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madatpaperboy
08-01-02, 10:53 PM
wow, i just started watching this series, and it's one of the few anime i've actually gotten excited about in around a year or so. yeah! it's good! i wanna know where i can get more than the first two volumes though. can anyone tell me?

suzaku
08-01-02, 11:43 PM
^_^

kawaii anime!!!
i love it!!! :kawaii:

suzaku
08-01-02, 11:47 PM
all i know is fansubs...is that alright with you?

Shadowbard
09-01-02, 03:26 AM
Sadly, Fruits Basket is not available in the USA. It is still coming out in Japan, and I believe they've gotten to DVD 4 in Japan. Which is great, if you don't need subtitles and have a region 2 encoded DVD player.

For those of us who don't...well, it gets tricky. There is the manga, which is very cute (I'm currently in the process of collecting as much Fruits Basket stuff as I can). From what I can tell, the story is pretty close in both the anime and the manga, although some things have been changed.

If you're looking for more information about the series, try going to Anipike (http://www.anipike.com). They have several sites listed for Fruits Basket, and they may have more information. My current favorite Furuba sites are:

Fruitz (http://www.geocities.com/fruitz_basket/index.html) - Character profiles, images, links, etc. Lots of information. This was the first site that I found.

Daiquiri (http://www.moonberry.net/daiquiri/index.html) - This is more of an image gallery than anything else, but they do have some links and information, as well as images from other series by the creator of Fruits Basket.

Fruit Medley (http://www.geocities.com/Tokyo/Blossom/7370/fb.html) - Again, lots of information, and their information is mostly different than the information at Fruitz. This site also has links to other sites.

I hope this is helpful. I really love this series, and I'm glad to see other people are enjoying it as much as I am.

~Anki

Nulani
09-01-02, 05:23 PM
I've watched a little of Fruits Basket and I've found it do be a very good and nice looking anime - I'm also liking the theme and plot of it.
I belive there's a thread talking about the anime a page or so back, you might want to see if you can find that.

Hanzo
09-01-02, 07:13 PM
I don't think most guys like Fruits Basket but i don't know why, i am actually kind of into this series. It really kewl and sweet, yaya i know i sound kinda corny for a guy but thats just want i think:p

i usually don't like shoujos but this one is an exception, i've seen up to eps 10, can't wait for more.

tekblade
09-01-02, 07:26 PM
i like it too, a bit too cutesy in some sense :heh: but i still think its a interesting series :D

cloakactive
09-01-02, 08:37 PM
Lets see... its shoujo.... and yea there are guys out there who watch these types of shows as well (raises his hand)... Overall its extremely cute and fun to watch. Its also a good way to get any girl into anime if they aren't into it (after all... snagging girls into the realm of anime with DBZ doesn't really work ya know? :p ) But I'd recommend it to any one who is into the romance with a twist sorta deal and what not.

As shadowbard said, no its not commercially released, but there are fansubs out there... so its only a matter of knowing where to go and get it (remember... no asking for links on here. :heh: )

Takahashi
09-01-02, 09:36 PM
Ha, there are more guys replying to this thread than girls, so where did you get that idea that guys don't like this anime:look:

suzaku
09-01-02, 10:28 PM
^_^

well...majority of us here watch this kind of anime

cloakactive
09-01-02, 10:34 PM
Originally posted by Takahashi
Ha, there are more guys replying to this thread than girls, so where did you get that idea that guys don't like this anime:look:

Who are you asking Takahashi? Me?

I'm actually responding to Hanzos speculation that guys generally don't like this sort of anime.

Takahashi
09-01-02, 10:43 PM
I think me and a lot of other guys, had responded to the previous Fruits Basket thread, I am just pointing that fact out. Then again I am never one to avoid a shoujo animes, no matter what the theme is, I am going to based my opinion after I have seen it. Right now I am watching Hana Yori Dango, Kareshi Kanojo no Jijou another shoujo animes and loving them as much as FB:).

The Captain
10-01-02, 12:26 AM
Fruits Basket is a really cool and kawaii series. It actually has watching precedence over Hellsing right now if you can believe that. It has good comedy, but also some nice dramatic moments. One of my fav episodes was the one explaining Hatori's past with Kana. Very sad... Oh yeah, baka neko rules!

suzaku
10-01-02, 02:25 AM
:lol:

baka neko ^_^

Takahashi
10-01-02, 06:02 AM
baka neko:lol: and wait till you see black Haru:D, though my favorite character is Shigure(the Inu).

The music is also great in this anime, I like the opening song the most it sound so sweet.

tekblade
10-01-02, 07:04 PM
hehe i like how everyone turns into a cutesy animal, hmm i forgot who but it was someone with white, sliverish hair that when hugged turned into a cow was it? that was the funniest animal ive seen :lol: hmm ive seen hana yori dango, and its interesting :D

The Captain
12-01-02, 01:23 AM
Originally posted by tekblade
hehe i like how everyone turns into a cutesy animal, hmm i forgot who but it was someone with white, sliverish hair that when hugged turned into a cow was it? that was the funniest animal ive seen :lol: hmm ive seen hana yori dango, and its interesting :D

Yeah, that was Haru. I loved the part when the girls were checking him out and rides away on a bicycle in dramatic fashion :lol: I thought Hatori changing into a seahorse was weird, though. An interesting substitute for a sea dragon...

JadeFire
13-01-02, 11:58 AM
I've only seen the first couple eppies of FB, and its adoreable XD I've admired the manga art for a long time, and always hoped FB fandom would improve! ;D

The Captain
14-01-02, 10:18 PM
Does anyone know when episode 11 is coming out on fansubs? Kinda getting impatient. *Still waiting for Kyo to kick Yuki's ass*

tekblade
16-01-02, 09:05 PM
hmm i dunno, i htink its soon :D

suzaku
16-01-02, 10:39 PM
just be patient...it will come out soon :)

The Captain
24-01-02, 07:43 PM
Argh! FUNimation has the rights to Fruits Basket! All I can see right now is crappy DBZ dubs. Damn, I guess they're going to stop fansubbing the eps. Anyways, the story is at www.animenewsnetwork.com

Fatal Outlaw
24-01-02, 08:37 PM
Originally posted by The Captain
Argh! FUNimation has the rights to Fruits Basket! All I can see right now is crappy DBZ dubs. Damn, I guess they're going to stop fansubbing the eps. Anyways, the story is at www.animenewsnetwork.com

funi's not that bad, as long as they release subbed and uncut dvd's then there should be no problems.

Fatal Outlaw
24-01-02, 08:38 PM
and o yea, some fansub distros still distribute licensed titles approx. 4 weeks after its bought.

cloakactive
24-01-02, 08:59 PM
Originally posted by Fatal Outlaw


funi's not that bad, as long as they release subbed and uncut dvd's then there should be no problems.

Its got its plusses and minuses...

Con: Its FUNimation for christs sake! ugh.
Pro: Then again, they are rather quick about releasing shows... so fruits basket coming our way faster! Whoo-hooo!

Fatal Outlaw
24-01-02, 09:16 PM
Originally posted by cloakactive


Pro: Then again, they are rather quick about releasing shows... so fruits basket coming our way faster! Whoo-hooo!

another pro: funimation has a tv-partnership with CN, now i dont know about Fruits basket, wheter or not its tv material, but Funi seems to like having their titles on air

Kano Miyazawa
24-01-02, 09:27 PM
:bawling: :bawling: :bawling:

...funimation? ...oh no. I have VERY little faith in them... I know they are trying to become a "legitimate anime company" ...but I just wish Fruits Basket could be in the hands of a more experienced company with a better reputation.

I really like Fruits Basket; it's such a cute anime and even though it's a shoujo I think appeals to a lot of guys too. My brothers like the show as much as I do!

cloakactive
25-01-02, 12:46 AM
Another con just to scare us all...

Con#2: They make Fruits Basket into another 'Cardcaptors' and try to market it towards guys and edit is as well... and not release any subtitled with Japanese Audio tracks ever.

Hope you haven't had a heart attack from reading this very very scary prospect.

tekblade
25-01-02, 07:09 PM
i think it might get butchered if ever aired on cn :D

Fatal Outlaw
27-01-02, 07:01 PM
Originally posted by cloakactive
Another con just to scare us all...

Con#2: They make Fruits Basket into another 'Cardcaptors' and try to market it towards guys and edit is as well... and not release any subtitled with Japanese Audio tracks ever.


i dont think they'd do that, they very well damn know its a shoujo (as seen in dragonballz.com).

Fatal Outlaw
27-01-02, 07:02 PM
OK, some news: according to ANN, from dragonballz.com, Funimation intends to release Fruits Basket in 2002. my guess is, probably this summer

Westlo
27-01-02, 07:28 PM
sigh

why oh why notsofunimation

though if the blue gender dvd is something to go by this could turn out ok, but funimation are too slow (not counting dbz) and 3 eps per dvd is something pioneer can get away with but not funimation

matsu
29-01-02, 07:35 AM
well i'm watching Fruit Basket atm, and i'm quite enjoying it =)

Baka-neko is absolutely adorable. hmmm Kyou does remind me quite a lot of Tasuki from Fushigi (who i adore also ^_~). From both personality and looks as well.

Shigure is a crack up and i like his 'enlightening' comments =)

The Captain
29-01-02, 10:28 AM
Fruits Basket 12 is out already. It's been done by Ronin Fansubs. Still trying to get it :lol:

tekblade
29-01-02, 07:04 PM
hmm ill hafta go and see :D

Takahashi
30-01-02, 11:53 AM
So has anyone seen 12 yet? I was suprised by Momiji age:heh:

tekblade
30-01-02, 07:55 PM
hmm shes around 15 or 16 wasnt it? i know shes still in junior high or something right? i dunno i forgot, but yeah shes pretty young. hell she still has them animal panties :lol:

Ronin Aquila
31-01-02, 04:45 AM
Horror news recieved from Anime News Service:

Funimation (oh what an ironically inappropriately named studio), the bastards who have defecated on the name of DBZ with their censorship, have officially licensed Fruit Basket for an edited American televisation.

Shadowbard
31-01-02, 02:43 PM
Ummm.....tekblade, if you're talking about Momiji....He's a guy, not a girl.

I already knew Momiji's age, but that's neither here nor there.

As for the reason(s) why FUNi licensed Fruits Basket....I still think they'll be giving us an uncut version on DVD/VHS. That's what they've been doing with Blue Gender, and actually, from checking their site, that's what they've also been doing with DBZ. They've really gotten a lot better as a company, so I don't know why people keep complaining so much about it.

