it is pretty inferior.

[Shadow Knight]

No. CCS is a loveable enjoyable tale. Cardcaptors is a messy bunch of dubbed junk where they try and almost create a new story...plus they change a lot of how the characters are suppose to be and that frankly is stupid. It's bad enough they changed the names....grrr....

[Black_Knight]

The Exectives leave nothing to chance…

[cloakactive]

Originally posted by Black_Knight
The Exectives leave nothing to chance…

The execs SHOULD NOT HAVE cut up CCS to creat CC.... CCS was for the most part aimed at anyone who could stand cute characters, good magical girl story lines, and could be open about sexual preference and what not. CC was butchered, hacked, was attempted to be the next pokemon, marketed towards the wrong gender, opening was horribly hacked, and overall just straight out done ZERO justice.

[Foxxe]

I really liked this anime. i bought the entire series and the movies in one blow. Costs alot but it has been totally worth it. :)

[Black_Knight]

Originally posted by cloakactive


The execs SHOULD NOT HAVE cut up CCS to creat CC.... CCS was for the most part aimed at anyone who could stand cute characters, good magical girl story lines, and could be open about sexual preference and what not. CC was butchered, hacked, was attempted to be the next pokemon, marketed towards the wrong gender, opening was horribly hacked, and overall just straight out done ZERO justice.

You'd forget the Crap Storm that Mothers and Fathers of America would picket…

[Eddy]

I'm not sure how much of CCS was butchered? sometimes series just have minor changes that don't really cahnge the gender aiming. I think some people just use the cuttings as an excuse to avoid admitting they like an anime intended for small children:D

OK! OK! It was a joke! i like CCS too! i'm young at heart^^

[Black_Knight]

Originally posted by Eddy
I'm not sure how much of CCS was butchered? sometimes series just have minor changes that don't really cahnge the gender aiming. I think some people just use the cuttings as an excuse to avoid admitting they like an anime intended for small children:D

OK! OK! It was a joke! i like CCS too! i'm young at heart^^


:confused2 what was the joke?

[John Faulkner]

Seriously,I don't think the dubbed version was that bad.....I can't envisage any extra scenes telling us stuff we wouldn't already know from the cut version....

[I'm not a doll]

I was happy to watch CCS and I leave the room if CC comes anywhere near, its that simple for me.

Anyone that would dare to compare CCS to the likes of Pokemon/Digimon “the marketing drivel” should be horned to be given the name, (( BaKa ))

[Foxxe]

Originally posted by I'm not a doll

Anyone that would dare to compare CCS to the likes of Pokemon/Digimon “the marketing drivel” should be horned to be given the name, (( BaKa ))

I'm with you on that one.

[Black_Knight]

How about Tarred and Feathered?

[chieri_asuka]

heh...Uk and Australians got less cut version O.o... with original opening animation and music but of course different lyrics but still it fits in better then the American one. we got to watch from episode one! yup :D because I was wondering when Sayoran will show after it first broadcasting in australia since he didn't show up in the first episode that was broadcasted here in Australia and Sakura has umm more screen time? since they didn't cut out the scenes that might be questionable in America. I will try to video capture the opening and umm post the link? so you guys can see what out version is like?

chieri,

[John Faulkner]

Consider me a stupid tarred feathered person then......

[Dryden-san]

Maybe the version you got in England was less cut than the one we got in the states. We got maybe one episode in four, with continuity and the original personalities and relationships shot all to hell. Could be you got lucky, and ended up with a better job on the editing. Not having seen the version broadcast in the UK, I couldn't say. Anyway... Yes, I do consider Cardcaptors anime according to the strict definition, but not in spirit.

[John Faulkner]

Yeah,in England,or more specifically Nicklodeon,the story seemed to make sense,although I think I missed a few episodes in between (currently they're showing episodes where Sakura has just found out Julian's identity).

[Black_Knight]

[QUOTE]Originally posted by John Faulkner
[B]Yeah,in England,or more specifically Nicklodeon,the story seemed to make sense[/qoute]

Nicklodeon? When did they do this, or get this show?

[Mystical Saria]

Originally posted by John Faulkner
Yeah,in England,or more specifically Nicklodeon,the story seemed to make sense,although I think I missed a few episodes in between (currently they're showing episodes where Sakura has just found out Julian's identity).

Yeah she's right. We actually got the eps in order.

What I don't get is why they didn't do it in America? It's just weird! :confused:

[tamaritha]

America didn't have the eps in order because if they did, general "americans" will not watch it and interest will fall.
They did the mix-up with their own cartoon the Simpsons, whaddya expect???:rolleyes:

Also, I belive CCS should've been re-made, not cut here and there where it doesn't make sense.
Koreans got uncut, and they had to take it off because no-one liked it after a while.
Apparently, we all think CCS is a very annoying female dog.:rolleyes:

[chieri_asuka]

ah...that's interesting then I should get it from my home country since umm that's where I am from! anyways..it's not ,it's cute and rather refreshing blow of wind from CLAMP. even though I must say About TOmoyo's obesession about making cloth for Sakura is nothing new, Like in 'Cherry Project' by Naoko Takeuchi Chieri Asuka's best friend Yuki made clothes for Chieri when ever she went on a special event or a compitition...:D...that's where I get my name sake from! Chieri Asuka of Cherry Project one of the most beautiful short story by Naoko Takeuchi!!

Chieri

[tamaritha]

Interesting...I just found another Korean I think.

[John Faulkner]

They stopped showing Cardcaptors now on Nicklodeon now-probably saving up the new episodes!

[Black_Knight]

Message repeats…

Nicklodeon? When did they do this, or get this show?

[John Faulkner]

in the UK around April,so it's been a while.

[chieri_asuka]

ah ha! the volume one of the DVD released her ein australia starts with australian version of CC episode one(aka episode one in japanese)

chieri,

yup a korean ^_~

[Black_Knight]

Enjoy! ;)

[Ayanamipuff]

Originally posted by John Faulkner
(currently they're showing episodes where Sakura has just found out Julian's identity).

Who is this... Julian you speak of...?


Any how, CC is compleatly different from CCS. Its an anime by strict, technical definition, but, in my opinion, its a cartoon.

[Black_Knight]

It's Yuki…

[chieri_asuka]

O.o...hoe...I still like australian version way better, I guess australians are lucky to have less strict censorship laws on these type of media?

Chieri

[Black_Knight]

Well not as strict as Japanese laws…

[tamaritha]

If japanese laws were strict, then EVA would never have made it to the public mass.....:rolleyes:

...But then, neither would have FightAngel and Gravitation.

[Black_Knight]

Originally posted by tamaritha
If japanese laws were strict, then EVA would never have made it to the public mass.....:rolleyes:

...But then, neither would have FightAngel and Gravitation.

No… I mean in sexual content… They can't show that stuff in any format… I mean in acual shots…

[Ningen]

Originally posted by chieri_asuka
O.o...hoe...I still like australian version way better, I guess australians are lucky to have less strict censorship laws on these type of media?

Chieri

I think it's more marketing stratagey than censorship.

[chieri_asuka]

oh yeah well let's say both and it makes one good anime a laughable thing in western markets. just lok at what they did to CCS and BSSM! so many cuts and sometimes whole episodes cutout, like up to 8 from a season in BSSM. I am talking about American censorship, they are umm srticter then Japanese on terms of anime.

Chieri,

But in Japan they have *very* heavy censorship on world war history though the leaders are too ashamed to tell Japanese people the truth about the war..so the alliance, like america, UN etc ended up being you know that it was initially alliance's fault and made sure they didn't seem so cruel in the war..amazing ne?

[icie]

The War is over.

[Mystical Saria]

Originally posted by icie
The War is over.

What does the war being over, have to do with Japan's censorship laws? Chieri was saying that Japanese don't want ordinary jap ppl to know the truth about what happeded in the war. Re-read her post!

[Mystical Saria]

Originally posted by chieri_asuka
oh yeah well let's say both and it makes one good anime a laughable thing in western markets. just lok at what they did to CCS and BSSM! so many cuts and sometimes whole episodes cutout, like up to 8 from a season in BSSM. I am talking about American censorship, they are umm srticter then Japanese on terms of anime.

Chieri,


BTW, what's BSSM? Sorry don't know the show? :confused:

[icie]

its stupid to drag up the war issue again. Some japanese are very sensitive to this.

