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Vandread
18-03-02, 03:20 PM
I just experienced the end of Saber and well it was profound. The ending left me feeling kind of sad you know. All the pain and sorrow Otaru, Lime, Cherry, and Bloodberry went through really put tears in my eyes as I saw everything come to a close. I was left breathless at the final moments and awed at the meaning of the show.

SMJ was th first anime I watched after I grew tired of Tenchi's antics( will he ever choose a girl?) It left a joyful feeling in my heart as I couldn't wait to see the next volume. The awakening of the marionettes to real human emotions and the pain all the characters faced gave me some thing to relate to. I still remember cheering the Marionettes on as they fought to rescue Loreli at the end of the first series. Tears ran down my face as Lime struggled to avert the fate of her dear friend Marine. But I'll never forget that painfully bitter part in J to X when Lime realized that Otaru could never be hers because he is human and will die someday while Lime would remain alive. That part really got to me. My heart ached as I saw Lime try desperately to become human so she could finally be with Otaru. The one who she love more than life. I guess I prayed too that she would realize her wish the way that she wanted to. That's why I was was so shocked at the ending. I felt sad, happy, and angry all at the same time. I know that Bloodberry and Cherry loved Otaru too and that it's hard to imagine either of the Marionettes giving up Otaru to only one of them, but I got the impression through the show that it was quite clear that it was Lime who was destined to be with Otaru. I could see the others moving on but the chemistry between Otaru and Lime was done wonderfully. That's why I got so angry when at the end they were reborn as children and Otaru became their Father. I thought that Lime and Otaru would be together. But that's not the way things turned out. I could see the beauty in the ending as Otarus love turned into something deeper as he cared for Lime, Cherry, and Bloodberry as his own children. Their antics in the final episode made me smile and remember all the good times I have had with the cast. But I felt some what incomplete as I listened to the end song. But as I thought of it more I realized that SMJ's lesson taught me to look at life a little more differently. I now try to understnd others as well as give my all in everything that I do. SMJ has left a positive impact on my life as a person and human being. If a show can do that then it's...well...great:)

Though I'm still a bit disatisfied with the ending I accept it as the end of SMJ. Since it was the second anime series I had seen it holds a special place in my heart. I'll always love the characters and what they represent. Good- Bye Saber Marionette J. I'll never forget...

The Sandman
18-03-02, 10:17 PM
You know something... I had the same felling as you did after all the trouble they passed none got to stay with Otaru (as someone more close) and they will never, cause Otaru will be too old and he will die first.
But if you look at the bright side, now they are perfect human beings, and now they can choose who ever they want to love and not the program in the maiden circuit. Even though Otaru took good care of them, it was the program who put them in love with him, cause he was the first one they saw.
Anyway, I fell sad about that but it was an unexpected ending, making the series very interesting. Thought I still prefere Saber marionette J.
So here's my good-bye:wavey: to SMJ and SMJ-X
it was nice while it lasted... hehe

Vandread
19-03-02, 12:41 AM
Yes I agree with you there Sandman. The maiden circuits did make the marionettes fall in love with Otaru. I saw this mostly in Bloodberry and Cherry throughout the series. However, Lime's development was the most profound. I think that her love for Otaru went past the programing. I saw Lime mature in both mentality and in her love for Otaru. It's like what she said when Marine questioned Lime on why she loves Otaru. Lime said that she loved Otaru for who he was as a person and was alot happier when they were together. To me that sounds like real love and not something that the maiden circuit made happen.

Call me a romantic if you will but I just wanted to see a Otaru/Lime ending for J to X. We sort of get one in the Graphic novels of SMJ but it's not what I really wanted to see. I know that in the Graphic Novels that the Marionettes stay as androids and do not turn human. In the final pages we see Otaru as an old man sitting on a bench looking at a bunch of children playing with Lime next to him. We don't see Bloodberry or Cherry anywhere in these final pages, just Lime and Otaru. Lime asks Otaru if he's happy and Otaru says that he is. That's sort of romantic in a way:) *I thank Hanami's Saber Marionette World for the info:)*

I'm a big fan of SMJ and always will be. Please don't be shy everyone. I want to know everyone's thoughts on the end of SMJ. I was surprised when I found out there was another ending. Though it still didn't quench my SMJ thirst. Please everyone share with me you thoughts on all of this. Thanks:)

The Sandman
19-03-02, 10:00 PM
First of all
*I thank Hanami's Saber Marionette World for the info*
I love that site too !
I think it's the one with the most information !