If Fruits Basket does end up on television (probably Cartoon Network) it would be sad if they edited it, but you do have to admit, there are a lot of Japanese references all throughout the series. I hope they don't edit it too much if at all, because there really isn't any need.

Besides....when it comes to editing for TV, the companies who license the series don't necessarily want to do the editing. It's the censors that work for the television companies that want to do the editing.

~Anki

Takahashi
31-01-02, 02:59 PM
Oh, I thought Tekblade meant, Tohru Honda. I thought everybody knew Momiji was a guy:heh:. Should be really obvious with the bath scene. For clarification, I thought Momiji was still a kindergarten kid looking and acting like he was 8 or something. Apparently he is just one year younger than Yuki and the Baka Neko, hench why they totally disagree about him sleeping in the same room with Tohru.

Ronin Aquila
31-01-02, 06:45 PM
Oh, you still get the toilet bowl's end of the deal even if you do get uncut funimation DVDs, for they are still dubbed and devoid of original music. :mad2:

tekblade
31-01-02, 07:14 PM
oops my bad i forgot i got mixed with the momiji from blueseed silly me :heh: yeah i remember hes the blonde haired person right? plus who knows how it will go with funimation, we'll hafta sit back and see :D

Fatal Outlaw
31-01-02, 09:04 PM
ronin auila, you really are stuck from 3 years ago. Funi has really been doing a great job lately. Blue gender is being released uncut on dvd bilingual and so does yu yu hakusho (and dbz). funi has already learned from their mistakes and dont edit anime unless it'll be broadcast on air, which in that case, is getting better, funi's edits are getting lighter, they kept all blood on gohan's face and vegeta's face on season 5 and they kept "kill" and "die". but it doesnt matter though, as long as they release it uncut on dvd.

edit: they'll also keep the original music (they did for there past releases like DB, BG and YYH, so they probably will too for FB), they really did learn from there mistake.

Ronin Aquila
01-02-02, 01:38 AM
Well, Australia really musn't be considered financially important in the grand scheme of things, because we ONLY get monolingula DBZ DVDs. :mad2:

cloakactive
01-02-02, 02:21 AM
Originally posted by Ronin Aquila
Horror news recieved from Anime News Service:

Funimation (oh what an ironically inappropriately named studio), the bastards who have defecated on the name of DBZ with their censorship, have officially licensed Fruit Basket for an edited American televisation.

:bawling: The pure horror. Please tell me we are at least getting Fruits Basket unedited on DVD? Please?

Fatal Outlaw
01-02-02, 04:20 PM
Originally posted by cloakactive


:bawling: The pure horror. Please tell me we are at least getting Fruits Basket unedited on DVD? Please?

they should be...if they release dbz, YYH, blue gender, and db in uncut bilingual dvd's (i have no idea why its monolingual over there in aus, go blame to australian distributor), then theres no reason why they shouldnt release FB uncut on dvd

Ronin Aquila
02-02-02, 01:32 AM
Oh they will.... just not in Australia. And this thus far has applied to Card Captors as well. :mad2:

I guess the distributors want to cover their ass with this tactic because they know that only true anime loyalists would go out of their way to spend extra money at specialist to see the original beauty of a series, whereas the general Blockbuster Video going public are so ignorant to the true scope of anime that they'll think that what is shown to them is the real piece. :mad2:

The Captain
07-02-02, 10:37 PM
Finally saw 13 and 14 today. I think I'm almost to my bishounen breaking point :lol: Especially in ep 14, where you see Yuki, Kyo, Shigure, Aya, Hatsuhara, Hatori, and Akito. Both eps are really good though. I like how FB can balance good comedy with serious dramatic moments, i.e. when Akito came to the school.

Ronin Aquila
08-02-02, 01:03 AM
FB has to be one of the few animes out there that has bittersweet and downbeat title and ending songs as opposed to happy and upbeat ones.

tekblade
08-02-02, 07:14 PM
yeah i like the intro, slow and simple, not much of a fast beat and all :D

Ronin Aquila
09-02-02, 12:24 AM
Watch the intro on the wrong day and you will break down and cry.

Such is its poignant beauty....

Which the motherf#ckers at Funimation are going to obliterate in place of soulless synthesiser composed garbage music. :mad2:

Svietnam
09-02-02, 03:20 AM
Originally posted by tekblade
yeah i like the intro, slow and simple, not much of a fast beat and all :D

It's Beautiful

Ronin Aquila
09-02-02, 04:45 AM
Slow, Heartwarming and Gentle Anime songs are so much better than fast and kinetic ones, aren't they?

Other heartwaming classics include:

Yell (Opening of To Heart ).

Dearest (Opening of I My Me Strawberry Eggs. ).

Svietnam
09-02-02, 06:05 AM
Originally posted by Ronin Aquila
Slow, Heartwarming and Gentle Anime songs are so much better than fast and kinetic ones, aren't they?

Other heartwaming classics include:

Yell (Opening of To Heart ).

Dearest (Opening of I My Me Strawberry Eggs. ).

To me, the slow, heartwarming, and gental songs seem more classic and can endure the test of time.

The fast pop songs seem more like a passing fancy attention grabber, but not all fast songs are bad. :lol:

Ronin Aquila
09-02-02, 11:55 AM
Give A Reason (Slayers Next Opening) and I'm A Pioneer (Tenchi OVA2 Opening) will remain inspirational classics in my heart in spite of their fast poppy pace. :kawaii:

tekblade
10-02-02, 08:15 PM
ahh yeah i remember. those songs were nice, but i only hear i am a pioneer in english and i thought it was okay, give a reason is one of my many favortie songs :D

Ronin Aquila
11-02-02, 12:45 AM
Believe me, I'm a Pioneer is a classic when sung in Japanese. :)

Fatal Outlaw
11-02-02, 01:00 AM
Originally posted by Ronin Aquila
Which the motherf#ckers at Funimation are going to obliterate in place of soulless synthesiser composed garbage music. :mad2:

dude, i bet my mom, they wont change it. they only did that on dbz. what they might do is dub the same song in english, but hey, at least they kept the song.

Ronin Aquila
11-02-02, 03:18 AM
But I doubt that they'll acknowledge the lead girl's tragic past.

After all, American under 10's are all a bunch of weak minded cowards who have to be told that people "go to another dimension" when they are punched too hard or blasted with searing hot energy, are they not?

I think they would rather make up some crap about her running away from home than ever acknowledge her mother's death. That's the bunch of hypocrytical soft asses Funimation are. :mad2:

Shadowbard
11-02-02, 03:51 AM
Ronin Aquila, the fact remains that we aren't going to know how well (or poorly) FUNimation will do on Fruits Basket until it is actually released.

And FUNi actually listens to the fans...there really is hope for Fruits Basket. Let's not bash people, okay?

~Anki

Ronin Aquila
11-02-02, 04:37 AM
Sure, they listen to the fans...

Right until the God Fearing, Church Going parents of their targeted-8-year-old-audiences start making phone calls. :mad2:

Don't believe me? Then why can the bloody Animaniacs of Warner Brothers literally go to Hell and meet Death himself , but Mister Satan of DBZ just has to be renamed Mister Hercule for the American boradcast?

Despite the fact that much of the violence is retained, the music, dialogue and Americanised names still remain atrocious and out of character.

Now I know you may say "Don't like it, don't watch it." But I would really like to proudly acknowledge that I am an anime fan without being laughed at and ridiculed in public. We don't have to be an unnecessarily persecuted minority like Star Trek fans (which I am also), but Americanised stupid editing makes us so. :mad2: :(

Fatal Outlaw
11-02-02, 10:44 PM
Originally posted by Ronin Aquila
Sure, they listen to the fans...

Right until the God Fearing, Church Going parents of their targeted-8-year-old-audiences start making phone calls. :mad2:

Don't believe me? Then why can the bloody Animaniacs of Warner Brothers literally go to Hell and meet Death himself , but Mister Satan of DBZ just has to be renamed Mister Hercule for the American boradcast?

yea, they do edit it, for american broadcast is the keyword. theyre not gonna air FB on CN so there is no reason at all on why Funi is gonna edit it. Funimation has already proved that they can release uncut anime bilingual, so dont worry about how they'' butcher it. im 100% that they'll release it uncut. and also, they changed Satan to Hercule on TV, but on the videos, he's name is still Satan. (they call him Hercule Satan)


Despite the fact that much of the violence is retained, the music, dialogue and Americanised names still remain atrocious and out of character.
Funi dont do that anymore. they kept all names on YYH and BG.


Now I know you may say "Don't like it, don't watch it." But I would really like to proudly acknowledge that I am an anime fan without being laughed at and ridiculed in public. We don't have to be an unnecessarily persecuted minority like Star Trek fans (which I am also), but Americanised stupid editing makes us so. :mad2: :(

they are not gonna edit it for crying out loud. if it was nelvana (the company responsible for killing CCS), then yes, then it will be edited, but this is a different company that recently proven that they can be a good anime company. i assure you, FB will be released uncut, unscathed. i am sure.

Ronin Aquila
12-02-02, 12:08 AM
What of the music then, old chap? :confused:

suzaku
12-02-02, 01:34 AM
i know the music but i can't remember the tune...

Ronin Aquila
12-02-02, 06:51 AM
We shall see when it lands on Australian shores.

tekblade
12-02-02, 04:05 PM
hehe, tell us all about it :D

ParticleEffect
12-02-02, 05:48 PM
ive also been slowly watching this. im up to ep 9 i think and i have up to like 14. i like it.

Ronin Aquila
13-02-02, 12:26 AM
Gotta continue with it as a soon as I land on Terra Australis again. Taiwan is good but slow at releasing its anime, y'know? :heh:

tekblade
13-02-02, 07:19 PM
ahh . well i live in america and i dont have any anime resources which kinda sucks :lol: my resources are only fansubs but i know have an anime rental place but membership fee is 15 bucks and rental is 3 bucks for only 1 day. i mean jeez kinda harsh aint it? :heh: well i used to go to the store but now my membership is used up only good for a year. also some of the anime or well, meh. ill prob end up going back soon, been almost over a year :lol:

Svietnam
13-02-02, 07:31 PM
Originally posted by Ronin Aquila
What of the music then, old chap? :confused:

What does happen to the music when a show gets dubbed? I never really thought about it and I have not seen many dubbed shows. I know they didn't change the music in the Cowboy Bebop DVD, but most of the music was in english. Come to think of it they didn't edit or cut the music on the Trigun DVD either. I guess it depends on the company?

I hope they don't edit out or change the Fruits Basket music, I think the music fits wonderfully in the show. The intro and ending songs have really grown on me.

