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What was up with Ms.Mckenzie? She was psychic or soemthing and knew about the crdcaptors...what was up with her? was she evil or soemthing?
Darklightz
14-11-01, 04:26 PM
I haven't completely figured out myself who she is.Before I had first seen Yue I thought she was the other guardian.
She's not evil as she helps Sakura and her friends.She destroyed the maze made by The Maze card with a bell and gives advice whenever she can.
chieri_asuka
14-11-01, 05:58 PM
ahh you mean Kaho? umm...she is suppose to be something similar to a priestess at Tsukimine shrine(I think she was the daughter of the owner of the shrine) which is near Sakura's House. she was born with the power of moon like Sayoran and Yue but just different type of moon power. and the bell she holds during the episode where they capture the maze card and also in the final judgement also been magicked with strong moon power from Eriol. Since Eriol knew what would happen in the final judgement and when he met Kaho when she went originally to England he put the moon power in to that bell.She explains Why Sayoran didn't like her at the end of the first season in the manga or rather Clow cards part, that Sayoran's moon power was attracted to Yue's type of Moon power but not hers.
And late Eriol at the end of the manga series told hte Sakura and co. that it was himthat put the moon power into the bell.that's why Sakura was able to use windy without having to change it to a Sakura card with her new wand, because windy's attribute is moon. wow that explains a lot O.o...
chieri,
PS---I posted this at the "what's been cut?" as well
Her methods are a bit extreme but in the end you know that she's only trying to help. In fact, she's kinda like Eriol, ultimately.
Originally posted by chieri_asuka
ahh you mean Kaho? umm...she is suppose to be something similar to a priestess at Tsukimine shrine(I think she was the daughter of the owner of the shrine) which is near Sakura's House. she was born with the power of moon like Sayoran and Yue but just different type of moon power. and the bell she holds during the episode where they capture the maze card and also in the final judgement also been magicked with strong moon power from Eriol. Since Eriol knew what would happen in the final judgement and when he met Kaho when she went originally to England he put the moon power in to that bell.She explains Why Sayoran didn't like her at the end of the first season in the manga or rather Clow cards part, that Sayoran's moon power was attracted to Yue's type of Moon power but not hers.
And late Eriol at the end of the manga series told hte Sakura and co. that it was himthat put the moon power into the bell.that's why Sakura was able to use windy without having to change it to a Sakura card with her new wand, because windy's attribute is moon. wow that explains a lot O.o...
chieri,
PS---I posted this at the "what's been cut?" as well
i think your wrong on some points...
Kaho Mizuki (a.k.a. Ms. Mckenzie) wasn't born with moon powers but she earned it...
remember that the lunar bell was given by Clow Reed to the priests of Tsukimine shrine and that bell was passed down from generation to generation and was later passed down to Kaho Mizuki...(manga ver.)
Syaoran Li's powers were inherited from his family's bloodline and that's why he got attracted to Yue's/Yukito's moon power while he got negative reaction when he met Kaho Mizuki...
chieri_asuka
15-11-01, 03:52 AM
~_~...arghh am I getting confused at the part when one of them asked about the bell, Eriol said that he put in the moon power in that.. O.o..did he mean as Clow self or himself?
great it['s been like few months since I read it I thinkmy memory is getting patchy ~_~ that's sad...in my young age I get this occuring!>.<
chieri
^_^
Eriol told Kaho Mizuki that he put the power of the moon in the bell when he was Clow Reed...
another thing about using the moon bell and the windy card's power...
windy card's power isn't accociated with the power of the moon, actually in the first place, windy is an elemental card
Kaho Mizuki used the lunar bell to counteract on Yue's moon power...remember, two elements that are the same don't attract to each other just like a magnet (N+S=attract; N+N=don't attract)
Well...i did'nt understand a word of that...why does Lee hate her and what's her relationship with Tory?
ok...let me explain
Syaoran Li hates Kaho Mizuki because Kaho's power is only earned (or let's say borrowed from the lunar bell) and she wasn't born with moon powers and that's why Li has a negative reaction to Kaho's power because Li's power was inherited and not borrowed or earned
let me explain on Touya's relation to Kaho...
when Touya was in junior high, Kaho Mizuki was his math teacher and both of them fall in love with each other (back then, Touya was 16 and Kaho was around 19-20...i think)
chieri_asuka
15-11-01, 06:01 PM
no, Eriol did say " Because Windy's aspect is the Moon" It maybe an elemental card but the Clow card's aspects did ultimatly either belonged to the Sun or Moon. Like Light said that she was the most ardent supporter of Kerberus whom represents the Power of the Sun.
Chieri,
chieri_asuka
15-11-01, 06:14 PM
no, Eriol did say " Because Windy's aspect is the Moon" It maybe an elemental card but the Clow card's aspects did ultimatly either belonged to the Sun or Moon. Like Light said that she was the most ardent supporter of Kerberus whom represents the Power of the Sun.
Chieri,
below is the english translated Manga by Maria, from CCS Scans so it's not the *ahem* official one! O.o..
Black_Knight
15-11-01, 07:59 PM
Nice… I would give my input… But then again, everything I would have said, has been… :heh:
^_^
ok...i respect your reaction but i think some words on the manga translation is a bit off...
chieri_asuka
16-11-01, 07:04 AM
ummm yeah that's because it's a direct translation from Japanese and when you do that some grammers in English turns out weird and does sound a little off. the official translation is less true to the translation because they would have to change it so it makes sense in terms of English language. believe me even my sister says so (she gets like A average in Japanese O.o..)
