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Steathassasn
26-03-02, 08:20 PM
before i shill out the money i would like you know anyones thoughts on this anime...i heard that some one was bring it over...if thats the case then ill wait for it ..

still i want some feed back on this ..k

Fatal Outlaw
26-03-02, 09:30 PM
Originally posted by Steathassasn
before i shill out the money i would like you know anyones thoughts on this anime...i heard that some one was bring it over...if thats the case then ill wait for it ..

still i want some feed back on this ..k
yes, tokyopop is releasing the series, expect initial d to be on tv by the end of the year (tokyopop has been talking to networks who are willing to show initial d, which is most likely cn). well, i heard initial d was pretty awesome, kinda liek a hybrid of Speed Racer and Fast and the furious. if tokyopop takes too long to release the first volume of the series, then i might grab the hk dvd version

Rally
26-03-02, 09:43 PM
If you love speed and cars, grab it now! :D

orochi X
26-03-02, 11:06 PM
Initial D is a great watch if you love cars and speed as Rally says.

Theres 3 series

Initial D First Stage
" " Second Stage
" " Third Stage

And i think theres a movie aswell

BathingK9999
27-03-02, 01:28 AM
It is an excellent manga (depth-wise and story-wise, although imo a bit lacking in detail of drawing). It is about people who street race Japanese cars (RX-7, Nissan GTR, etc...) and focuses on Takumi, who uses an 86 (old Corolla, supposedly, manual). It gets extremely technical at times(techniques for drifting ie: time to change gears, step on brake, pull hand-brake, steer, etc) and if you are into the technical information that they throw at you (which I am), then it is awesome.
However, it is lighthearted and humorious between races so it does give you a break.
Some people almost treat it as a racing bible (not sure but I have actually heard that somewhere)...

^FallenAngel^
27-03-02, 06:10 AM
Originally posted by orochi X
Initial D is a great watch if you love cars and speed as Rally says.

Theres 3 series

Initial D First Stage
" " Second Stage
" " Third Stage

And i think theres a movie aswell

Yeah there's a movie... an extra stage!! it's all about the girls who drives Impact Blue.... such a nice car!!

Takahashi
27-03-02, 07:17 AM
Originally posted by orochi X
Initial D is a great watch if you love cars and speed as Rally says.

Theres 3 series

Initial D First Stage
" " Second Stage
" " Third Stage

And i think theres a movie aswell
Sorry if I offend anybody, but this need a correction.

First stage is 26 episode serie.
Extra stage a OVA(I have it as one ep, but could consist of two episode.)
Second stage is a 13 episode serie.
Third Stage is the movie.

Steathassasn
27-03-02, 08:51 AM
wow...i never expected such quick responses...thanks..and i have seen the cars from the show...the 86 corrola i think is the coolest...

whats your favorite car from the series, i would really like to know

Takahashi
27-03-02, 04:12 PM
My favorite car is the Lancer Evolution VI, but the show only features the two to four, so my favorite is the LanEvoIII with backfire system in stage 2:D.

orochi X
28-03-02, 12:28 AM
Originally posted by Takahashi

Sorry if I offend anybody, but this need a correction.


Ohh yeah thats right . . . ive only watched First Stage so i guessed the rest were also series . . ^^;;

Steathassasn
29-03-02, 12:00 PM
its ok

Takara
29-03-02, 07:34 PM
It's a lot like other sports anime. It's pretty funny but I like European cars better. :heh:

klinky
29-03-02, 11:08 PM
Isn't there also a Battle Stage...a mish mash of 1st and 2nd stage battles re-rendered using the process they used in the movie.. ?

One thing to look out for is the chineese dub.....never watch this thing it sucks so bad.I got my initial D off the fansub circuit and was amazed that someone went off the chineese dub and subbed it...horrid dubbing argh...

Initial D will freak you out at first what wif it's odd style of drawing...some people think the woman are poorly done...but hmm the style grows on you...

It seems to me that while 2nd stage "looks" better,it feels as though it was cheaper then 1st stage,I've only seen the first episode but it seems to not pack as much punch.. I'll have to get more of 2nd stage... ;)

~klinky

Maccy99
30-03-02, 02:55 AM
Originally posted by klinky
Isn't there also a Battle Stage...a mish mash of 1st and 2nd stage battles re-rendered using the process they used in the movie.. ?

One thing to look out for is the chineese dub.....never watch this thing it sucks so bad.I got my initial D off the fansub circuit and was amazed that someone went off the chineese dub and subbed it...horrid dubbing argh...