Takahashi
13-02-02, 08:01 PM
Originally posted by tekblade
ahh . well i live in america and i dont have any anime resources which kinda sucks :lol: my resources are only fansubs but i know have an anime rental place but membership fee is 15 bucks and rental is 3 bucks for only 1 day. i mean jeez kinda harsh aint it? :heh: well i used to go to the store but now my membership is used up only good for a year. also some of the anime or well, meh. ill prob end up going back soon, been almost over a year :lol:
You should count your blessing, first of all there isn't an anime rental around here at all. Most rental places feature 2-3 anime title, which you probably guess, would be very old worn out tapes and stuff people already have seen three four times already. 3 buck a tape ain't half bad considering you don't have to buy the damn dvd for 30 buck and then realised that it ain't your type of anime. Considering there isn't any store around that sells animes, so I have to actually travel to other cities to get a glimps at the meager selection they got and getting DVD from abroad is much cheaper than here.

tekblade
14-02-02, 07:38 PM
ahhh my apologies :D then i guess i should be lucky :lol: that sucks, i guess i never realized it was that important. I wonder if the stores closed, it never gotten that much business, i hope it didnt :D

cloakactive
14-02-02, 07:41 PM
You guys realize... that your limited resources of anime only depends on your lack of knowing where to look. :) If you guys looked around I'm sure you'd have a larger resource pool then you realize. ^^

tekblade
14-02-02, 07:52 PM
naw not where i live, most of it are just places that sell gundam figures of the sort. i even know an area called japan town, and they do sell anime and rent but its kinda far from where i live :D

Takahashi
14-02-02, 07:52 PM
Yup, I got cable about half a year ago and now live on an endless supply of animes. I can't keep up with the stuff I get in, I haven't seen a lot of the stuff I got on HD.

Ronin Aquila
15-02-02, 02:17 AM
Quick advice: Invest in a CD-Write drive and burn the animes you like onto the discs for you to keep for ever and ever. :kawaii:

Takahashi
15-02-02, 04:53 AM
Already got that, burning at 20 speed, makes me run out of CD real fast:D. But I like to keep my animes on HD so they are easier to track. Uhmm I need to buy a 120GB HD next month, I guess.

Ronin Aquila
15-02-02, 11:02 AM
120GB!? :eek:

Whoa... Just hearing that amount is astounding, and here you are destined to be the proud owner of that much memory....

:eek:

Takahashi
15-02-02, 01:56 PM
120 doesn't sound like that much when you are already using a 60 and 80 GB drives.

tekblade
15-02-02, 07:19 PM
dang :eek: i thought me having a 40 gig was enough, my my you must really have a huge collection :D ive burn most of my stuff on cd also but ivve been running low and im too lazy to burn it :lol:

The Captain
15-02-02, 09:50 PM
120 gig isn't that crazy. I've seen people sharing 300-400 gigs of anime where I usually get it. As for me, I just burn a lot of cds. Got over 100 or so by now.

Ronin Aquila
16-02-02, 06:23 AM
Economically, compact discs are much more sound.

For 26 Episode Series like Fruits Basket, however, 9 discs a season of anime can be taxing on shelf space.

But what the hell, at least our wallets are happy. :kawaii:

suzaku
16-02-02, 10:34 AM
i guess so...

Drizzten
16-02-02, 03:22 PM
*cough*

*starts searching thread for the last decent FB-related post...*

ParticleEffect
16-02-02, 04:15 PM
mine! it was ub3r dec3nt.

:rolleyes: i like having everything on hd also, i got a 80 gig for media right now that should last a couple more months.

suzaku
16-02-02, 06:30 PM
HOE!!!

that's one large HD space for media

Takahashi
16-02-02, 09:00 PM
Back to FB before Drizzten starts to think of closing this thread:).
How many episode are sub and did I saw that right, there are several groups that are subbing it eventhought it was licensed or something like that.

The Captain
16-02-02, 10:37 PM
As far as I know, it's been subbed up to episode 16. Yes, there's been a couple of groups fansubbing it despite Funi's liscencing.

Ronin Aquila
17-02-02, 10:36 AM
Because they know they'll do a better translation than those stupid network executives ever will. :D

suzaku
18-02-02, 12:31 AM
hai hai

only the executives know is how to make money...

Ronin Aquila
18-02-02, 03:10 AM
Out of the mortage of illiterate red-neck inbred trailer trash by marketing anime towards them, and thus equating anime fans with illiterate red-neck inbred trailer trash. :mad2:

suzaku
18-02-02, 03:23 AM
hai hai

Ronin Aquila
18-02-02, 04:01 AM
Indeed. :kawaii:

tekblade
18-02-02, 03:06 PM
hehe :D and at high prices with crummy subs and translations. well i dont think we can do much about it, or can we :heh: i like fb too much to see it get tortured and all, i hope it somehow becomes complete before it gets tainted by the company who licensed it

suzaku
19-02-02, 01:37 AM
with bad companies like this...their product would be worthless

tekblade
19-02-02, 06:59 PM
yeah but there are ppl that dont know of the digital underground and deperate for anime so those ppl end up letting them business continue, they dont know the ture essence of anime yet...

suzaku
19-02-02, 10:41 PM
hai hai

if they keep up this kind of attitude towards anime and using anime as their instrument of profit then they'll never know the true essence of anime

tekblade
20-02-02, 07:09 PM
yep so true :D

Takahashi
20-02-02, 08:43 PM
OK, I have seen up to episode 17, who do you think is the cutest character up to now?:D

I say Momiji and right after him Kisa:) Also those two has the saddest history:(

suzaku
20-02-02, 08:51 PM
can't say since i've only watched up to ep. 10...

The Captain
20-02-02, 09:56 PM
Nah, I think Hatori has the saddest background. Momiji and Kisa had some rough times, but kids bounce back easier I think. The episode describing Hatori's relationship with Kana was a tear-jerker.

suzaku
20-02-02, 10:18 PM
hai hai

:bawling:

among the 10 eps. i've watched, this is one tear jerker

tekblade
21-02-02, 07:26 PM
ahh yeah thats was a sad one, but if you get to see about momiji's , its sad also, hmm almost everyone has a bad past

^FallenAngel^
21-02-02, 08:15 PM
I agree as well!! Ep 9 was really sad!! :(

What are the names of each character ??? I don't know their english names.... =(
can someone just list it out for me pls?

Takahashi
21-02-02, 09:17 PM
All have Souma family name except Tohru Honda.
Yuki - mouse
Shigure - Dog
Kyou - Cat
Momiji - Rabbit
Hatori - Dragon
Haru - Ox
Akito - ?
Kisa - Tiger
Kagura - Boar
Aya - Snake
? - Horse
? - Rooster
? - Monkey
? - Sheep

suzaku
21-02-02, 09:52 PM
hoe...

all we need now is to find out Akito, Horse, Rooster, Monkey and sheep ^_^

^FallenAngel^
22-02-02, 01:04 AM
Thanks for the info Takahashi!!! :D

I really like Kyou's character!! He's soo cute!! Even though he's always hot tempered but deep down he's a softy as well!! hehe...

Yuki - He's alright. He's funny when it comes to his brother issue.
Shigure - He's really cheeky.... he's abit like 2 faced! What do u think guys??
Momiji - I feel sorry for him!!
Hatehori - dragon?? which one is that? atm, I only know the doctor.. but he's the sea horse.
Haru - He's cool! The dark side of him can be scary....
Akito - He's a mad man!! :mad:
Kisa - she's soooo cute!!! especially in her tiger form!!

Aya - I like this character as well!! Abit overboard and crazy... but fun to watch/read about him!!

Takahashi
22-02-02, 04:03 AM
Hatehori(AKA Ha-Chan) is the doctor, also is the dragon. Old japanese myth said that the seahorse would one day grow into a dragon. Shigure is my favorite character:D, he is so sneaky and funny, especially with his editor(very cruell) :lol:. Aya is so glueless and crazy, but he is also one of my favorite.

suzaku
22-02-02, 11:52 AM
i really like Shigure since he's the life of the series :D

tekblade
22-02-02, 07:00 PM
heh hes funny :lol: espically when the girl comes for the editorial he does :D

suzaku
23-02-02, 07:19 PM
:lol:

High School Girls, High School Girls are waiting for me :)

~ Shouma Shigure

Svietnam
23-02-02, 09:07 PM
Originally posted by ^FallenAngel^
I agree as well!! Ep 9 was really sad!! :(

What are the names of each character ??? I don't know their english names.... =(
can someone just list it out for me pls?

Here are two links to some excellent Fruits Basket fansites.

Fruit Medley
http://www.geocities.com/Tokyo/Blossom/7370/fb.html

and

Fruitz
http://www.geocities.com/fruitz_basket/

Both Fruit Medley and Fruitz have mostly information from the manga, but Fruit Medley has some from the anime also. In general Fruit Medley has more information.

The Captain
24-02-02, 01:06 AM
I like Shigure a lot too, but sometimes it seems like he's planning something with Akito. I feel like he's always talking to Akito about Yuki and Kyo. If I was Yuki, I would kick Akito's ass.

suzaku
24-02-02, 05:17 AM
there's nothing we could do about it...Akito is the head of the Sohma clan

^FallenAngel^
24-02-02, 05:44 AM
Originally posted by Svietnam


Here are two links to some excellent Fruits Basket fansites.

Fruit Medley
http://www.geocities.com/Tokyo/Blossom/7370/fb.html

and

Fruitz
http://www.geocities.com/fruitz_basket/

Both Fruit Medley and Fruitz have mostly information from the manga, but Fruit Medley has some from the anime also. In general Fruit Medley has more information.


Thanks for the information!
I'm building a Fruit Basket page myself!! So i need to know how spell their names!! :D

suzaku
24-02-02, 06:39 AM
looking forward for it ^_^

tekblade
25-02-02, 07:07 PM
yay the more the merrier eh :heh:

suzaku
25-02-02, 10:36 PM
hai hai :kawaii:

^FallenAngel^
26-02-02, 05:20 PM
Arigatou minna! :D
I hope I won't disgrace the hp standards!! haha....jk
I would also like to see more Fruit basket hps.. but I think there are quite a few out there now!! And I'm sure it's still growing!! hehee... :lol:

suzaku
26-02-02, 06:17 PM
^_^

dou itamashite

tekblade
26-02-02, 06:50 PM
yeah ive seen a lot out there now, but more and more are coming and better each time ise'em :D i bet yours wil lcome out nice with the rest :D

suzaku
26-02-02, 07:31 PM
^_^

and we can't wait for its opening :kawaii:

ParticleEffect
26-02-02, 09:37 PM
Originally posted by Svietnam


Here are two links to some excellent Fruits Basket fansites.