[chieri_asuka]

too bad for them, they can't always run away from the truth or even some of the truth. Why shouldn't have australian you know not learn about mistakes allies made? well it's the truth even government can not hide all the truth some will leak out one day so might well as tell them. that's why there was huge uproar in Asian when the prime minister went paid respect to people whom allies called 'war criminals' for mass murders etc. I mean not many Japanese people know what horrific things these military people did during the war. Older generations do but it's their high pride that more then hald of them can not admit it. okay let' stop talking about it, only thing that would appease the anger is when the emperor actually does a public apology and change the bloody history text books, so the japanese people can open there eyes to the truth they never knew. I mean this Japanese author said once that, if Japanese don't learn the truth about the history(the author is around 60's) their future might well as be doomed in terms of international relationships etc.

okay we must stop this >.< topic, even I hate to talk about it and make it into a fight.

Chieri,

BSSM:Bishoujo Senshi Sailor Moon(the actually title)

[tamaritha]

There is another censorship - cultural history.:rolleyes:

Ok, back on topic:

Yes, CCS, Cardcaptors, Cardcaptor, whatever branch it falls into.

It is basically about a dysfunctional 10-yr-old.

dysfinctinal 10-yr-olds are not suitable for children OR adults.

[icie]

hoeeeeh????! Sakura is not dysfunctional!!!!



but seriously, the only reason I brought this up was because nothing will change and because of the uncertainty. In fact, how would you know that the things YOUR textbooks tell you are true, and not some propaganda made up by the allies to say that they were not as cruel as the Japanese? You never know. But I agree. Close that skein of thought...

[Ronin Aquila]

Sakura-Chan is not so much dysfuntional as that she comes from a broken family.

However, unlike most broken families out there, the Kinomotos still manage to stay together and love each other. Therefore Sakura-Chan, although scared of ghosts, is a kind, sweet, caring, responsible and happy girl. More than can be said about most American under 10's.

Perhaps that's why the American's edit everyone in CCS to become such a$$holes; for they think that everyone is a disillusioned cynic, and would vomit in anger and resentment at how sweet Sakura-Chan's life is. Therefore, give her a rapper's attitude, a gangsta's foul mouth; and snap, crackle and pop, Sakura is now a mean spirited brat whom American kids can find normal.

Take Care, Brother's And Sisters. :(

[Dryden-san]

I'm not sure I agree with either assesment. Dysfunctional how? Broken how? I imagine there are many single parent familys out there who would resent being classified as 'broken' or 'dysfunctional.'

[chieri_asuka]

O.o...Sakura dysfunctional? urkk...for me it's normal when your mother is deceased? ne?to act like that! anyways Cultural difference makes the difference..I mean think about it...every country have different laws, that tells us exactly that we aren't all same in every aspect.it's normal in Japan to trying to please your parents in every effort that concerns the family.that's normal in my country too.

psst...the war thing my parents and my grand parents experienced first hand, saw it with their own eyes, experienced the cruelty and poverty during first half 20th century. that's only because australia and american never had or saw their home being totally destroyed living in what looks like, post apocalyptic world, with no runing water,no much medicine, not much jobs,not even a stable government to help their own people.does that justify why western people can not understand the heartache in Mainland China and Korea?.

Chieri,

[Ronin Aquila]

American families therefore never learnt the value of staying together and loving each other more, :( because they never historically had the need to do so compared to hardened nations like Japan and Taiwan. :)

[Kimino_Girl]

I don't think Sakura's family is Disfunctional of Broken! it's sad that they dont use it to teach americans that they can behave like that. She helps out doing chores and cooking, these should be positive things to reinforce into the youth of the world.

[Ronin Aquila]

Well, "broken" in the context that they have lost a mother figure. But as for togetherness, no family out there is closer to each other than they are.

[tamaritha]

Originally posted by icie
hoeeeeh????! Sakura is not dysfunctional!!!!

You'd think she was dysfunctional too if you weren't used to seeing 10-yr-olds going about breaking up other people's family engagements and generally acting as she knew all that stuff about love etc. I KNOW I wasn't like that at her age! I was too busy studyng the language and avoiding the bullies who bullied me because i "couldn't speak."

but seriously, the only reason I brought this up was because nothing will change and because of the uncertainty. In fact, how would you know that the things YOUR textbooks tell you are true, and not some propaganda made up by the allies to say that they were not as cruel as the Japanese? You never know. But I agree. Close that skein of thought...

...How? Historical evidence, in which they compare the flow of culture in other countries, and their records regarding our country.
In fact, Sth Korea has had ENOUGH of Japanese propaganda about how the Koreans talk about doing nothing and take sides upon it throughout history, and we're still TRYING to get rid of the damn thing! Also, us Koreans had our own spoken and written language, so we MUST have kept records before the Japanese invaded, AND during the invasion, okay????
And plus, what makes you think us Koreans were barbarians for some 5 000 years since the beginning of the first country in Korea? WE were the ones that handed most of the culture to Japan thank you! I believe this not because of the textbooks, but also by a cose examination of relics and art, and also the fact that Chinese historical "log books" kept details of how Korea was developing into a nation and the changes in dynasty etc/.

[icie]

I never said koreans were barbarians. I come from Singapore myself, which bore a great burden under the Japanese. Many people (Chinese in particular) suffered a lot of cruelty. But I think that we should not bear grudges from a previous generation and make the present generation pay for it (by seemingly blaming it on the general "the Japanese"). It is a different world.

And come on...CCS is an Anime! You don't expect normal stuff in anime. It just adds to the fun.

[John Faulkner]

Yikes!
Maybe you lot are taking CCS out of context!I would think that CCS has no connection with war whatsoever-it's about a girl on a fun quest...with the odd dangerous moment...Sakura's mum is dead certainly,and that serves to make Sakura's life more difficult,but doesn't automatically make her family dysfunctional.

And I don't know much about the war,but from what I've heard both the allies and the Japanese were cruel-hey it was a war,people do cruel things in a war.Anyway it's history.

[Ronin Aquila]

CCS is escapism of the most gentle and healthy type; in that it shows what the world can be, but unforunately is not, if there is just a little bit more love amongst your fellow human beings.

Yes, reality is ugly, but that does not mean that our media has to rot along with it.

[John Faulkner]

escapism yeah,and entertainment too.

[Ronin Aquila]

A word of warning to the reader of this thread. I wholeheartedly believe in Sakura-Chan's merits, and aspire to be like her, what I am about to say is an exorcism of years of pent up rage and self loathing that can only be release healthily through writing. If I did not write the following, I would have gone on a killing spree by now. Feel free to skip this post if you wish to continue living your happy and normal lives. :(

You have been warned. :(

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Sakura-Chan is the definition of the ideal human being.

First off, innocence dies far too quickly in our modern world. Therefore an individual who maintains such an optimistic view of life unclouded by cynicism is a rare and to be treasured.

Secondly, in an age where individualism is stressed so much that youth after youth are becoming egotistical opportunists who step on others to get higher in life, Sakura-Chan shows the virtue of being considerated and caring towards your fellow human being.

Thirdly, (and I know I will get flamed for telling this truth ), in the age of "political correctness" all the world's sorrows are blamed on men and adolescent males. Boys are hence taught to grow up hating themselves for who they are, courtesy of the blood drinking monsters that are feminists.

It is therefore futile and unmasculine to be kind and male, for feminists have made sure that it is an oxymoron term.

Sakura-Chan, being kind, sweet, and a girl, is therefore the perfect human being. For she can truly be kind and sweet and grow up without having to hate herself, and be a happy and functional adult.

We are sick to death of having to get down on our f#cking knees to beg forgiveness for the sins of our great-grand-fathers. We did not chose for the sperms that united with our mother's ovum to have a Y chromosome.

So you feminazis out (you know who you are, Sister dear!!) there had better stop Godd^mn making us hate ourselves so much that many of us wish we were girls instead of who we are.

F^ck!! Why was I born a bloke!! Why the F^ck can't I be a girl and be happy and nice like Sakura-Chan!! :bawling: Why do I have to bear the sins of my father!? :bawling: Why must I be hated!! :bawling: Why can't I be a pretty, sweet, nice and lovable girl, Dammit!! :bawling: :bawling: bawling: :bawling:

Like hell we don't try our damn best to be decent human beings. Well, if being a girl is the only way that one can live a life of grace, virtue and joy, then it looks like we blokes are all doomed to roast when we leave our lives behind.

