NOIR Indepth: The Book, The End

[Constantine Dragomirov]

Unimpressed as I am with NOIR, there were still some interesting and not immediately obvious aspects. Such as:

1. The Book - it appeared to have been written in a mix of several languages, including French, English, Italian, and Japanese. The main cast is also of different nations, and "Soldats" themselves are said to be spread all over the world (but was it so when the book was written?).

2. The Grand Retour - what was Altena's real goal? We know it's the resurrection of the first Soldats, but I doubt it has a literal meaning (after all, of what use would a few dozen Medieval zombies be?). Rather I had the impression that Altena wanted to unleash the True Noir (something un-human) on the world, probably meaning total death. It would mean that Noir is actually the sickle lady herself, who sometimes takes form of human avatars.

Sorry if the above subjects have been already brought up and done to death, but I didn't manage to find any thorough discussion, and decided to start a new thread.

[rei-gouki]

Everything here is IMO. I haven't had the time to properly follow Noir.
Originally posted by Constantine Dragomirov
1. The Book - it appeared to have been written in a mix of several languages, including French, English, Italian, and Japanese. The main cast is also of different nations, and "Soldats" themselves are said to be spread all over the world (but was it so when the book was written?).
:confused: Do you mean the Soldats Contract that Mireille searches for???
Originally posted by Constantine Dragomirov
2. The Grand Retour - what was Altena's real goal? We know it's the resurrection of the first Soldats, but I doubt it has a literal meaning (after all, of what use would a few dozen Medieval zombies be?). Rather I had the impression that Altena wanted to unleash the True Noir (something un-human) on the world, probably meaning total death. It would mean that Noir is actually the sickle lady herself, who sometimes takes form of human avatars.
She wanted to resurrect the concept of the first Soldats. In that time, Noir seems to have been the entity that served justice in the form of death. Altena's lack of emotion on hearing of the death of Chloe showed she took the trails very seriously. Though she may have wanted Chloe and Kirika to be the chosen 2, she was prepared to leave the final judgement to the trails themselves. Most, if not all the opponents and targets Mireille, Kirika and Chloe come up against deserve to be judged for their wrongful doings. The thing is, Noir serve (as in deal out) death as penalty, not gaol/jail time.

I probably forgot to mention a few things so ask away.

[Constantine Dragomirov]

1. I mean the book that the xeroxed pages come from; it has a title which I naturally forgot and am too lazy to scoop out.

2. What justice is there in merely murdering people left and right? To me it seems Altena was not bothered by justice, rather she wanted to have revenge on the world by drowning it in death.

[Takahashi]

If you have watched more carefully you could see that Altena was raped as a child during world war 2, thus the seed of hatred grew. Probably reason why she joined Soldats, just to punished the wicked in the world.

I always thought the book was just written in french and one page was translated into english by a professor for further study, he hasn't obtained the book since there is only three version. One of the books where destroyed by the church for radicals idea, one was burned when Soldats try to prevent Noir from obtaining it and the third, the original was in Altena posession. Though it is strange since most books from the midieval times where written in Latin, this one was written in French.

[Seventh Child]

The French translation of the book was called "Langon's Manuscript", if I remember correctly.

[rei-gouki]

That sounds better. This means the original was probably Latin (which is what I assumed the script was in having not paid much attention to it at the time).