Fruit Medley
http://www.geocities.com/Tokyo/Blossom/7370/fb.html

and

Fruitz
http://www.geocities.com/fruitz_basket/

Both Fruit Medley and Fruitz have mostly information from the manga, but Fruit Medley has some from the anime also. In general Fruit Medley has more information.


3. 2. 1. over bandwidth limit =p. gues ill check back later, damn geocities!


ive seen up to ep 15 as of 20 mins ago. and i think i may have up to 17 or 18 in subs, the rest are only raw ;{

suzaku
26-02-02, 10:08 PM
hoe...

i have 16 eps to go...
must watch more! ^_^

Takahashi
26-02-02, 10:39 PM
I have just seen episode 19 subbed, need to see the rest in raw tomorrow.

suzaku
26-02-02, 10:51 PM
hoe... ^_^

tekblade
27-02-02, 06:49 PM
oooh , well i kinda ruined it formyself, i saw 25 and 26 raw , but i didnt understand one word what happened, but oh well, we shall wait and then enjoy the pleasures of life when it arrives :D

Takahashi
27-02-02, 07:03 PM
Yeah me too, I didn't even planned to get spoiled, I was just checking the quality of the file I just downloaded:heh:.

suzaku
27-02-02, 09:51 PM
hoe...

you're lucky that you could keep your connection 24/7 and download those video files...

^FallenAngel^
28-02-02, 12:54 AM
How many r there anyway??
I've only seen upto ep 11 atm!! *sigh*

but the manga vols are getting better....
I just find out that.. the sheep is a boy!! and he likes Kisa!! hehe.... sooo cute!!! :lol:

tekblade
01-03-02, 07:14 PM
i think 26 :heh: im not sure

hrm suzaku i didnt downloadem my sis did, and she has her ways of getting them...

hehe yeah that sucks takahashi, we cant help it though, its always temptin to see :D

Svietnam
02-03-02, 12:52 AM
Originally posted by ^FallenAngel^
How many r there anyway??
I've only seen upto ep 11 atm!! *sigh*

but the manga vols are getting better....
I just find out that.. the sheep is a boy!! and he likes Kisa!! hehe.... sooo cute!!! :lol:

The show ended on ep 26.

They might make more, I'm not sure. They show ended because they reached the end of the most current manga, also ep 26 seems to be a common stopping point. I guess they just got the current mangas and said "Hey, lets make 26 eps of anime."

Takahashi
02-03-02, 01:40 AM
Originally posted by tekblade
i think 26 :heh: im not sure

hrm suzaku i didnt downloadem my sis did, and she has her ways of getting them...

hehe yeah that sucks takahashi, we cant help it though, its always temptin to see :D
Wish I had a sister like that;), then I don't have to download it myself:D.
But yes, the serie ended at episode 26. I don't think there is any plans for anymore, though it might cause of the popularity of this anime. I sure hope so.

arwen227
04-03-02, 01:34 PM
does anyone have an idea on when ep 20-26 will be subbed? :confused:

and plz does anyone know who licenced Fruits Basket and if it will be available for DVD in the future?

Thankx :o

Svietnam
04-03-02, 03:05 PM
Originally posted by arwen227
does anyone have an idea on when ep 20-26 will be subbed? :confused:

and plz does anyone know who licenced Fruits Basket and if it will be available for DVD in the future?

Thankx :o

I'm not sure when or if ep 20-26 will come out(fansubbed). The show is licenced and the 'main' group that is fansubbing Fruits Basket now, akufansubs, is taking a lot of flak for fansubbing a show that is licensed. There are other groups fansubbing Fruits Basket past ep 11, but akufansubs seems to be the one with the most and latest releases after ep 11. Also, it has been mentioned before but the 'best' fansubs after ep 11 are fansubed by Furuba Fansubs, they only problem is Furuba Fansubs is slower on their releases.

Funimation is the company that has licensed Fruits Basket, and a lot of people have been 'hating on em real bad.' Which leads to the reason why some fansubs groups have decided to continune fansubbing Fruits Basket, they feel Funimation will 'destroy' Fruits Basket.

I have no idea when Fruits Basket will be available on DVD in the USA, but I can't wait. :D I hear Funimation is quick thou, so the wait might not be too long.

arwen227
04-03-02, 03:12 PM
Thanks Svietnam for the info...... i hope the dvds are out soon... and i really hope that they fansub the rest .. cause its really hard to wait to know who the rest of the Juujinshi (sp) animals and what will develop between the characters.. i just wish i understood japanese...
which will hopefully be solved in about a month or two.. hehee currently taking up lessons... :D

^FallenAngel^
04-03-02, 09:49 PM
Originally posted by Svietnam


The show ended on ep 26.

They might make more, I'm not sure. They show ended because they reached the end of the most current manga, also ep 26 seems to be a common stopping point. I guess they just got the current mangas and said "Hey, lets make 26 eps of anime."

So what's the end point? Cos i've read 7 vols of manga... and I just want to know whether i'm missin on anything atm!!

ParticleEffect
04-03-02, 11:47 PM
gettin the last 4-6 eps has been a pain. *waits patiently* still only got up to 20 subbed.

suzaku
05-03-02, 01:51 AM
HOE!!!

i really need those eps.

arwen227
05-03-02, 02:47 AM
Originally posted by ParticleEffect
gettin the last 4-6 eps has been a pain. *waits patiently* still only got up to 20 subbed.



Seriously??? :eek:

i only saw up to 19 :(
Lucky!

Svietnam
05-03-02, 02:53 AM
Originally posted by arwen227


Thanks Svietnam for the info...... i hope the dvds are out soon... and i really hope that they fansub the rest .. cause its really hard to wait to know who the rest of the Juujinshi (sp) animals and what will develop between the characters.. i just wish i understood japanese...
which will hopefully be solved in about a month or two.. hehee currently taking up lessons...

Sure thing..
If your really dying to know who is what animal you might want to check out a few fansites. (Spoiler inc?)Also, I think, currently in the manga we don't know what certain people turn into yet.

Originally posted by ^FallenAngel^


So what's the end point? Cos i've read 7 vols of manga... and I just want to know whether i'm missin on anything atm!!

I have not read much of the manga so I don't really know, most of my information I have gathered from fansites or just Fruits Basket 'chit-chat.' Also I have not seen all of ep 26, I had it at one time but I didn't want to spoil it and I don't know Japanese.

tekblade
05-03-02, 07:06 PM
Originally posted by Takahashi

Wish I had a sister like that;), then I don't have to download it myself:D.
But yes, the serie ended at episode 26. I don't think there is any plans for anymore, though it might cause of the popularity of this anime. I sure hope so.


hehe my sister loves fb so much she downloads it i just freeload :lol: hrm and the manga not too sure and that :heh:

Takahashi
11-03-02, 07:13 AM
Take a look at the picture, its weird, but amusing:lol:

arwen227
11-03-02, 07:37 AM
YES!! at last i got to see ep 20 and 21!! i cant wait for the rest of the episodes its just SOOOOOOOOOO cool ... i love FRUITS BASKET! :D

Svietnam
11-03-02, 07:47 PM
Originally posted by Takahashi
Take a look at the picture, its weird, but amusing:lol:

Haha... Ayame is one of my favorite charaters in the show. He is so energentic, eccentric, and LOUD! Everytime I see his antics it makes me laugh.

My most favorite charater has to be Shigure because he's cool, calm, drives his publisher crazy, and at times really insightful and caring.

suzaku
12-03-02, 01:25 AM
Shigure is the most funniest character in Fruits Basket :D

cloakactive
12-03-02, 01:33 AM
*AHEM* (http://animeboards.com/showthread.php?s=&postid=537472994#post537472994)

Look whats #3 :D

tekblade
12-03-02, 02:15 AM
oooh thats cool :D , hmm i cant believe onegai teacher got 2 :heh:

7thKeeper
12-03-02, 05:26 AM
I just got episodes 1 and 3 of Fruits Basket ^.^ I love it...

Svietnam
22-03-02, 06:30 PM
Humm...

It seems akufansubs has decided to stop fansubbing Fruits Basket.

ParticleEffect
22-03-02, 06:33 PM
welp, ive seen up through 21 now. 21 was done by furuba or someone, no info on the sub itself other than the name so i cant go cheer them on through the finish. quality was fine.

Svietnam
23-03-02, 05:46 AM
Originally posted by ParticleEffect
welp, ive seen up through 21 now. 21 was done by furuba or someone, no info on the sub itself other than the name so i cant go cheer them on through the finish. quality was fine.

Ya, ep 21 was fansubed by furuba fansubs. I think they are the only ones fansubbing it now.

Fatal Outlaw
12-04-02, 03:44 PM
<for some FB news>
i'd say expect FB to air on tv (not neccesarily on cn)
here's proof:


quote:

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Originally posted by Fatal
do you know if funimation will try and get tv deals for lupinIII and fruits basket?
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------

I think its safe to say that they'll likely pursue the broadcast route for any property acquired. It seems that TV exposure guarantees vhs/dvd sales.

Thanks,
Kyle
www.kylehebert.com
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that was asked by me in the AS forums. now, before anyone bitches about how they are gonna use techno music and chop it up, i'll be happy to tell you that all episodes they showed on tv (up to episode 8 i think) of Yu Yu Hakusho (by funimation as well) are uncut except those 2 edits they made that are "sexual" (like pulling up a skirt and touching the chest of a girl). and yes, original music is intact, so its pretty safe to say that they will do thesame thing with Fruits basket. (after all, thats what they have been doing in their past new animes)

note: that passage i put up above simply states that they may acquire tv rights for FB, (theres also a chance that it might not), just wanted to clear that up becuase some peopel might think that FB is already confirmed

Ronin Aquila
13-04-02, 07:43 AM
Oh deary me.

You gotta remember that lifting a skirt is quite comparatively tame to the average sexual content of a Fox Network show.

And Fruits Basket, if anything, has more risque (abelite tastefully done) sexual jokes than YYHK. Therefore expect this series to go through the meat grinder big time. :heh:

ParticleEffect
13-04-02, 02:44 PM
and CN has a history of cutting out pretty much all refs to homosexuality.

Fatal Outlaw
13-04-02, 04:55 PM
Originally posted by ParticleEffect
and CN has a history of cutting out pretty much all refs to homosexuality.
anime on tv doesnt neccearily mean on CN, the guy said it might be on tv but not neccesarily cn. how about if its on adult swim? do you guys think it will make it there? is it more risque than how faye valentine dresses?

just for the record, there has been homosexuality on AS shows (just not hardcore butt-sex)

Svietnam
13-04-02, 06:32 PM
Originally posted by ParticleEffect
and CN has a history of cutting out pretty much all refs to homosexuality.