About that Otaru/Lime, look I respect your opinion but personally I don't like it, because I think it's not fair. Ok, she is the main marionette between them all but that doesn't mean she has to end with him. It's as if you were induced to see him staying forever with her. I prefer the element of surprise. I would like to see what would happen if he choose Cherry or Bloodberry, but that didn't happend, in fact none of this happend, making this series the ultimate surprise.

My kind of series !

Anyway, that's my opinion but I would have liked more if he chooses someone...

Vandread
20-03-02, 12:28 AM
It is THE best SMJ site there is:) I respect your opinion as well. I personally like a surprise ending from time to time. Believe you me SMJ to X's ending surprised the heck out of me. I never expected that to happen!! But SMJ has a deeper meaning and I think that's why it ended the way that it did. It was meant to teach a lesson about life in general. That's why I have grown to accept the ending.

I don't know but I just didn't expect it to all end like that. I thought that they would end it open ended like so many other animes. I loved the way Otaru accepted them as his children at the end and how they all tried to make him that present. It was so cute and touching. My heart felt pain and happiness as I watched it. I realized that things would never be the same in SMJ world. No more crazy antics or adventures. No more Love Comedy or Drama. I'm really going to miss SMJ. It is my favorite anime series.

Thanks for your replies Sandman. I finally got someone elses opinion on SMJ to X. It's better if you talk to others about anime. It helps you bring everything into focus. I want to hear others opinions on the ending. Please everyone share your thoughts. Thanks Again:)

Vandread
20-03-02, 12:31 AM
By the way does anyone know where to find good SMJ fan fic. I've been to FanFic.net but they have way to much Otaru/Hanagata fics:eek: Help me out everyone. Thanks

The Sandman
21-03-02, 10:30 PM
Originally posted by Vandread

Thanks for your replies Sandman. I finally got someone elses opinion on SMJ to X. It's better if you talk to others about anime. It helps you bring everything into focus. I want to hear others opinions on the ending. Please everyone share your thoughts. Thanks Again:)

Your welcome, we are here to get all the opinions we can get !

Steathassasn
29-03-02, 11:19 AM
:: hands van boy a clean ex:: its ok ...you know theres always the hentai, manga, and fan fics to keep you entertained..:lol:

Vandread
29-03-02, 12:38 PM
Yeah....but it's not the same:)

SMJ hentai is not my thing.
I love the characters too much to look that stuff up.

lalenalefay
01-07-02, 12:50 PM
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Reitsuki
05-03-03, 04:46 AM
otaru and the marionettes had a very deep, loving relationship, but the romance the marionettes feel for otaru isn't exactly requited. He loves them dearly, but he doesn't fantasize about kissing them, he just wants to make them happy. There was always a huge father/daughter element to their relationship.

I could not have summed it up better myself. Though there is a more pure love relationship between Lime and Otaru, if you stop and think about it, Otaru treated them more as a father would his daughers than a man would his wife. He didn't expect much out of them and RAISED them with love in SMJ, teaching them the lessons of life. I thought the ending was quite fitting.

Kamakassee
25-06-03, 01:16 AM
I agree with Reitsuki the ending is very fitting for the series and it is probably the best way to give closure to the relationship. This is due to the fact that we know that Otaru is incapable of chosing one of them and by transforming his teaching and nurturing role into that of a father there isnt much of a change in the nature of their relationship.

Gunblade
15-09-03, 09:25 PM
Late reply I suppose...
Anyway just finished watching all the episodes of all from the boxset :)

Now when he shouts out who he'd pick is that suppose to be completely unknown or did the director/writer/creator have an idea in mind who it actually was.

I just knew I wouldn't get to hear the name he'd shout out and that's always annoying.

The ending was ok but as stated by others they have lost all their memories and are now only kids.

It makes me wonder what happened right as the ship exploded, what went through their minds etc. Well still it's a rather strange ending.

Might have to check out the manga but at the same time I can't be bothered buying all those mangas which might be the same as the anime except with a different ending.

And saying that the end of the manga doesn't really sound like much if you see one scene of Otaru as an old man with only Lime and no Cherry or Bloodberry. I always want to know what happens to the characters at the end :)