If only everyone could be like Sakura-Chan, then the world would be such a nicer place. :bawling:

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See what I mean. :(

Take Care, Brothers And Sisters. :(

[chieri_asuka]

heh..what was I doing when I was 10 years old? I helped mum around the house though not heavy tasks, like today but just around the kitchen and the garden. I never asked for much since my parents always gave me everything akid would want. so till today I never bother them to buy me things, I never cried my head off cuz they wouldn't get me things or get pissed off about it. I just get it myself ^_^;;. it just really depends on how you were brought up. and what people around you sees as normal. I mean I still remember being in the computer club back in grade 4 in Sth.Korea before coming to Australia. it was normal for us, you wouldn't expect grade 4 kid in western world to do subjects like chemistry, biology(or natural science), music, PE etc...those levels would equal of what you learn in junior high school in western world(or yr 7 &8) it's world apart in cultures. it's the influence we take from around us that makes the difference.

Chieri,

Right! I must admit..if all kids were like Sakura in the, world would be a better place when they grow up!

:goody:

[John Faulkner]

Well Ronin,you only have to look as far as Ash Ketchum from Pokemon for a kind and caring male-I reckon he shows immense determination (alright no laughing at the back).True though that it'd be great if everyone was as cheerful as Sakura-although your rant would be more suited to the Evangelion forum!

I disagree though that the 'perfect' human being has to be female-gender doesn't really matter in my book.Besides,everyone's definition of perfect is different,one person's meat is another person's poison as they say.

And what do I think of feminists?What they fight for is right but there are more important issues in the world,and they sometimes get their priorities in the wrong order.

And what about Lei?He's quite caring as well,not just Sakura.

[Ronin Aquila]

Sorry.

You see, Sakura-Chan is the type of person I hope and aspire to be, but never truly can become. I often look at myself and cry at what a disgusting excuse of a human being I am compared to her.

What I wrote was an attempt to hopefully exorcise this self loathing. Thus far, letting it out instead of bottling it has somewhat alleviated this grief.

Once again, I apologise for ranting like a psychopath. :(

Take Care, Brothers And Sisters. :(

[tamaritha]

....Your Computer club kinda reminds me of my VART lessons and piano lessons that I had to take Monday~Friday in Korea. I was in Year 2...

...Also, CCS being a normal, sweet girl - I can only see her as self-centred, bitchy and up herself in a BIG way...Plus, what was she doing learning that kinda thing to do with her life in the first place? You cant' just blame your bringing up, that'd mean I can blame my incompetence in English writing skills to the fact that I did not learn it until yr 4, which I cannot blame that because it WAS all up to me in a sense.

[John Faulkner]

Bitchy?......surely you must be joking.

[Ronin Aquila]

Sure.... which means that children born into unhappy families have to feel guilty for swimming too fast as a sperm...don't they? :mad:

[chieri_asuka]

hoe...she is rather cute ^_^...she lives without her mother which is vital thing when are young I tell you...just look at my dad, I mean my grandda is mega rich, but so what? money can't replace a mother's love and care! now sometimes I feel like yelling at him! because my grandma died when he was 3 years old from the civil war. So he was spoilt a little but he was hard working, he hated the burden placed on him because he was the only son. For Sakura being a little spoilt is okay but she does onething most us does not care to do at all these days, to make everyone happy much as you can. I learned it's important thing since my friend died and left that legacy behind...make people happy in anyway you can. And she does at that age. She is not bitchy or selfish. But rather a child who have grown up with out much mother's love or care with burdens placed on her shoulders because of the destiny have chosen her to carry extra weight.

Chieri,

[icie]

Bitchy? Are you sure you watched the correct anime? Maybe, my friend, you watched CardCaptors, instead of CardCaptor Sakura. Now, the Sakura in CC is a -----.

[Mystical Saria]

Originally posted by icie
Bitchy? Are you sure you watched the correct anime? Maybe, my friend, you watched CardCaptors, instead of CardCaptor Sakura. Now, the Sakura in CC is a -----.

No she watched CCS! It was the Korean version she watched. She just has this warped vision (well that's what I think, i don't know about her) about CCS! I've argued with her countlessly but it's not going to change her mind!

Originally posted by Ronin Aquila
Sorry.

You see, Sakura-Chan is the type of person I hope and aspire to be, but never truly can become. I often look at myself and cry at what a disgusting excuse of a human being I am compared to her.

What I wrote was an attempt to hopefully exorcise this self loathing. Thus far, letting it out instead of bottling it has somewhat alleviated this grief.

Once again, I apologise for ranting like a psychopath. :(

Take Care, Brothers And Sisters. :(


How can you such a thing. I may not know you well but I've read many of your posts and from what I've read you're definatly better than a lot of other human beings! Sorry I had to say something. I just hate it when people say those kind of things when its absolutely untrue!

[John Faulkner]

For self loathing look no further than Shinji Ikari from Evangelion.....and come on people LIGHTEN UP.Cardcaptors is supposed to be fun anime,or am I wrong?

[tamaritha]

Originally posted by John Faulkner
For self loathing look no further than Shinji Ikari from Evangelion.....and come on people LIGHTEN UP.Cardcaptors is supposed to be fun anime,or am I wrong?

...fun anime?
Then why did the ratings drop???

[Ronin Aquila]

Originally posted by Mystical Saria


How can you such a thing. I may not know you well but I've read many of your posts and from what I've read you're definatly better than a lot of other human beings! Sorry I had to say something. I just hate it when people say those kind of things when its absolutely untrue!

Thank you, miss. :) :bawling:

[Ronin Aquila]

Originally posted by tamaritha


...fun anime?
Then why did the ratings drop???

Maybe because it was chopped up/badly voice acted so much out of its original intended context that it lost the magic that it originally had. :(

[Ronin Aquila]

Side note:

One of the (many) reasons that I envy Sakura-Chan is that at the tender age of 10 she is capable of handling her mother's passing more maturely than anyone I know.

Me? Three and a half years later, 20 years and counting, I often still cry like a person less than half my age when everything is quiet, and the reality that she's not there anymore comes back.

If only I can be so brave like her. :(

[Black_Knight]

Originally posted by Ronin Aquila
Side note:

One of the (many) reasons that I envy Sakura-Chan is that at the tender age of 10 she is capable of handling her mother's passing more maturely than anyone I know.

If only I can be so brave like her. :(

That's because she was to young to remember much about her mother… And her father is was always able to keep the pace with everything… (When she didn't do much anyway… ;P) But Sakura has a nice core group of friends… Supportive teachers, and her family… And Yuki!:inlove:

[Ronin Aquila]

Good point. :)

[Black_Knight]

Originally posted by Ronin Aquila
Good point. :)

I try my best to bring things into a 3-diementional veiw… ;)

[Ronin Aquila]

Mostly...

[Foxxe]

I don't know why so many people think of Sakura as being dysfunctional. She's the perfect little girl and I'd be proud to be her oniisan or her Otosan or even her uncle. I'm actually quite jealous of Kinomoto-sensei.

[Ronin Aquila]

Having such a huggable daughter/niece who is a constant wellspring of affection is a blessing indeed. :kawaii:

I want a daughter like that too!! :kawaii:

[John Faulkner]

And apart from all Sakura's good qualities,she's a badass cardcaptor too.

[Mystical Saria]

Originally posted by Ronin Aquila


Thank you, miss. :) :bawling:

It's alright! :) Please feel better! :(

Originally posted by Ronin Aquila

Maybe because it was chopped up/badly voice acted so much out of its original intended context that it lost the magic that it originally had.

Once again she's not talking about Cardcaptors! She just hates the show. Beats me why!

Originally posted by John Faulkner
And apart from all Sakura's good qualities,she's a badass cardcaptor too.

hehehe A perfect lovable girl who's a great cardcaptor! What more could you want! :kawaii:

[tamaritha]

Originally posted by Ronin Aquila


Maybe because it was chopped up/badly voice acted so much out of its original intended context that it lost the magic that it originally had. :(

Look if it had bad dubbing then it would have been rejected instantly, alright? We do our own dubbing, so that kinda thing is easy to settle.