I wonder if this means they will cut out all the jokes between Ayame, Shigure, and Hatori.


Originally posted by Fatal Outlaw
anime on tv doesnt neccearily mean on CN, the guy said it might be on tv but not neccesarily cn. how about if its on adult swim? do you guys think it will make it there? is it more risque than how faye valentine dresses?

just for the record, there has been homosexuality on AS shows (just not hardcore butt-sex)

hehe.. Ep 20 with Ayame and Yuki was really funny, but I'm not sure if they will cut it because it's about crossdressing. I hope not; it was so funny!


On a side note ep 22 of Fruits Basket is out, or has been out a week or two now. :rolleyes:

Fatal Outlaw
13-04-02, 07:34 PM
hehe.. Ep 20 with Ayame and Yuki was really funny, but I'm not sure if they will cut it because it's about crossdressing. I hope not; it was so funny!

not in AS...they had men in drag in cowboy bebop

again, this doesnt neccesarily mean on CN, it can be shown in action channel for allwe know

Ronin Aquila
13-04-02, 08:18 PM
Remember folks, these are Funimation, the conservative hypocrites who murdered DBZ. Expect the worst. ;)

Fatal Outlaw
13-04-02, 10:14 PM
Originally posted by Ronin Aquila
Remember folks, these are Funimation, the conservative hypocrites who murdered DBZ. Expect the worst. ;)

oh come on. they didnt murder yyh, the dvd's were great and uncut (same with blue gender AND lupin III which is coming soon). they murdered dbz because saban told them too (for it to be aired on fox kids i think).

HOWEVER, if you're not in america, dont expect the uncut dvd's and videos. why? because they're making the edited videos there "mass market" productions (not sure about that, but im sure of that on yyh)

Ronin Aquila
14-04-02, 06:41 AM
Australia, after all, is still considered a desert by much of the uninformed American public. :mad: Damn stupid 1980's Paul Hogan "Shrimp on a barbie" commericials to hell!! :mad:

chieri_asuka
19-04-02, 10:55 AM
lol~ anyways...I only got one merchandise concerning FB and living in melbourne and in australia it's a good thing O_o....anyone inthe Fruity group at Yahoo Group? ^_^....I have so far read up to detailed summery of chapter 55 of the manga. O_O....

Chieri,

chieri_asuka
19-04-02, 11:06 AM
oh my goddess!TAMARKET got several things on fruits basket...I gotta buy those at Manifest ^_^.that is if I can wait.

.....

psst.....does anyone know where to get that FB phone hanger? I saw it and it's mega cute!!!!!!!!!

and I should have joined this thread ages ago. XD but I don't look in this forum so...~_~.


Chieri,

Takahashi
19-04-02, 03:07 PM
Originally posted by chieri_asuka
lol~ anyways...I only got one merchandise concerning FB and living in melbourne and in australia it's a good thing O_o....anyone inthe Fruity group at Yahoo Group? ^_^....I have so far read up to detailed summery of chapter 55 of the manga. O_O....

Chieri,
:eek2: :jdrop: Thats a lot:heh:.

Ronin Aquila
19-04-02, 08:14 PM
So, Chieri. Your avatar is what Yuki looks like in the manga, I presume? ;)

chieri_asuka
20-04-02, 08:28 AM
yup...but I will get a better picture of him XD I just couldn't decide which so I settled for this one instead the more 'fun' image.

If anyone wants to read or know where summeries are...go to http://www.randomfandom.com it tells a lot about where to go to read the summeries.


a lot of it at the Fruity Group at Yahoo group. please do join..even though there is already hundreads of people ^_^....

Chieri,

Ronin Aquila
25-04-02, 06:39 AM
Hands up who loves the Resident Evil/Blari Witch Project tribute that was Episode 18!! :kawaii:

ME!! :kawaii:

Takahashi
25-04-02, 07:13 AM
Originally posted by Ronin Aquila
Hands up who loves the Resident Evil/Blari Witch Project tribute that was Episode 18!! :kawaii:

ME!! :kawaii:
huh???:dodgy:
This is just a special about the ESP girl, she always carries around an eerie aura, pretty obvious that everybody is scared of her.

Ronin Aquila
25-04-02, 07:24 AM
But notice the documetary style that it was made in (Blair Witch project tribute) and the 3 minute tracking shot that explored Hanajima's house after the first ad break (Resident Evil). ;)

Also, don't you love it how the first Ad-Break almost severed Motoko's neck? :lol:

Takahashi
25-04-02, 07:31 AM
Been a long time since I saw episode 18(just took a glance to know what its about). I am not into the blair witch stuff, it isn't all that interresting, build on a lot of hype. Also I didn't like Resident evil stuff, so FB is fun to in a whole different way.

chieri_asuka
25-04-02, 11:59 AM
pity is that anime skipped too much...XD I haven't seen all anime episodes but from synopsis I can guess just how much they missed out....I went to one of the FB site called ": : Onigiri : :" not the one at Hizashi.net but the other one...I downlaoded the song that Momiji sings when they went to the Onsen! I loved it so much....but listening to it again it's so mega cute! XD...

Chieri,

Ronin Aquila
25-04-02, 12:24 PM
Hard to believe that kid is 15... :heh:

Svietnam
01-05-02, 04:13 PM
hahahaha..

4KU F4NSU85 did a fake comedy fansub of Fruits Basket 23. They purposely put in wrong subtitles! One of the lines read "those Furuba dicks are kicking our asses, we might as well quit subbing" and they even interwove porn into the episode to alter the story! It's outrageously funny, but very VERY risque. I don't want to say to much or I will spoil it.

-added--
Ok I am now sure what ep it is, but is some Fruits Basket ep. Also my file said AKF but in the video it said 4KU F4NSU85. Ehh Confusing!
--added some more---
I think it's ep 24.

On a side note the real episodes of Fruits Basket 23 and 24 are out. I think anime-fury, a-fury, did episode 23 and anime-rules did episode 24. Also I hear rumours that UTA, not sure what UTA stands for, will release ep 25-26 soon. Where is Furuba Fansubs?!

oppa
01-05-02, 07:38 PM
I can't find Furuba anywhere either.

UTA is UpTown Anime.

Ronin Aquila
01-05-02, 08:13 PM
Oh, by the way, Akito of Fruit Basket has officially replaced Altena of Noir as the most despicable villain of Anime. ;)

Svietnam
01-05-02, 09:22 PM
Originally posted by Ronin Aquila
Oh, by the way, Akito of Fruit Basket has officially replaced Altena of Noir as the most despicable villain of Anime. ;)

Akito is evil. I want to hurt him so very badly.

Ronin Aquila
01-05-02, 11:47 PM
Don't forget torturing him afterwards. :kawaii:

suzaku
02-05-02, 07:00 AM
:lol:

torture Akito

:lol:

Ronin Aquila
02-05-02, 08:53 AM
Don't go easy on him, or he might actually like it. ;)

chieri_asuka
02-05-02, 11:13 AM
*blink* I believe if things go as Shigure wishes or wants he did say "in the end Akito will be the one that will feel the ultimate pain" when he went to visit Hatori to give Tohru's valentines chocolate.Either that pain is how all the clan head has ended up previously and it is fate Akito will end up the same or he will have to bare a great emotional pain. I believe what ever Shigure is doing has to do with his dream....Only Shigure have kept the vow to do anything to acheive that dream or what ever they saw in the dream.

Akito is like..hmm...let's say a pawn in the game, just as everyone else is?who knows what spirits of zodiac animals are like? how they can defeated thus breaking curse?Tohru seems to the key, and so is Akito...well we will see??~?

Chieri,

Svietnam
02-05-02, 04:12 PM
Originally posted by chieri_asuka
*blink* I believe if things go as Shigure wishes or wants he did say "in the end Akito will be the one that will feel the ultimate pain" when he went to visit Hatori to give Tohru's valentines chocolate.Either that pain is how all the clan head has ended up previously and it is fate Akito will end up the same or he will have to bare a great emotional pain. I believe what ever Shigure is doing has to do with his dream....Only Shigure have kept the vow to do anything to acheive that dream or what ever they saw in the dream.

Akito is like..hmm...let's say a pawn in the game, just as everyone else is?who knows what spirits of zodiac animals are like? how they can defeated thus breaking curse?Tohru seems to the key, and so is Akito...well we will see??~?

Chieri,

Woah, I don't remember Shigure doing anything like that. Was this in ep 24 when they were talking on the balcony? Dream?

Shigure you are a smart sneaky devil you! It must be because he's a novelist.

chieri_asuka
02-05-02, 11:09 PM
~_~ I was tlaking about from manga not anime....He and Hatori was talking about the younger Sohmas.

Chieri,

bebop beatz
03-05-02, 08:59 PM
I saw the final eps this week. Just remember that in Anime, even the so called "Bad" people have very good reasons for being/doing what they are/do. And this is very true in Akito's situation.
I thought the creators did an outstanding job of demonstrating the consequences of family abuse, not only on the abused but the abuser as well. And the story was very true in tracking the heditary nature of abuse.
Fruits Basket truly is a tragicomedy, with some of the comedy so over the top I am still laughing about that bathroom scene that we never saw!
About Momiji, I realized after the episode he tells Honda-san about his family that he would be the perfect boyfriend for Edo from Cowboy Bebop. Oh yeah!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!They are perfect for each other.

Ronin Aquila
03-05-02, 10:10 PM
Now that you mentioned it, I've noticed that much of Shojo Tragicomedies (like Fruit Basket) have been heavily influenced by the very first tragicomedy, the surreal 1950 stage play Waiting For Godot , by Samuel Beckett.

Do take a read of it. Fair warning, it is long and repetitious. ;)

Svietnam
03-05-02, 11:13 PM
Originally posted by bebop beatz
I saw the final eps this week. Just remember that in Anime, even the so called "Bad" people have very good reasons for being/doing what they are/do. And this is very true in Akito's situation.
I thought the creators did an outstanding job of demonstrating the consequences of family abuse, not only on the abused but the abuser as well. And the story was very true in tracking the heditary nature of abuse.
Fruits Basket truly is a tragicomedy, with some of the comedy so over the top I am still laughing about that bathroom scene that we never saw!
About Momiji, I realized after the episode he tells Honda-san about his family that he would be the perfect boyfriend for Edo from Cowboy Bebop. Oh yeah!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!They are perfect for each other.

Wow... I hope they explain this all in the final episode.