^_^;;
chieri,
even my home country's language have to be translated from backwards in order to make it sound sensible in English and do you know how hard is that?translating a sentence in backwards is really hard >.<
^_^
that's the dangers of translation...
Card Captor Sakura! No mckenzies around here. Clow Leed (Eriol) gave Mizuki Sensei her powers in England.
chieri_asuka
18-11-01, 05:31 PM
~_~....You mean Eriol not Clow Read(that's the official spelling people! 'Read') because Eriol says to Yue that he may posses his memories but he is *NOT* Clow Read. So Eriol can't be Clow Read. And She got her power through that moon bell since Clow Read left it to the Tsukimine shrine long ago and she was born there at the shrine, as daughter of the owner of the shrine.And so she also got the moon bell from the priestess who was there before her(well a woman at any rate.) and it's been like that for generations after Clow Read died in Japan.
Chieri.
In manga vol 6 before Sakura's Staff changes Kaho explains about the moon bell and why etc..
just like chieri_asuka said
Eriol has the powers and the memories of Clow Reed but he's not Clow Reed...
the moon bell which Kaho Mizuki possess is originally from Clow Reed which has been given to the priests of Tsukimini Shrine and has been passed down from generation to generation and Kaho Mizuki's moon power is borrowed/earned from that bell...
but in the last/second last episode, mizuki did say that she heard that Clow Read(??) <Or his reincarnation or whatever> was in England, and went over there to help him. Thus she got her powers...blah blah blah. The bell was supposed to be a second chance sorta thing for Sakura.
chieri_asuka
19-11-01, 07:19 AM
here is the scene where Kaho is explaining her things
Mystical Saria
22-11-01, 07:31 AM
Originally posted by chieri_asuka
here is the scene where Kaho is explaining her things
What's it suppose to explain about her?
chieri_asuka
22-11-01, 06:09 PM
O.o..it's to who ever said that Eriol gave Kaho her powers, and it seems that for most of those born at the shrine like Kaho was already born with the power of the moon. Who ever was first totake care of it when Clow died eons back, must be Kaho's ancestor and it was said that she was born with a similar power to hers, and Kaho was born at the shrine too.
Chieri,
but i don't think Kaho was born with moon powers...she earned her moon powers
Mystical Saria
23-11-01, 02:49 AM
Originally posted by chieri_asuka
O.o..it's to who ever said that Eriol gave Kaho her powers, and it seems that for most of those born at the shrine like Kaho was already born with the power of the moon. Who ever was first totake care of it when Clow died eons back, must be Kaho's ancestor and it was said that she was born with a similar power to hers, and Kaho was born at the shrine too.
Chieri,
Okay! Thank you! :)
chieri_asuka
23-11-01, 07:49 AM
o.O...suzaku her ancestor was born with the power of the moon, and that magic flows through the family. she understood the use of the bell through her moon power but did not earn it. Eriol never ever said even one clue that Kaho got her power from him or the bell and Kaho herself never said that in anyways that she earned it but she explained why she knew about the bell that's because she had the power of the moon to able to understand it's mysteries.
Chieri
hai hai...cheiri_asuka-chan
i'll take your word...since i respect everybody's perspective and understanding
cloakactive
23-11-01, 11:04 PM
Whoa.... chieri_asuka after reading your well thought out post, your handle is now burned into my list of names i recognize. :) ~claps and cheers~ Personally, I just thought she was born with her powers and that her powers were passed down, but I never bothered to go into depth as to how and why and what not.
I know you joined way before me... but I never really noticed. Gomen. :heh:
chieri_asuka
24-11-01, 05:46 PM
uh.. :D thanks clockactive. and it's okay suzaku it's only because I am stubborn about what I believe in. hope did not hurt you too much.
Chieri,
iie
it didn't hurt me at all...i understand your perspective on this issue ^_^
So it goes this way. Li and Sakura likes Yukito because of the aspect of the moon. Li hates Kaho cuz she was just given moon powers. Ok so far?
Does Kero-chan being of the aspect of the sun hate Li or he just doesn't like Li for no more reason than he called him a stuffed animal?
let me clear it...
Li likes Yukito/Yue because Li got attracted to Yukito's/Yue's moon power while Sakura simply got attracted to Yukito/Yue...
there are two ver. on how Kaho Mizuki got her moon powers...[list=1] She earned her moon powers from the moon bell w/c was passed down from generation to generation(manga ver.) She was born with moon powers like other priests and priestess of Tsukimini Shrine and the moon bell was given by Eriol when she meet him in England(anime ver.)[/list=1]
as for Kero-chan, he's just doesn't like Li because he doesn't like he's attitude and for calling him a stuffed animal
chieri_asuka
29-11-01, 06:45 AM
O.o...uhh Moon Bell was always there at the Tsukimine shrine. She met him in England but never was given the Moon Bell at that time. Kero-chan :D just don't like Sayoran for calling him a 'stuffed animal' :lol: . Anyways Sun and Moon powers suppose to compliment each other not repel.But hey Kero-chan has high pride about himself ^_~.
Chieri,
OIC. Now it's clearer. Thanks guys. :)
I know now whom to ask for CCS trivia and clarification.
^_^
you can always ask me and chieri_asuka for CCS facts and figures
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