You could want more than a "lovable" girl who's also a good cardcaptor - I want some sensibility and a little less cliche.

[John Faulkner]

Tamaritha-do you think Lei is more sensible?

[chieri_asuka]

you mean Li, Sayoran?

no really, he isn't cheerful enough! :D..no I mean he needs brightening up in the core of his personality. Both manga and anime he needs to!

you just gotta love someone like Sakura!I hate to even read any stories that makes someone else a card captor whilst she is still alive, or Li becoming the master etc..I wouldn't mind any story much long as it's Sakura who is the card captor and noone else ^_^...heh...

O.o...
Chieri

[tamaritha]

I actully watched it only because I liked the seiyuu for the characters in the series, not the actual thing.

[Ronin Aquila]

Sakura and Li married and having children (in 7 years, of course :heh:) : A match made in heaven!! :kawaii:

[tamaritha]

...Strangely, that reminds me of a fashion label...
"KATIE DEVENPORT MADE IN HEAVEN"

[Ningen]

Should Cardcaptors be called anime. Yes, but only to take credit away from those bastards at Nelvana. anime style cartoon indeed.:mad:

[WhiteCat65]

I think it is REALLY good it's just the Americans take out the good bits!!!!!!!:mad: :mad2: :redhot: :kaioken: :devil: :splat:

[Eddy]

Originally posted by Ronin Aquila
Sorry.

You see, Sakura-Chan is the type of person I hope and aspire to be, but never truly can become. I often look at myself and cry at what a disgusting excuse of a human being I am compared to her.

. :(

well in the words of Skhomo

[Eddy]

Originally posted by Ronin Aquila
Sorry.

You see, Sakura-Chan is the type of person I hope and aspire to be, but never truly can become. I often look at myself and cry at what a disgusting excuse of a human being I am compared to her.

. :(

well in the words of Skhomo Shiratori from Nadesico..

"Sakura-chan is a wonderfull image of womanhood and perfectness..but..."

"but what?"

"She's just a CARTOON you idiot!":D i don't think you'll ever find a human like Sakura..if you did she#d probarbly just change in a month orso.

[Black_Knight]

Originally posted by Eddy


well in the words of Skhomo Shiratori from Nadesico..

"Sakura-chan is a wonderfull image of womanhood and perfectness..but..."

"but what?"

"She's just a CARTOON you idiot!":D i don't think you'll ever find a human like Sakura..if you did she#d probarbly just change in a month orso.

Owch! That stings!

[Eddy]

yeah..i hope ronin aquilla does'nt top himslef....who is he anyway?

[Ronin Aquila]

Excuse me, dear sir, does "top himself" mean "commit suicide" in British slang? :confused: If not, please enlighten me on its meaning, for I am inproficient in British Slang. :heh:

Or does it just mean that I might write something crazier? :heh:

[Eddy]

"top himself" does mean Commit suicide in Britsih slang, and ohhhhhh..It's Ronin aquilla!:lol:

[Ronin Aquila]

Really would have "topped myself" three years ago if it were not for anime. :) May its glory live forever.

[Eddy]

good for you i really must see if Madison ever said "whatever" in the british version..i could have swoen everyone seemed very polite in the dubbed version i saw.

[Ronin Aquila]

Which once again goes to show that the sole purpose of American (or Americanised) animation is to turn children, and indeed everyone in modern society, into egotistical, rude, bitter, nasty, wisecracking cynics.

[Eddy]

Well i think life promotes taht. why do we have negative emotions?

[heerogf]

Originally posted by Eddy
good for you i really must see if Madison ever said "whatever" in the british version..i could have swoen everyone seemed very polite in the dubbed version i saw.

i have the displeasure of hearing her said that :vomit:

WHAT-EVER~~~~~~~ :smash:

[Sakura san]

I swear I burst out laughing when that Tomoyo-wannabe clone said "whatever!". It sounded so...UnTomoyo-ish. Plus, in the original scene she never said anything when Li walked past her O_o;;. *Wonders if the dubbers had something against Tomoyo*.

[chieri_asuka]

heh...right...but I don't know about british version but in australian one. Tomoyo seems a little too genki O.o...? I mean she was alittle too cheerful for herself then the original one.

*Go Eriol and Sakura* *gets stomped on by a stempede of Eriol+Tomoyo and Sakura and Sayoran fans*


eeepp..

just a little shout from alternate coupling revolution!geez nothing to kill aperson for!

Chieri,

[Ronin Aquila]

The bonds of fate upon a destined couple is more fortified than steel itself. :kawaii:

[Black_Knight]

Well… I still like the arraged marrage… To bad they took that out… (Hey, they still do it in West Virgina :D)

[Eddy]

Is it me or is Mei lin the most desirable girl who ever lived?^^

[Black_Knight]

Originally posted by Eddy
Is it me or is Mei lin the most desirable girl who ever lived?^^

Errr… -.-"


Well as long as you don't have hentai pictures…

[senshi1519]

hehehe!
that is VERY true.
no hentai!!!!! nopey nopey nopey- eek.

[icie]

actually, tomoyo is.


ahhh....

[senshi1519]

ehem..... yer.....

[Ronin Aquila]

I would picture Tomoyo an elegant, slyly charming yet ladylike young woman by the time she is 14, half way between Ryuzaku Umi and Houji Fuu of Magic Knight Rayearth.

[icie]

not "slyly"...she is just hanyaaaan!!!

[Ronin Aquila]

Well, hanging around Meiling has given her a bit of an acidly witty sense of humour (not to mention that God-Awful witch like cackling laugh). :heh:

But yes, she is very schweeeeet!!!:kawaii:

[Eddy]

not oin the dubbed version. She sounded like a lively version of Sakura.

[Ronin Aquila]

And considering Sakura-Chan is already lively to begin with... :heh:

[Eddy]

Mei lin reminds me of a fanciable version of Shampoo from Ranma. Wait a minute..does Mei lin live with Li? in the British version she was laways eating with him and everyone said Li was her boyfriend...even though he seemed a little pissed off with her all the time....argh! what is it with Card captor Sakura? why can't i get it out of my head!.........ok i'm done:lol:

[Ronin Aquila]

Originally posted by Eddy
....argh! what is it with Card captor Sakura? why can't i get it out of my head!.........ok i'm done:lol:

Aw, come on mate, not as if that's unhealthy or anything. :lol:

[Black_Knight]

http://www.plaudersmilies.de/sad/annoyed.gif

[glitch]

Originally posted by Ronin Aquila


Aw, come on mate, not as if that's unhealthy or anything. :lol: lol. Too much of CCS can make your teeth rot :lol:

ok just kidding ;)

[Eddy]

no it's the opposite, i never realised how much i liked CCS until it was cancelled.... it just became a normal routine of getting home from colledge,walking my dogs and then came home to watch it just before i fed the dogs^^ and when it ended the routine was messed up and i really missed the kawainess:D

[Ronin Aquila]

Americanised CCS is not kawaii. It is just a reflection of how mean, cynical and bratty this generation of American Grade schoolers have become.

[Eddy]

I really must find out who dubbed the british version since i really don't remember it being as bad as you make out Aquilla^^

[chieri_asuka]

O.o..australian version was okay just umm I still don't like the voice actors and renaming things to english. they sound at least twice their age with those voice. Only thing I liked was the use of original music?(but different lyrics),opening sequence,getting to episodes in correct order and not skipping any episodes? wait that is still a lot of bonus...then american version. or wait they changed the priginal opening sequence a bit...they put Fujitaka in where Li should have been, >.<! lol~ oh well I am glad madman entertainment is the one distributing it australia!

Chieri,

[Ronin Aquila]

THe mainstream Australian version, is the regrettably dubbed version that is completely deviod of an original Japanese Audio track, along with Yoko Kanno's majestically beautiful musical score. :mad2:

[Black_Knight]

Originally posted by Ronin Aquila
Americanised CCS is not kawaii. It is just a reflection of how mean, cynical and bratty this generation of American Grade schoolers have become.

Tiss' a sad time we live in…

[chieri_asuka]

O.o.. then you never seen the australian one. one that was televised was undoubtly dubbed, but they used original opening music. one on the channel 10 that was. Even madman entertainment confirmed that we are luckier then the american counterparts, because channel ten decided to show scenes that would very questionable under the evil eyes of american censorship laws. I will try to video capture the opening sequence and put it up on the net. :D...that will proove that australian one was different, the first time I saw the american version of opening I nearly chocked because I thought it would be like the australian one but totally different!100% different!>.<

Chieri,

ps..rei-gouki will vouch for at elast the original opening music used in australian one, since he has taped nearly all the eopisodes that was shown in australia.