Aghh! Akito! Watching episode 25 made further dispise Akito, I wanted to smash my monitor because of that vile nefarious despicable man! :mad2:

Gezzs... I need to stop watching 'Tragicomedies', these things are killing me. Watching poor Tohru in such a state was extremely heart wrenching. :bawling: Fruits Basket was supposed to be my 'pick-me-up' anime! I had no idea Fruits Basket was a Tragicomedy, but I suppose I had it coming. :rolleyes: I still love the show though; now it just has a little spice.


Chieri:
I think I know what the dream is now and what you ment when you said "Only Shigure have kept the vow to do anything to acheive that dream..." I really like Shigure, even more now. I feel he's doing something for the 'greather good', and as the saying goes, "Sometimes the medicine taste bad going down."

chieri_asuka
04-05-02, 03:07 AM
Well you are right, but he did say also that he will use anyone and anything without distiction(or specific concern) to do that.Shigure is loveable character if you rule out his pervertness.Hatori also said to him if the younger Sohmas found out that he will loose hell of a lot of things.Anime ends at manga vol 6, manga is no where near the middle yet I believe, considering the Rooster and Horse haven't showed up yet, even though entire fruity group(best furuba yahoo group) is suspecting it to be Rin Sohma(horse) and Kureno Sohma(Rooster).

Rin got viciously attacked by Akito because Haru-kun liked her so she ended upin hospital like Kisa.She looks cool though...like straight haired version of Hana-chan.Kureno kinda reminds me of Kazuma, but can be clumsy as Tohru and seems to have interest in Uo-chan.

In the last scanlation I was able to get of the Fruits basket it was chapter 26, Shigure hurried the trio(Kyo,Yuki and Tohru) and Hatori(since Hatori can drive) to a Sohma holiday house, mainly to drive his Editor mad. he left a note saying that he has gone on a small holiday and will beback soon etc...etc...and you have to see the face of the editor, and her friend is yelling through the phone saying that Shigure is only joking, and do not die..lol~ that was so funny.

Chieri,

Westlo
15-05-02, 08:38 AM
Saw episode one and i liked what i saw

Just curious how much fighting is in this anime, I know it's more of a comedy/drama from what I've heard but when someone can go through a roof like nothing somethings up.

cloakactive
16-05-02, 01:25 AM
In comparison to the fighting in Fushigi Yugi... I'd say not as much as that.

The fighting that takes place isn't random... it happens due to friction between characters... and if memory serves me correctly fighting does not happen in every episode.

Ronin Aquila
16-05-02, 04:47 AM
After seeing up to Episode 21 of Fruit Basket, a revelation dawned upon me.

The mightiest superheroes are not those who can destroy villains, but those who can save them.

Captain America and Son Goku may be able to mow down criminal scum by the hundreds, but there can be only so much that one can accomplish with violence.

Heroes driven by compassion, however, like Honda Tohru of Fruit Basket and Fujikata Hiroyuki of To Heart , however, can accomplish so much more. For they are capable of redeeming a seemingly lost individual with love, and the with that love the redeemed will go on to save others.

Hate may slow the inevitable horrors of the world, love will prevent it. :kawaii:

chieri_asuka
16-05-02, 08:09 AM
Sounds like Sailor Moon there,Aquila....

Anyways, in FB, the most best weapon to use is emotions. They seemed to have great control over the character's lives.

Chieri,

bluemist
16-05-02, 08:21 AM
I finished watching the whole Fruits Basket on TV, but I'm quite dissatisfied with the "hanging" ending. It seems that there re still a few Juunishi not introduced yet, and what does Hatori/Shigure mean by "searching for the one who will..."? It still seems that nothing has changed with the Souma clan, even if some of their problems are "purified" by our unsung hero Honda Tohru.

I know the manga isn't finished yet, and yet they leave it up to that... I like X-TV with its (quite) finished conclusion and still the CLAMP manga is ongoing.

I hate being angry about unfinished endings (Karekano, Fruits Basket), so in the case of Fruits Basket, don't they have at least a special, OVA or something?

cloakactive
16-05-02, 09:27 AM
The thing you have to remember is that Fruits Basket, like KareKano, is drawing its source form the manga... and the manga, in both cases, is still going... Hence the hanging ending.

As for OVA, I havne't heard word yet if one is coming... with the popularity of the show however, it is safe to assume that one may be produced sooner or later... maybe we'll be lucky and we'll just got another tv seasons worth of eps. :D

Ronin Aquila
16-05-02, 09:36 AM
Originally posted by chieri_asuka
Sounds like Sailor Moon there,Aquila....

Anyways, in FB, the most best weapon to use is emotions. They seemed to have great control over the character's lives.

Chieri,

I was thinking of people more like Ghandi and Jesus. Sure, I may not believe that the latter is my savior, but what he did was truly worthy of respect by anybody. :kawaii:

chieri_asuka
16-05-02, 09:05 PM
lol` yup that's the problem, that's why anime like SM ended up having so many 'filler' episodes to enable Naoko to work at fast pace but not to the point where she dies from exhaustion.

Anime ended at volume 6 of manga, Ritsu hasn't even shown up yet in that volume, he shows up later then that ~_~....Rin Sohma and Kureno Sohma haven't even appeared in that show...(yes I found it it's 'Sohma' not 'Souma' it said on one of the merchandise with name 'Yuki Sohma' on it...~_~)

I believe it is...but then hell I am only up to chapter 27 in scanlation, kindly provided by FURUBA project(*thanks ina-chan and merrow-chan!) but even inthe latest translation which is up to volume 9 it stilldoesn't make anything clearer about Older Jyuuniishi's motives and Akito's as well. When Akito came to Tohru's school he told Yuki to enjoy his senior high school years with an 'evil' smile. So wht eill happen? since they are still in year 11.Who knows,...no wait...more Tohru is like something like a game piece that is important to their quest..oh yeah...and Hatori seems like going to have anew g/f soon which is Mayuko(Tohru and co's main teacher) since she knew the thee mabudachi trio from her college days.

Oh well I hope Yuki ends up with Tohru...since Hatori looks like out of question for now...^_^;;

Chieri,

Amaterasu
17-05-02, 06:40 PM
Hrm..I've watched Ep 1-26 already and I kinda feel sorry for Akito.

*Eep! Don't hurt me* :(

chieri_asuka
17-05-02, 07:37 PM
but still that's no excuse to bash up young kids like Kisa or someone like Rin Sohma....even when Akito was younger he was still evil *shudders* he is only like 3 or 4 yers older then Yuki or even less, he locked poor Yuki in a dark room and beat him up with a whip or was it a stick? for long enough to make Yuki go into fear panic every time that is mentioned. I mean how much can you hit that someone young as kisa needs to go to hospital for her injuries(yes she was hospitalised for days and days for the injuries)?

Untill he changes his ways or something I am not sure I will change my opinion of him.....*shudders* so evil...more evil and twisted....

Chieri,

Takahashi
17-05-02, 09:26 PM
I have to agree, I don't get episode 26 either, even if he is going to(you know), doesn't give him the right to go out and torture others physically and mentally, just look at Yuki even though the physical abuse is gone, the pain is still fresh in his memories. Also what he did to Hatori is just unforgiveable and that was for his reasoning the "best" solution, eventhough the girl already know about their curse and still loves Hatori. Though they try the usual Honda Tohru "I know what its like" approach, it just didn't seem appropriate(or right) and irritates the hell out of me this one time only.

Amaterasu
17-05-02, 10:31 PM
I dunno. Episode 26 kinda made me understand a little bit more about the story (I've been told that the Manga is a lot longer). I guess I see Honda Tohru's point of view which makes me sympathize for Akito.

At first, I hated Akito, but then...I guess I started to feel sorry for him. I dunno, being destined and to know that you're going to die so quickly does make you sour; makes you wonder "Why me?"


But you are right, it doesn't give the right for anyone to hurt another. Ah..what heck...Down with Akito!!

^FallenAngel^
20-05-02, 02:24 AM
Why does Akito have to die?? Is he really sick or something....??

I heard that....
Honda finally choose Kyou in da end?? true?:confused:

suzaku
20-05-02, 03:30 AM
well...i've saw some screen shots but it could be true that Honda choose Kyou

i really need to get more eps.

Amaterasu
20-05-02, 11:26 AM
I don't think Tohru chose Kyou. It was more of a strong friendship bond thing. You know how Honda cherishes her friends, ne? I don't want to spoil it for anyone who hasn't seen Ep 26. :( If I was Honda Tohru, I wouldn't be able to choose between Yuki and Kyou both of them have their strong points.

From what I heard, In order for the people who are cursed to live, Akito has to die. (Something like that) That's why he's so sour.

suzaku
20-05-02, 10:23 PM
you've got a good point there ^^

oh well...i really need to get more eps!

^FallenAngel^
20-05-02, 11:18 PM
oic... i feel sorry for Akito... knowing that yourself have to die... *sighs*
So Akito is just a normal human being???

I don't think Honda can really choose btw Yuki and Kyou... both of them need her!!! It's really hard to choose btw them anyway... if i were her, i won't be able to... besides Honda's too thick about these kind of things to realise it anyway...

Amaterasu
20-05-02, 11:43 PM
Hence why I felt sorry for Akito, but it is true. He has no reason to beat up on people and play with Tohru's emotions.

Akito is a normal human being, just destined to die.

^FallenAngel^
22-05-02, 01:45 AM
Thanks for that Amaterasu!

From what I've seen Shigure's abit cheeky as well.. he seem to be plotting something... but he's funny as !! hehe... :lol:

chieri_asuka
22-05-02, 05:55 AM
>.>....It could be Kyou currently, considering the volume 9, which is where Tohru sees Kyou in his true form and all.Volume 9 is coming out takenboun in june.So far Kyou is already showing his feelings to Tohru but I think she considers him as big brother kinda thing, a best guy friend or what ever you think. After all he has Kugura to still fall back on. XD....Even though Kugura knows that Kyou likes Tohru >.>.

So I will cry if it's not Yuki who ends up with her! ^^;;

Chieri,

Amaterasu
22-05-02, 10:53 AM
I was actually going to ask about Shigure. I was rewatching Fruits Basket out of boredom and I was noticing how Shigure tries to "plot" things. Is he by chance related to Akito? Does he have anything against Akito? He seems to be the one reporting things to Akito. Hrm...Anyone got more info on Shigure from the manga?:confused2

JadeFire
23-05-02, 12:45 AM
Originally posted by bluemist
I finished watching the whole Fruits Basket on TV, but I'm quite dissatisfied with the "hanging" ending. It seems that there re still a few Juunishi not introduced yet, and what does Hatori/Shigure mean by "searching for the one who will..."? It still seems that nothing has changed with the Souma clan, even if some of their problems are "purified" by our unsung hero Honda Tohru.