[EvilDracy]

I used to think of Card Captors as an anime, but after I started buying the Japanese w/subtitles versions, I realized just how screwed it really was. So....no, Card Captors is NOT an anime, only Card Captor Sakura! Hoeee!!

[Foxxe]

I'm glad that I don't have to e exposed to Card Captors. Fortunately, our local dub was more consistent with the original version. Somehow, I feel that the characters were even portrayed to be even more wholesome than the Japanese one(if it is at all possible.)

[Ronin Aquila]

Originally posted by Foxxe
I'm glad that I don't have to e exposed to Card Captors. Fortunately, our local dub was more consistent with the original version. Somehow, I feel that the characters were even portrayed to be even more wholesome than the Japanese one(if it is at all possible.)

Dear Mister Foxxe

La La land is Los Angeles, right? :confused:

If so, wouldn't you guys have the dark and cynical Americanised dub? :confused:

[Black_Knight]

Well did they ever dub the orignal version?

[Eddy]

how many dubbs are there?

[chieri_asuka]

I believe in of 3 different english dubs, one for America,one for UK and one for Australia.

oh aquila there is a place called la la land in one of the anime I read about before O>o..can't remember which anime was but it's vague too, something about someone falling into la la land(or somethingof similar term) and can never come out again if they choose it. if that's what foxxe means.


*sigh* can't wait till I get to my uni so I can video capture it!


Chieri,

[Ronin Aquila]

And yes, in Australia, romantic love is a taboo in so-called "children's" programmes too. And CCS to conservative Australians, being animation, is no acception to this evil rule. Hence, Aussie kids will never see how sweet the show can truly be unless they pay a visit to your friendly neighbourhood Animezone. :(

[Black_Knight]

Originally posted by chieri_asuka
I believe in of 3 different english dubs, one for America,one for UK and one for Australia.



Would that be a dub of the orignal, or the censored version?

[Ronin Aquila]

Censored or otherwise, they still took out the wonderful original music, those bastards!! :mad2:

[cloakactive]

Originally posted by Ronin Aquila
Censored or otherwise, they still took out the wonderful original music, those bastards!! :mad2:

Why on earth would you take the music out? The music is needed to complete the show. It makes it whole... sorta like seeing it in its originality.

[Ronin Aquila]

Not only did they take out the original music, they replaced it with a score that sounds like its hentai music played on a 20 year old synthesiser by a chimpanzee smoking marujuana. :mad2: :mad2:

[Black_Knight]

Originally posted by Ronin Aquila
Not only did they take out the original music, they replaced it with a score that sounds like its hentai music played on a 20 year old synthesiser by a chimpanzee smoking marujuana. :mad2: :mad2:

Well don't go knocking on the instramental theme of "Carcaptors" That is always a welcom addition to my collection…

[Ronin Aquila]

What of Yoko Kano's majestically epic yet whimsically heartwarming original score? Surely you don't presume that synthesiser noise is superior to that.

Wait, let me rephrase what I proclaimed of the American score:

"Played on a broken synthesiser by a stoned chimpanzee so busy mastrubating to Legend of the Overfiend that it only has one hand to ruin the already atrocious scroe."

Off the record, this comment is not an attack against you, but the evil American composers. No hard feelings against you whatsoever. :)

[Eddy]

ohhh cute ronin's been watching legend of the overfiend^^

[Black_Knight]

Originally posted by Eddy
ohhh cute ronin's been watching legend of the overfiend^^

I heard that has some really… Er… How to put it lightly…… Oh I can't say it lightly…

PERVERT!

[suzaku]

...

[Ronin Aquila]

Oh for crying out loud I said the Chimpanzee who composed the dreadful American music of Cardcaptors watched that. :heh:

And no, I have not seen it. Most anime fans would know its contents from reputation alone, and hence my use of it in the analogy to emphasise how clumsily the music was done because of distractions. :heh:

[chieri_asuka]

well....I guess Australians are lucky to even hear the original music being used in the Australian version of card captors for opening. Only I wished they had better english lyrics to go with it.I will check the lyrics once I get back to uni when it starts again in march.I couldn't be bothered travelling 2 hours to and 2 hours back just for that. oh the animezone is only 20 minutes fromwhere I live, soit doesn't give a trouble when ever I want to visit.

*huggles her Clow cards dearly*

I love them! and my EVA metal card collection.

chieri,

[Ronin Aquila]

And I love my Kirika-Chan (From Noir) Pencil Board. :kawaii:

[Black_Knight]

Stop the spamming… Some of the musuc is good… Some of it is bad…

But if a monkey composed this… We gotta get him for another gig! :D

[Eddy]

Originally posted by Ronin Aquila
Oh for crying out loud I said the Chimpanzee who composed the dreadful American music of Cardcaptors watched that. :heh:

And no, I have not seen it. Most anime fans would know its contents from reputation alone, and hence my use of it in the analogy to emphasise how clumsily the music was done because of distractions. :heh:

well i have the entire Overfiend trilogy:heh:

who is this chimpanzee anyway?

[Eddy]

come on ronin i really wanna hear more about this musical chimpanzee!:lol:

i just have this image of a chimpanzee playing a broken symphaisser while watching legend of the overfiend and it makes me crack up during college lectures..everyone just stares at me funny^^

[Ronin Aquila]

Okay, just for fun... :kawaii:

This chimp is the illigitimate son of the feminazi b!tch sister who ruined 2 thirds of my adolescent life.

[Eddy]

how did he get employed? did a guy get fired or did the chimp have to go through an interview..why did they let him watch legend of the overfiend anyway?...*thinks of the chimp image playing on tyhe sympahsiser while stoned*...humhahahahh!:D

[Ronin Aquila]

Maybe they needed "genetic samples" to see if they can breed an army of cheap labor that you only need to literally pay peanuts in wages with. :lol:

[suzaku]

:lol:

[Ronin Aquila]

My sometimes I scare myself... sometimes... :D

[Eddy]

Wow..he actually did a good job for a chimp being stoned and wartching legend of the overfiend with a broken synthesiser..i wonder if he composed the star wars music aswell? Do you have the chimps number Ronin?:lol:

[suzaku]

:lol:

[Ronin Aquila]

Originally posted by Eddy
Wow..he actually did a good job for a chimp being stoned and wartching legend of the overfiend with a broken synthesiser..i wonder if he composed the star wars music aswell? Do you have the chimps number Ronin?:lol:

Well... I would give you the number... If only it was not busy with all the women that he regularly impregnates. :heh:

[Eddy]

That ape should get his own thread:lol:

man that apes really made my week:)

[Ronin Aquila]

Glad to see I've made a positive difference in someone else's life. :D

[suzaku]

you said that right...:D

[Eddy]

hmmm does the ape have a name?:D

[Ronin Aquila]

Hmm, I think the Chimpanzee's name is something in the lines of "I hate the Japs so I must destroy anime's reputation in the wes..."

OOPS.

I mean, the Chimpanzee's name is "The Mojo-nator." :D

Let's start a new thread for the chimp before this thread gets shut off, shall we? :heh:

[Eddy]

as long as you make it ronin..i know the mods will be on to me saying "oh the ape has nothing to do wih CCS therefore you die!"

or something like that^^

[Ronin Aquila]

Righty Oh, back on topic.

Aside from the atrocious music, the voices and dialogue are completely out of character. God Dammit, Sakura-Chan is not a goddamn brat!! :mad2:

[Eddy]

who did the british version then?

*notices the chim walking away sadly, his carreer in shtters*;)

[Ronin Aquila]

Sorry, Mojo-Nator.

I'm not sure who did the British version, but if I ever catch him I will shove him through a one way ride through a wood chipper. :mad2:

[Eddy]

actually i thought Sakura sounded quite un-brat like in the british version..she certainly was'nt whiny or stupid. Everyone just seeemd to have light-harted voices^^

and Tori and Tamaya seemed to have like 8 different jobs all working together:eek:

[Ronin Aquila]

Okay, here's Mojo-Nator's new home:

http://animeboards.com/showthread.php?s=&threadid=35332

By the way, the original Sakura-Chan is a sweet, if insecure, yet ultimately heroic girl. :D

[GNDM2000]

---

[suzaku]

pls. no violence...