I know the manga isn't finished yet, and yet they leave it up to that... I like X-TV with its (quite) finished conclusion and still the CLAMP manga is ongoing.

I hate being angry about unfinished endings (Karekano, Fruits Basket), so in the case of Fruits Basket, don't they have at least a special, OVA or something?

Yes it was a bit of a 'hanging ending' but it wasn't one of those annoyingly rushed endings which I hate all the more, and you can't even really compare FB to Kare Kano's ending, which is the omega hanging ending above all hanging endings. For some background information, yes the manga is ongoing and FB was VOTED INTO BECOMING AN ANIME... (wants people to see that, thus why typed in caps) the manga was so huge in Japan, and people practically screamed and swarmed the streets (mild exaggeration) for an animated version, and thus the anime caught up with the manga much too swiftly. However... I do believe it was well done, and it ended on a good point and it sorta left me feeling that even if it did 'hang' a bit, it said all that needed to be said. It left me more than a little wet in the eyes, and left a certain calm and understanding as well.

As for Akito... lots of good statements/opinions going around on that topic... I do feel sorry for him and from his viewpoint he has to be blaming all the cursed members for his illness. With people with cancer and such they usually receive it later in life, and who do they blame? Its not like there really is anyone to blame. With his situation he can point plenty of fingers, though it would be wrong he still could.... And who better to blame, the most fortunate of the Juunishi but the most fortunate... Yuki the rat...making his life (Yuki's) miserable and comparable to many of the trials the other members have faced.

Egads that seris is so great *.*

Oh... and what other really good anime tragicomedys can people recommend out of curiousity?

chieri_asuka
23-05-02, 07:33 PM
still, illness or knowing you are going to die isn't an excuse to leave everyone so scarred. Rin Sohma has this huge whip scar I think down her back.O_o....Hatori is nearly blind, Yuki been beaten hell of a lot, with his own parents not helping either or his brother.Kisa got hospitalised like Rin as a result of Akito's violence and Kisa is only 12.Kyou, oh, if things go the way that Akito wants he will be locked up for rest of his life in the dark room untill he dies.At least he could make it easier for them, Akito has been evil even when he was younger.

He told Yuki that he shouldn't expect anyone to pull him out of the darkness that he lives in, that noone will ever help him etc.and Akito looked like barely 14? And some of the parents of the Jyuuniishi is helping much either, like Yuki's parents, Kyou's father, Momiji's mother etc. Akito either change his personality and show sympathy for the pains that members of Jyuuniishi recieved in his hand or actually change his personality.

Yes, we all know he is destined to die early, but still all those violence and pain is unnecessary. I mean because you couldn't do something, or get something, would you go and beat up somebody who could?

same thing, If he is to have any sympathy from me, he has to change his ways.At elast stop being violent.

Chieri,

chieri_asuka
23-05-02, 07:40 PM
oh yeah about Shigure,


He is doing things to achieve his dream, that he dreamt one night when he was young.He is using anyone, and anything to do so, including Akito. Only it seems that Hatori knows what he is doing. he said that "...I'll use tools without distinction, I will use anyone and anything to achieve my dream...' something like that.I can't remember his exact words, but was something similar to those words. Hatori said to afterwards, that he should be careful, if Yuki, or Kyou or Tohru or anyone else finds out about his plan he should be prepared to be knocked back(aka meaning bare the consenquences). We do not know that what the dream is exactly is yet, but he did say it is something to do with something they all loved most and more.So there you, that's so far, we have to wait till next chapters start being translated....(aka volume 10 XP)

Chieri

Amaterasu
23-05-02, 08:13 PM
Thanks for the info! That does explain a lot. And, he seems so nice too. :( Now I really should get the manga and get them translated. :)

^FallenAngel^
24-05-02, 01:32 AM
I just finished all 26 eps... and i have to say, the ending is different from vol 8!!
I found the ending especially Honda visiting Akito was rather suprising.... and also when Shigure helped to control Akito!! hehe... it was sweet of him to do so though!! :)

I'm just wondering, why did Hana chan let Honda go like that?? Her other friend was going to hug Honda, but Hana chan pushed her away... that was rather weird.... :confused:

Takahashi
24-05-02, 02:48 AM
Hana has these ESP power and a very powerfull sixth sense, also she could talk to the spirit world from what I can make out in the last episode. Something tells her that they should not hold Tohru back and that Tohru is needed elsewhere.

Ronin Aquila
24-05-02, 09:16 AM
What!?!? :eek:

He hospitalised Kisa-Chan!?!? :bawling:

I'm gonna so f^ck him up with my muthaluvin Samurai Sword!!!! :ssj:

Angel Akane
24-05-02, 11:56 PM
Well..I've heard of Fruits Basket. The title sounded funny enough. But what is it about though?

chieri_asuka
24-05-02, 11:57 PM
yup, it's in the Heero's flash back in manga, where visits her in the hospital bed with one side of her face all covered with patches etc. Like those things they out on you if you been burned or heavily bleeding. ~_~.... It looked rather horrible on a kid like her. I jsut love Kisa-chan she is so kawaii!

Chieri,

Ronin Aquila
25-05-02, 07:29 AM
She's so innocent and yet so regrettaly sad, you just wanna hug her and protect her!! :bawling: :kawaii:

chieri_asuka
25-05-02, 07:45 AM
ahhh you are new to Fruits Basket? well welcome to another great series that will make you cry, laugh so hard etc. Actually that title 'Fruits Basket' has a meaning, rather a sad thing actually.

Well I won't spoil it, but it has to do with Tohru and when she was young.

A lot of the character are like actors, each has their own problem, some are scarreed for life because of particular events in the past. But because of our darling Tohru ^^(who also has her own family problem and problems in life) Sohma clan is changing in some ways.


Did that sound cliche? oh well it's a complicated story that's kinda inthe middle of things in manga. Anime series finished at vol. 8?

p.s everyone listen to 'Edward Scissorhands' 'Grand Finale' it is such a beautifulsong, I start listening to it after watching this Furuba music video.

Chieri,

^FallenAngel^
25-05-02, 08:12 AM
I found Tohru abit tooo stupid! She's too nice and thick!!
It's rare to find a girl in this world like that... i guess that's what anime is... fantasy!!

Manga don't stop at vol 8.. it's still going... slowly though!
But the end of anime ep 26 is around the end of vol 8(manga)! =)
and there is only 8 vols at the moment... i think!

Hey chieri_asuka, what song are these 'Edward Scissorhands' 'Grand Finale' ?

chieri_asuka
26-05-02, 07:06 AM
:D ahh you can't say that! who knows?? we haven't met everyone on the planet!But Tohru does have her own feelings, it just that she doesn't show it easily.Like when the other three went to Honke for new year, she send them away with smiles and all but when Yuki and Kyou came back for her, after talking to Hana-chan she was crying with her mother's photo in front of her(and she hardly ever let anyone see her cry because of her own problems and feelings).Plus because this series so focused on Sohma family a lot, we kinda forget her own family has lots of problems them selves.It's portrayal modern Asian society.

Ahh volume 10 is already on Hana to Yume and Vol 9 coming out as Tenkenboun June(aka next month sometime)

anyways it's the music 'Grand Finale' from Edward Scissorhands movie. it's so beautiful! kinda reminds you of snow winter scene!, memory bit like that Furuba music video, from anime music video site!

Chieri,

^FallenAngel^
27-05-02, 02:07 AM
Originally posted by chieri_asuka
:D ahh you can't say that! who knows?? we haven't met everyone on the planet!

I guess... haven't met everyone in da world yet!! hehee.... she's just too nice...


Ahh volume 10 is already on Hana to Yume and Vol 9 coming out as Tenkenboun June(aka next month sometime)
Coolies, can't wait til vol 9!!


anyways it's the music 'Grand Finale' from Edward Scissorhands movie. it's so beautiful! kinda reminds you of snow winter scene!, memory bit like that Furuba music video, from anime music video site!

Furuba's the same as Bakamx isn't it?
I really like Bakamx's translations! cos they got good graphics!!

Westlo
27-05-02, 09:35 AM
another question

does the ending of fruits basket leave it open for a sequel?

Since i believe their is more manga being made

and did Furaba finish subbing it?

Siberian
27-05-02, 02:40 PM
I actually just bought this anime! Well I only have the first 13 episodes so far *sniffy all they had on ebay* but so far its awesome!!! It is one of my favorite animes!!!

JadeFire
28-05-02, 07:37 AM
Originally posted by chieri_asuka
still, illness or knowing you are going to die isn't an excuse to leave everyone so scarred. Rin Sohma has this huge whip scar I think down her back.O_o....Hatori is nearly blind, Yuki been beaten hell of a lot, with his own parents not helping either or his brother.Kisa got hospitalised like Rin as a result of Akito's violence and Kisa is only 12.Kyou, oh, if things go the way that Akito wants he will be locked up for rest of his life in the dark room untill he dies.At least he could make it easier for them, Akito has been evil even when he was younger.

He told Yuki that he shouldn't expect anyone to pull him out of the darkness that he lives in, that noone will ever help him etc.and Akito looked like barely 14? And some of the parents of the Jyuuniishi is helping much either, like Yuki's parents, Kyou's father, Momiji's mother etc. Akito either change his personality and show sympathy for the pains that members of Jyuuniishi recieved in his hand or actually change his personality.

Yes, we all know he is destined to die early, but still all those violence and pain is unnecessary. I mean because you couldn't do something, or get something, would you go and beat up somebody who could?

same thing, If he is to have any sympathy from me, he has to change his ways.At elast stop being violent.

Chieri,

I think you misunderstand, just because I have some sympathy for someone doesn't mean I like them. I don't like him, maybe even hate him, but on some level I sorta see how some things came about. Trust me... I could tell you the exact words I used at almost every single one of his appearances (flashback or otherwise) during the series, but it'd be way too many profanities. I don't believe in using people as punching bags, although we all do it, even me, I sure don't do so on a physical level. Also if you like fruits basket AMV's, you should try one with the song summoning of the muse by dead can dance, its really great, but is definitely a huge spoiler one.

Svietnam
28-05-02, 01:01 PM
Originally posted by Westlo
another question

does the ending of fruits basket leave it open for a sequel?

Since i believe their is more manga being made

and did Furaba finish subbing it?

The end does leave it open for a sequel.

I am not sure if Furuba finished subbing, I have heard rumors that they are on ep 23. I wish I knew more :(

Svietnam
28-05-02, 01:09 PM
Originally posted by ^FallenAngel^


Furuba's the same as Bakamx isn't it?
I really like Bakamx's translations! cos they got good graphics!! [/B]


I doubt it is the whole BakaMX team, many of their members are strongly against subbing licensed anime. Furuba *might* be composed of a few rouge members or helped by a few rouge members. I doubt BakaMX would publicly admint to any of this. Yet, the similarity in the wording style of BakaMX and Furuba are certainly profound at times.

^FallenAngel^
28-05-02, 11:24 PM
I guess so Svietnam. What would happen to these who subbs anime even though the anime is licenesed? Do they get sued or what??? :confused:

Svietnam
29-05-02, 01:30 AM
Originally posted by ^FallenAngel^
I guess so Svietnam. What would happen to these who subbs anime even though the anime is licenesed? Do they get sued or what??? :confused:

Nothing really major happens. It's just considered a 'violation' of 'fansuber ethics', notice I used quotations. (Fansubbing has been considered a 'grey' area and many people feel differently about fansubbing. Notice: If anyone wants to start an argument with my statement please don't. It would take too long and I really don't want to start a huge discussion about fansubbing legality, ethics, and all that mess. It has been done too many times and there are already threads on this very topic. I just wished to answer ^FallenAngel^’s question as best as I could. If anyone wants to know my stance on fansubbing just private message me instead.) Other groups may look down at such groups, and certain severs may no longer host them. A good example is Akufansubs; they used to be on the 'enterthegame' IRC server but got booted off for fansubbing licensed anime. Both copyright holders, the original Japanese company and the company that licensed the anime, can technically try to stop a group from subbing ‘their’ anime by using legal means. Legal means such as lawsuits or criminal cases against the fansubbers host, fansubbers distributors, or the fansubbers themselves. This is a very 'grey' area. In general Japanese studios don't care or think it's kind of neat if a group fansubs their works. Imitating or making derivative anime or manga works is a common and accepted practice in Japan. On the other hand, most companies that license an anime or manga title try to stop fansubbers. They most likely try to stop fansubbers because they feel if the fansubs are available then people may not buy their products when it comes out. This was just some very general information, but I hope it was helpful.


Disclaimer: Once again if I left something out please don’t flame me or start a huge argument off topic. I know some people feel very strongly about this issue and I respect their opinion.

chieri_asuka
29-05-02, 07:58 AM
O_o...Furuba project is manga scanlating group...not anime...to get the manga in english officially is going to take eons.So I am so a happy camper to read their scanlations.:D....

I am not suppose to post about stuff like that so...I didn't say much about it ^^;;..this is clear...'Furuba project' is not a fansubbing group just a manga scanlating group.

Chieri.

Westlo
29-05-02, 10:19 AM
Furuba were also a fansubbing group

They are probably different groups, just with the same name^^

^FallenAngel^
29-05-02, 09:16 PM
I personally don't mind those fansubs.. cos without them I won't even be able to watch any animes!! =)

Even if they sub it, there's always the Internet where everyone download it... so really, the company can't do anything anyway!
You just can't really stop people from downloading mp3s or eps online.... so I really don't see much big deals about these kind of things.... I guess when it really comes down to it, it's ur own morality and ethics!! :(

mistress bunny
06-06-02, 11:45 AM
*just stopped reading the previous post (1-3)*

errr ... i'm a total newbie to this forum

i bought the artbook and the drawing kinda reminds me of utena. just wonderin' if they are any official plans to release this series in the US?

Ronin Aquila
07-06-02, 02:46 AM
Fansub is the heart that keeps the body of anime fandom alive. ;)

chieri_asuka
08-06-02, 06:40 AM
lol you meant he character book? there is no art book out as I know so far.

No! Utena style and FB style is totally different! Utena manga style is definitly more older, and softer style then Fruits basket. Utena belongs to Old school manga ka which includes, CLAMP, Naoko Takeuchi, Watase Yuu etc...


:D...

Chieri,

mistress bunny
08-06-02, 01:19 PM
Originally posted by chieri_asuka
lol you meant he character book? there is no art book out as I know so far.

No! Utena style and FB style is totally different! Utena manga style is definitly more older, and softer style then Fruits basket. Utena belongs to Old school manga ka which includes, CLAMP, Naoko Takeuchi, Watase Yuu etc...


:D...

Chieri,

*scratches her head*.... IT is the character book (typing mistake).
:heh:
i've seen the first 4 eps (fansubbed) and i like it so far.

Dastafarin
13-06-02, 04:40 PM
Well I finished the first 2 eps of it. Am going to download more soon.

So far it's a fairly interesting series. I was ready to just give up on it until the big transformation near the end of episode 1 which made it much more interesting. I am not to fond of the art style used, it is a bit too childish for my liking, but I can still bear it. The show itself reminds me a bit of Ranma with the changing characters but that is about it.

Also, I am going to venture to guess a liking of Neko-san by Honda, maybe a romance, I'm not sure yet. I see it steering in that direction.

chieri_asuka
14-06-02, 12:01 AM
lol~ no romance of who will Tohru will choose is hinted yet, I haven't seen the scans for chapter 57 and onwards, but distinvely, it's neither Kyou or Yuki.But I must point out one thing, Kyou will have some one to fall back on and we all know that is Kagura but Yuki doesn't ^^(yes I am Yuki fan! for once I like a main male character)

But I must say, it's freaky when you watch ep.8 because Tohru reminds me a lot of Kana.And their reaction to Hatori's form is hilarious, and sad for Hatori at the same time because their reaction was exactly the same and that reminded him of Kana. ~_~ geez I am spoiling everything. but you should read manga scanlations, chapter 28 is up at Furuba Project. I mean for goddess's sake, Ayame doesn't even appear till volume 4 ~_~...and they put him in anime in ep 1? can't remember clearly.

And they missed out, Rin and Kureno Sohma too ^^;;, in fact the anime missed out on volume and volumes of details. since manga is still in middle of everything. I think They should have waited a little to make anime.I wouldn't like it to be like SM trying using filler episodes(not that anime story line is not like manga like 97% for SM) whilst Naoko trying to finish all the 18 volumes.~_~

There is no hint from Tohru that she likes particular person, apart from her best friends and her deceased mum. I think Rin would have looked cool like a rock and roll style girl, much as dress sense like Haru(and yes he usually wears one of the coolst style around).

Oh well I better go and check for a scan of first chapter of volume 10 :D...ahh you gotta love Fruity ML ^^ the best resource for Fruits basket translations, scanlations, scans etc...

Chieri,

ps. and they made Yuki's eye violet! it suppose to be light grey! and made Hatori's eyes light brown! wah...it was wonderful ultramarine blue!

chieri_asuka
14-06-02, 01:38 AM
OH MY GODDESS!

I just read the translation for chapter 58 for manga! oh my goddess is very right. get ready for spoilers~ and a little disappointment for Kyou fans ~_~


Yuki was the child who gave that red cap to Tohru when she was lost, running from bullies(yes her own home wasn't even safe enough, without her mom that is, so she ran and ran) and ta da! a boy helped her get back home and it that mysterious boy was Yuki!! *_* and the conversation between Yuki and Tohru is so sweet... he evengave her a kiss on her forehead! since they can't kiss on the lips ~_~;; I think he had tranform into his rat form ^^ if he did that.

and Tohru said to her friend that that mysterious boy who gave her the cap was her first love, even though she never thought about it that way at all when she was a child.


yay!!! go Yuki and Tohru!! though I must say if Hatori was younger or Tohru was older by at least 4 or 5 years, she would have been a good pairing with Hatori too ^^...oh yeah and Akito is jsut same old sick psycho we all know ^^;;.Even though I must say, him saying he needs someone like Yuki does Tohru, but still he is so sickly violent young man.He may find someone else besides Yuki to wanting(yes he is selfish and all greedy about particular people) I hope so he can leave Yuki and Tohru alone ^^:;

Chieri,

Westlo
14-06-02, 12:20 PM
Originally posted by Dastafarin
Well I finished the first 2 eps of it. Am going to download more soon.

So far it's a fairly interesting series. I was ready to just give up on it until the big transformation near the end of episode 1 which made it much more interesting. I am not to fond of the art style used, it is a bit too childish for my liking, but I can still bear it. The show itself reminds me a bit of Ranma with the changing characters but that is about it.

Also, I am going to venture to guess a liking of Neko-san by Honda, maybe a romance, I'm not sure yet. I see it steering in that direction.

Yeah that changing scene at the end made me alot more interested in it. I don't mind the animation style, it's different.

BTW if you want a Fruits Basket forum click Here (http://animeboards.com/t42097/s.html)

mistress bunny
25-06-02, 10:27 AM
cubanx, one of the guys at AoD community forum, provided this great news:

http://www.cdnow.com/cgi-bin/mserver/SID=1322515644/pagename=/RP/MOVIES/mv_item.html/itemid=1574010

no words from funimation yet but i'm definitely looking forward to get this mega-cool series

Westlo
25-06-02, 10:55 AM
Yeah I read that too, quite a quick release by Funimation and it sould show anime fans that Funimation are serious about anime now.

Fatal Outlaw
25-06-02, 11:58 PM
Originally posted by Westlo
Yeah I read that too, quite a quick release by Funimation and it sould show anime fans that Funimation are serious about anime now.
thats true, releasing Fruits Basket in a great manner by Funi will definatly put them on the map

Fatal Outlaw
28-06-02, 11:32 PM
its just been confirmed by funimation that FB will indeed be released on 10/29. the disc will retail for $39.99 and will have 6 episodes. it'll be a 5 disc set.

only gripe is...$40 is a real rip-off for 6 episodes...i guess i can get it for $30 at the anime specialty store...well as long as Funimation pack in a lot of extras, ill be happy :)

mistress bunny
29-06-02, 01:05 AM
almost US$40.00...that's a golden price...oh well, i hope Funimation will add some high quality interactive menus or more extra features in it. Or maybe at least a mini-pencil board or even a mini-figurine in each volume. We can all dream about it. (can we?):D

Drizzten
14-07-02, 07:50 AM
All I can say is "Thank You."

Thank you, YellerCrakka, for showing me the first 19 episodes of this anime. It alone made the trip to California worth it. I can't wait to check out the DVDs when they come out.

Kayay
14-07-02, 03:30 PM
Fiarybane had been poking me recently to watch the 4 eps Yeller gave me the time the trio terriorized me up here -- or was it the other way around --- but, being the terrible procrastinator i am, i never did. Thankfully I too got to watch that Fruits Basket marathon. I adored it.

Send the CDs soon Yeller, or I'll have to not very nice things to you.

chieri_asuka
14-07-02, 07:04 PM
is that price US $40.00???? oh my goddess!

shesh! I can imagine the price on australian maket! arghhhh this is totally stupid...I hope Australian ones are better when they come out ^^. Do you know any 'official' sub titled version?

Kat,