[Torkm]

GNDM2000

Please don't post crap like that.

If you want to rant, go do it in the Test Forum.

[GNDM2000]

SOMEONE EDITED MY POST ARRRRGGGGGGGHHHHHHHHHHHHH
IM GONNA KILL WHO EVER DONE THAT!!!!

[GNDM2000]

(HEY YOUR AVATAR SUCKS, WHO PLAYS KLONA 2? NO ONE! YOUR AVATAR IS OFF THE CRAPIEST GAME IN THE WORLD WITH THE MOST ---- GAMEPLAY IN THE WORLD)
someone edited this post because this board is s**t!!! no one lets you post without your post being edited

[Ronin Aquila]

Only when you swear as much as I use to, young man. ;)

[GNDM2000]

:sweatdrop young man? (thats the last time i take that crap)

[suzaku]

it's illegal to use such things here at AB...

[Ronin Aquila]

A thousand pardons. I thought that to assume an individual to be of elderly age would be of the utmost rudeness. Hence my addressing you as "young man." :D

[Eddy]

let's all act in a manner which would make Sakura proud *keeps an eye o the british version incase Madison sais "whatever"*

[Ronin Aquila]

Must... gut... voice.... caster .... of .... Madison.... :mad: :evil: :D

[Eddy]

she sounds just about ready to pounce in the british version...i can still pray^^

[Ronin Aquila]

She, my friend?

Hardly. :D

[GNDM2000]

madison/tomoyo is a boy (i dont wanna talk about it)

[icie]

what's the problem?? obviously she is a girl! Despite loving Sakura-chan (CCS is what I am talking about), she is still a girl...if that was what you meant (liking Sakura, I mean, as in the orientation of Tomoyo), many people (including me) will be pretty offended. Clarify before the flames pour in.

Heck, say anything you want about Madison. But don't start on Tomoyo.

[Ronin Aquila]

Madison is the evil doppleganger. :mad2: Tomoyo is the real angel. :kawaii:

[suzaku]

must...kill...Madison

*pulls out a katana*

[EbbieMay]

Okaybie, I joined this thread late and have absolutely no clue where we stand, so I'll just throw in my two cents and back away slowly. . .

Yes, Cardcaptors is an anime. *dodges flying objects* Hear me out, please! It was an original animation done in Japan, correct? Sure, the American producers went slap-dash-delete happy on the editing, but that still doesn't make it less of an anime.

What it is, however, is *NOT* Card Captor Sakura. And I'm not talking about the crappy music or voice acting. The problem in CC is what they *changed*. The elements that was created in the minds of the original production team was severely altered into something of their own. Anyone who is familiar with CLAMP would know that the CC is no where near their style. CC and CCS are no way similar, the Sakura in CC is nothing like the Sakura in CCS, same with all the other characters. Think of it as different shades of blue. Sure, aqua and navy are *blue* but they aren't the same. One has more of this, the other lacks that. Some like navy over the aqua, but when all is said and done, isn't it still blue? Now, replace blue with anime and the acronyms with colors. . . er, I'm confusing myself at 2am, but do you get what I'm saying?

[suzaku]

in short americanizing...

[EbbieMay]

Yesh. . .I do get wordy sometimes :o

I can only think of a handful of Americanized anime that didn't compromise the original series.

[suzaku]

^_^

daijoubu

at least i understood what you meant :)

[Black_Knight]

Well I find it funny that on regular TV and Basic cable, the Japanese have a lot more items that people in the States would deem inaproprate… While in the video market and premium channels, it is the Japanese that have tighter restictions…

Rather funny side note…

[EbbieMay]

Very, very interesting indeed! Thanks for zee side note.

:brain shutting down: :nighty:

[Black_Knight]

:fftopic:

We should get make on track… CC's cool music, animation, storyline… But, bad editing…

[EbbieMay]

Quite right! Shall I continue my petition to get my boss to make CCS available to rent, even if it is subtitled? He's dyslexic and abhors the stuff, so he gets the dub only to rent (which means CC for the renting public) and special orders the subs for everyone else. But I'm poor and cheap so I'd rather rent anime from my job than order it. And no, I do not work at Blockbuster. ;) I've done it before, and I might do it again (but he is SO stubborn, it took hell getting Weiss) And, if I can't get him to cave, at least I'll get him to sell the manga. :D

But trying to stay on topic. . . should I force myself to rent the first CC volume to compare, or should I just leave it well alone?

[glitch]

Originally posted by Ronin Aquila
Madison is the evil doppleganger. :mad2: Tomoyo is the real angel. :kawaii: lol! *imagines Madison sprouting horns on her head* :devil: :lol:

[suzaku]

Originally posted by EbbieMay
Quite right! Shall I continue my petition to get my boss to make CCS available to rent, even if it is subtitled? He's dyslexic and abhors the stuff, so he gets the dub only to rent (which means CC for the renting public) and special orders the subs for everyone else. But I'm poor and cheap so I'd rather rent anime from my job than order it. And no, I do not work at Blockbuster. ;) I've done it before, and I might do it again (but he is SO stubborn, it took hell getting Weiss) And, if I can't get him to cave, at least I'll get him to sell the manga. :D

But trying to stay on topic. . . should I force myself to rent the first CC volume to compare, or should I just leave it well alone?

i suggest leaving it alone...

[Black_Knight]

Originally posted by glitch
lol! *imagines Madison sprouting horns on her head* :devil: :lol:

*thinks about it* :dot:


Oh good God…

[suzaku]

Originally posted by glitch
lol! *imagines Madison sprouting horns on her head* :devil: :lol:

Dear Lord...pls. don't make Madison more demonic, she's evil and demonic already :D

[Black_Knight]

Originally posted by suzaku


Dear Lord...pls. don't make Madison more demonic, she's evil and demonic already :D

She is?

[suzaku]

:lol::lol::lol:

[Ronin Aquila]

Madison is a foul Incubus that took possession of our Dear-Tomoyo_Chan's body, and therefore must be exorcised. ;)

[jinshil]

:lol:

[Ronin Aquila]

Burnt!! shredded!! Have acid poured on for good measure!! :kawaii:

4400th post. :kawaii:

[Ayanamipuff]

Hmm... good idea.....:D

MWAHAHAHAHA!!!!!!

[suzaku]

Originally posted by Ronin Aquila
Madison is a foul Incubus that took possession of our Dear-Tomoyo_Chan's body, and therefore must be exorcised. ;)

:lol:

do you need a sealing tag??? :p

[Ronin Aquila]

No. Such is the extent of her corrupting nature that not only do you need to bury the remains on consecrated ground...

... you need to condemn it afterwards so no poor fool can rot his foot stepping on it. :p

[Ayanamipuff]

Hmmm.... She's more evil than I thought...

[Black_Knight]

I think you have a Madison complex Ronin Aquila… :D ;)

[Ronin Aquila]

No, my complex is the "Kirika-Chan Complex." :kawaii:

[Icantpickascreename]

Originally posted by Black_Knight
This is American Censorship at it's best… Mixing the episodes, Gender bending… Crushing the love… The relations being cut… Disapperances of some Charas… And so other bad things I can't think of…


So… CardCaptors… Does it deserve the name of Anime?

No, no, no....People call it a cartoon and it will be a cartoon....anime is basically another word for cartoon.

[Ronin Aquila]

Do remember that in Japan Anime is regarded as a medium , not a simple genre.

Americans, however, classify it as a genre for children only , and will move heaven and earth to ensure that it stays that way. ;)

[Black_Knight]

Originally posted by Ronin Aquila
No, my complex is the "Kirika-Chan Complex." :kawaii:


:goof:

[Ronin Aquila]

Originally posted by Black_Knight



:goof:

But in the nicest way possible, sir. I love her as the little sister I never had. :kawaii:

[Schizm]

Oh dear. Another weirdo who loves 2-dimensional, fictional characters :(

[Ronin Aquila]

Hey it's love, what's wrong with that? :kawaii:

[Schizm]

Promise me that when you go to Manifest dressed as a little schoolgirl, you wont try to have sexual relations with yourself......

Wait, do. Then you wont be able to breed.

[Ronin Aquila]

Not quite. But I would try to do so with a cosplayer who is a cute girl, in appearance and anatomy. :D

[Black_Knight]

Originally posted by Schizm
Promise me that when you go to Manifest dressed as a little schoolgirl, you wont try to have sexual relations with yourself......

Wait, do. Then you wont be able to breed.

What happens if Ronin is a transexual? :lol:

[Ronin Aquila]

You wish. :D

[Schizm]

Originally posted by Ronin Aquila
Not quite. But I would try to do so with a cosplayer who is a cute girl, in appearance and anatomy. :D

To quote you:

'You wish'

:)

[Ronin Aquila]

Have I met you sir, and vice versa, to merit that assumption without prior evidence? ;)

[Schizm]

If you are anything like you describe yourself to be and behave like here, you haven't a chance in Hell. Unless of course, she's blind, drugged or desperate :lol:

[Ronin Aquila]

I expel all the rage and ugliness into an ocean of electrical information to leave my flesh all the more normal for real life interaction. ;)

[Schizm]

Which real-life interactions are these? Those with 'Christians' at the train station? Or those where you dress up a girl, and go looking for dates?




:lol:

[Ronin Aquila]

No, real life as in meeting my mates at University, having lunch with them, playing tennis, sharing amusing non hate driven dialogue and life stories and practicing Karate together.

And of course going to movies with my sweet girlfriend. :kawaii:

All the while concealing my ugly rage and my devotion to Anime, thank you very much. ;)

[Schizm]

So, how does your sweet 'girlfriend' react to your crossdressing and desire to do dirty things to a young girl in a school uniform?

[Ronin Aquila]

As I said, she does not know I'm an anime fan or any . ;)

Plus, yes, my idea on the age of consensual sex may be a bit younger than the sexually repressed ones of White America (mine being that of 15 and using contraceptives). But it does not necessarily mean that she has to be a schoolgirl, darn it. ;)

Also, is there something we can solve in Private messages that does not necessarily have to be solved here out in the open? ;)

[ClefFSChan]

It defenitly does not need to be considered an anime. They slaughtered our beloved CCS....poor Syaoran....everyone calling him by his last name....and Tomoyo too....sounding like a valley girl that has the same (stupid voice off of X-Men evolution, not that I watch that show, ick!) And Sakura. I mean, what are they trying to do, make her a lesbian by not making her like Yukito or Syaoran? eh?and I hate the way they pronounce it...gives meh the shivers....and the worst.....omg, Kerochan @.@ I hate his dubbed voice:mad:

[Icantpickascreename]

Remember the dub's adaptation of Sakura...SAAAAAkura

OMG Kero-chan's voice scared the crappers out of me! He sounds like a TAXI CAB DRIVER!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

AHHHHHHH ::screams in a pillow:: :kaioken:

[Ronin Aquila]

Originally posted by Icantpickascreename
Remember the dub's adaptation of Sakura...SAAAAAkura

OMG Kero-chan's voice scared the crappers out of me! He sounds like a TAXI CAB DRIVER!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

AHHHHHHH ::screams in a pillow:: :kaioken:

Yeah, one of those sleazy dope dealing ones in the process of being orally pleasured. ;)

[Icantpickascreename]

OMG, I wouldn't go that far...Cardcaptors has been hacked, but so what!? Nelvana wont change it no matter how many times you flame the site...Just deal with it...

[black_angel]

CCS= spawn of the gods

CC= spawn of the plauge lord.....

[Ronin Aquila]

Plague lord's excrement might be more fitting. ;)

[Icantpickascreename]

I'd just call it the trots...

[Ronin Aquila]

Trots? A slang term for animal dung, I presume? :D

[Icantpickascreename]

Originally posted by Ronin Aquila
Trots? A slang term for animal dung, I presume? :D

Yes, CC is the trots of the wannabee animes. Well not really, there are worse. But anyway, it is the trots!

[Ronin Aquila]

Let's forcefeed the censors with their trots and then take them for a swim in a nice snug pair of concrete boots, shall we? :kawaii:

[Icantpickascreename]

Okies :D The Trots are going to feel very squishy though.

[Ronin Aquila]

Well, they will be the ground up version of the tapes of CC, so they might be solid enough.

Not that it makes the trots any less filthy, mind you. :D

[Icantpickascreename]

OH CC, what have you done to the adorable anime!

[Ronin Aquila]

Far too much. :mad: :mad2: :ssj:

[Icantpickascreename]

NELVANA WILL PAY!!!! Or so I will not seek revenge...Did that 2 years ago! :littledev

[Ronin Aquila]

How, exactly? ;)

[Icantpickascreename]

Bunch of flames. About 54 of my friends flamed the sight because I forced them too. Nelvana was a little freaked out, but we took care of it. hehehe

[Ronin Aquila]

It ain't over until the censor who butchered Card Captor Sakura weeps over his daughter's disembodied head that hangs from his porch on a cold November afternoon. :kawaii:

[Black_Knight]

Originally posted by Ronin Aquila
It ain't over until the censor who butchered Card Captor Sakura weeps over his daughter's disembodied head that hangs from his porch on a cold November afternoon. :kawaii:

You are sadist… I got nothing against that…

But let us try to keep on topic…

[Icantpickascreename]

Actually I think we are because we're talking about how Cardcaptors sucks. Isn't that on topic perse? :D Anyway, Cardcaptors will always be Cardcaptors and it will never be a true anime...

[Ronin Aquila]

Originally posted by Black_Knight


You are sadist… I got nothing against that…

But let us try to keep on topic…

Just full of anger and hatred, thank you. :kawaii:

[Icantpickascreename]

We all know that you have that rage building inside.

[Ronin Aquila]

I'll just write it out healthily as opposed to Columbining it out. ;)

[Icantpickascreename]

We all know your nice Ronin.

[Ronin Aquila]

Thank you.

But that's after the anger is let out. :kawaii:

[Icantpickascreename]

Let the anger flow like Tai Chi about Cardcaptors.

[Ronin Aquila]

Let the anger flow... hmm...

That sounds like an awful lot like the Form 4 Lightsabre Stance used by Anakin Skywalker... :p

[Icantpickascreename]

Cardcaptors!!!!!!! THE SECRET OF THE CLOWWWWWW IS ALL A MYST-OOOORIE!

[Ronin Aquila]

So that's what the crappy US title song sounds like. :ssj:

[Icantpickascreename]

I actually prefere this song over the original song...:rolleyes: The Japanese song makes me cringe. The battle music is good though!

[Spike 558]

Icantpickascreename said:
I actually prefere this song over the original song... The Japanese song makes me cringe.


You're kidding right?
The Card Captors theme is horrendous!!!! :kaioken:
I'm feeling sick just thinking about it!!!! :vomit:

Okay, one thing, in my opinon, that makes CCS is it's charm. It is an absoultely delightful anime - certainly a departure from the people who made the grim X. Thus I thought it was one of the most entertaining anime I had ever seen.

But then came CC. The theme song was dreadful!
"...Watch me fly!!!!" :ssj:
The music was completely out of sync with the images and the singer couldn't sing to save her life!
Comapred to the delight of CCS, CC is pretty much a broken mirror: It won't ever look the same again, no matter what you do.

Following this hell, I went and saw the 2nd CCS mvie. And after the atrocity that was CC, seeing said movie (fansubbed of course) was like welcoming back an old friend. :kawaii:
And then you realise the friend owes you money :lol:

[suzaku]

Originally posted by Icantpickascreename
Cardcaptors!!!!!!! THE SECRET OF THE CLOWWWWWW IS ALL A MYST-OOOORIE!

everytime i hear that song...i want to kill the ppl who made that baka song especially the executives of Nelbaka (Nelvana)

[Icantpickascreename]

Originally posted by Spike 558


You're kidding right?
The Card Captors theme is horrendous!!!! :kaioken:
I'm feeling sick just thinking about it!!!! :vomit:

Okay, one thing, in my opinon, that makes CCS is it's charm. It is an absoultely delightful anime - certainly a departure from the people who made the grim X. Thus I thought it was one of the most entertaining anime I had ever seen.

But then came CC. The theme song was dreadful!
"...Watch me fly!!!!" :ssj:
The music was completely out of sync with the images and the singer couldn't sing to save her life!
Comapred to the delight of CCS, CC is pretty much a broken mirror: It won't ever look the same again, no matter what you do.

Following this hell, I went and saw the 2nd CCS mvie. And after the atrocity that was CC, seeing said movie (fansubbed of course) was like welcoming back an old friend. :kawaii:
And then you realise the friend owes you money :lol:

Somebody is really using their rage. Why don't you use that to flame Nelvana...I bet they'd enjoy the extra stuff! Anyway Cardcaptors will never be Cardcaptor Sakura.

[Ronin Aquila]

He probably already has. ;)

[Icantpickascreename]

Originally posted by Ronin Aquila
He probably already has. ;)

Who wouldn't? Flaming Nelvana actually relieves the pain and burden that has been caused. It's sort of like Tai-Chi, but with a lot more agressive force!

[Spike 558]

Is it any use flaming Nelvana? I assuming that they're probably buried under mountains of complaints!

But anyho, the atrocity that was the CC dub most not forgotten.
Otherwise we are doomed to repeat the tragedy.
(Now there's a scary thought......)

[Icantpickascreename]

Oh, believe me, it's easy to forget CC...

[Black_Knight]

Originally posted by Spike 558


You're kidding right?
The Card Captors theme is horrendous!!!! :kaioken:
I'm feeling sick just thinking about it!!!! :vomit:


I liked the Card Captors theme… I'd ask for a link to it… But I'm not that stupid…

[Icantpickascreename]

Yes, you really don't want to do that. Or the moderators might give you a warning. Cardcaptors!

[kaichi]

It isn't as good as some I've seen, but it was good enough for me to put Li Showron as my amie. Come on, its better than Pok-E-Mon.

[Spike 558]

Anything is better then Pokemon!

Okay, maybe I shouldn't be bagging an anime designed for children but I'm just being biased because CCS is an anime that has enough appeal for both children and adults!
(Anyone whose seen Totoro will know what I mean)

....Unlike the tragedy that was CC.......
Okay so maybe kids would like it, but the charm that the orignal had on adults (like myself) is gone....:(

[Ronin Aquila]

Cardcaptor Sakura was a warm, gentle, yet multilayered and mature analysis of happiness and love in a society made of broken families. :kawaii:

Cardcaptors, on the other hand, did none of the above. :(

[BlueSeedFan]

Kaichi wrote:
It isn't as good as some I've seen, but it was good enough for me to put Li Showron as my amie. Come on, its better than Pok-E-Mon.
Shoot, ANYTHING is better tha Pokemon and CC combined. Though I mUST admit I liked CC at first but as I learned more about how they were butchering it(Think of what they'll do to Sailor Moon Sailor Stars when it's dubbed......)I started to slowly hate it, and now I enjoy the anime that is CCS, though the CC movie is decent since it is UN-cut and they follow CLOSELY to the original idea, Julian/Touya teased Sakura in both versions about how she can't wear shoes on the plane, talk about mean.......

[Ronin Aquila]

What of the heartbreakingly beautiful original music? I bet its replaced by some soul-less, dark and nasty electronic crap just like the TV series was. :(

[BlueSeedFan]

The music OK, but not really great. Plus the credits on the dvd were so small you couldn't read them.

[Sara MacD]

I gotta get a job... maybe then I can hear the series the way it was meant to be heard.

[BlueSeedFan]

Well.......you could always rent CCS on VHS or DVD. ^_^

[Ronin Aquila]

Or worse comes to worst, there is always the wonderful world of streamload download. :kawaii:

[Ayanamipuff]

Originally posted by BlueSeedFan
Plus the credits on the dvd were so small you couldn't read them.

That's because Nelvana didn't want you to know its Japanese...



Nelvana. I promise you.... REVENGE!!!

[BlueSeedFan]

Nelvana=Baka in my book.

[Black_Knight]

How just e-mail them your complaints…

[Black_Knight]

How just e-mail them your complaints…

[Ronin Aquila]

Originally posted by Ayanamipuff


That's because Nelvana didn't want you to know its Japanese...



Nelvana. I promise you.... REVENGE!!!

And disembowlement!! :kawaii:

[cloakactive]

Too much chit chat and one line comments and not enough actual discusion. If this doesn't change, this thread gets closed. :dodgy:

[Black_Knight]

Originally posted by cloakactive
Too much chit chat and one line comments and not enough actual discusion. If this doesn't change, this thread gets closed. :dodgy:


You heard the man! I had one thread closed because of this type of thing…_So back on topic…

I belive that even though it is highly changed… CarCaptors is an American Anime…

[Sara MacD]

I believe Card Captor Sakura is an anime. Who wouldn't?

I mean, it's from Japan and all, and its got the drawing style, right?

[Ayanamipuff]

Well, Card Captor Sakura is anime, but Cardcaptors is just the hollow remains of Americanization. Technically speaking, anime, although changed to cater more to Americans.

[Icantpickascreename]

Originally posted by Black_Knight



You heard the man! I had one thread closed because of this type of thing…_So back on topic…

I belive that even though it is highly changed… CarCaptors is an American Anime…

It still can't. It can be considered "american dubbed," but it will always be Japanese Styled.

[Ronin Aquila]

Originally posted by Ayanamipuff
Well, Card Captor Sakura is anime, but Cardcaptors is just the hollow remains of Americanization. Technically speaking, anime, although changed to cater more to Americans.

But a mere hollow husk, a corpse, and not even true anime at its cold capitalistic heart. ;)

[Ayanamipuff]

Yes, I think your right...

[Ronin Aquila]

Aren't I always? ;)

[Ayanamipuff]

Actually I don't know, I only talk to you about CCS. Prolly.

[Icantpickascreename]

Cardcaptors will never be an anime, but it will always be a Japanese Animation Cartoon. A little bit of an oxymoron.

[Sara MacD]

Okay... so many do not see it as a "true" anime... how 'bout this?

CardCaptors is not an "anime," per se, but simply "Japanimation."

Does that sum it up?

[Ayanamipuff]

Sure, why not? ^-^

[Black_Knight]

Sure, why not…

[icie]

Originally posted by Sara MacD
Okay... so many do not see it as a "true" anime... how 'bout this?

CardCaptors is not an "anime," per se, but simply "Japanimation."

Does that sum it up?

**gag** "Japanimation"? Many anime fans do NOT like this chimeric term.

ie: Japanimation = Extremely simplified term for anime.

Just call cardcaptors a cartoon and be done with it. The "American Dream", eh...?

[BlueSeedFan]

Icie said:
**gag** "Japanimation"? Many anime fans do NOT like this chimeric term.

I agree with you Icie, it is in no form japanimation, it's more like an american cartoon

[Ayanamipuff]

Yeah, I guess that's true too....


i hate this! why am i so wishy-washy? i hate it, i hate it, i hate it!!

[Sara MacD]

If you insist...

...then so be it. Cardcaptors is an American toon.

[BlueSeedFan]

Sara MacD said:
If you insist... ...then so be it. Cardcaptors is an American toon.
Arigato, Sara MacD-san.

[Ronin Aquila]

Here is the equivalent:

Anime: Fine Wine And Caviar. :kawaii:

American Cartoons: Urine And Pig Swill. :vomit:

[Black_Knight]

Originally posted by Ronin Aquila
Here is the equivalent:

Anime: Fine Wine And Caviar. :kawaii:

American Cartoons: Urine And Pig Swill. :vomit:

Your equivalent...

[warlock]

Havent seen CC... not sure if it was the same thing as what was shown here..maybe it was CCS..anyways its has a great and humurous story

[Eledhel]

Is CC anime? Last time I checked, yes. True, it was horribly mangled in many many ways (and I seriously nearly cried the first time I heard the english opening ... and I hadn't even seen the episode yet!). BUT, it was created and produced in Japan, so it's anime whether you like it or not.



Originally posted by Ronin Aquila
Anime: Fine Wine And Caviar. :kawaii:

American Cartoons: Urine And Pig Swill. :vomit:


You mean I like to watch "urine and pig swill"??? Nooooooooooo!!! :D



And as for the whole "I think Japanimation is such a stupid word to use because it's shallow and etc etc etc," give it a rest already. In north america, 2-d productions with real people voice acting are called "cartoons." In japan, it's called "anime." cartoons and anime are the same thing. Japanimation is just another name for cartoons made in japan. got it?