Initial D will freak you out at first what wif it's odd style of drawing...some people think the woman are poorly done...but hmm the style grows on you...

It seems to me that while 2nd stage "looks" better,it feels as though it was cheaper then 1st stage,I've only seen the first episode but it seems to not pack as much punch.. I'll have to get more of 2nd stage... ;)

~klinky

Yes Initial D is a great anime but watch out for the Chinese dub. It's HORRIBLE. It's beyond that, words can't even really express it's poor quality. Please, for your own sakes! Stay away!

Seriously, don't get it, it sucks.

orochi X
30-03-02, 05:13 AM
Originally posted by klinky
Initial D will freak you out at first what wif it's odd style of drawing...some people think the woman are poorly done...but hmm the style grows on you...


Yeah i was kinda suprised with the looks of the characters, kinda wierd style but eh i didnt mind it

Rally
30-03-02, 05:27 AM
The character designs are different all right, but it's ok since I watch it for the action!

Btw, the soundtrack rocks too! You would really want to burn rubber when you listen to it inside your car while driving on a highway. :D

Eva Series
31-03-02, 02:35 AM
I was going to get the HK DVDs of ebay, but decided against it. I'm glad that you guys put confidence back into my choice by saying it's poor quality and that it is going to be released here later. Does anyone know when it'll be released cuz this is one of the animes I wanna see.

Sounds like a cool anime. I thought the main car was a 86 Toyota Trueno. How can a Corrolla be a RWD car? I guess my favorite car(from what I see) would be the FD RX-7. And all that technical stuff sounds awesome.

Takahashi, what do u mean by backfire system? Is that when flames come outta the exhaust tips? I love that. I want to get something like that on my car:lol:

Is this the only car/street racing anime?

Takahashi
31-03-02, 06:39 AM
You are right about the 86 Trueno "Panda" as the main car, but its more commonly known in the western world as the Corolla. Its the same as the Nissan Skyline, in Europe that car would be called the 300zx(or was it the 200).

Yup, the backfire system is where there are fires coming out of the exhaust, it has it advantage, but its been a long time since I saw Initial D so, I kinda forgot what it was:heh:.

As for other street race anime, only one comes in mind Ex Driver, it has good animation but really sucks in comparisson to Initial D. After 3 episode I decided that it would go way back to the bottom of my to watch list.

klinky
31-03-02, 07:57 PM
ex-Driver is SO FREAKIn' lAMEr....ugh what crap...That guy is good what wif Oh my Goddess,but stick with the sweet animes........crap Ex-D....damn them...So unrealistic......baka...

There is a movie of it coming out no less ... :mad:


~klinky

daniel480
01-04-02, 12:06 AM
Initial D is kickass, especially the later parts of the series since they upgraded their graphics and CG scenes immensely. My favorites would have to be either the Nissan Skyline used by the guy from the Night Kids, or the yellow RX-7 FD3 from the Takahashi bros.

I've heard rumors that Tokyo Pop might actually remove all the original music [vocals, etc] and replace it with some other pop songs? O_o; If so, I'd prefer the Japanese raw than whatever they pull out.

Takahashi
01-04-02, 12:35 AM
That would be a big shame on Tokyo Pop, cause Move really put the feel of speed into initial D, enhancing the experience. Initial wouldn't be the same without move:mad2:.

Steathassasn
01-04-02, 11:23 AM
some how i dont think the 86 is a corrola...maybe its a old accord

or it could have been a limited edition model celica..considering most corrolas are fwd

anyones thoughts on this ?

BathingK9999
01-04-02, 12:17 PM
I checked my Initial D manga and it has been confirmed that the AE86 "Trueno" is the 1980s Corolla. It is also knowed as "Levin" in Japan if you are interested. As far as I saw, the trueno is probably a FR since Takumi drives the S13 in vol. 3 and says that as long as it is the same type, he can do what he does best...drift to a certain extent.

Steathassasn
01-04-02, 03:12 PM
ahh...i see..thanks ...but that raises another question ..are there any of them here in the states ..i mean i would like to own one one day ( thats if my camaro blows up i mean ) ..

i would get that or a old honda civic

feel the power of my 4 cylinder .....GO V-TECH!

akaflakes
01-04-02, 03:40 PM
Yes they are here in the states. good luck finding one though. Some more food for thought. The Levin and Trueno are just different models of the same car. (The levin being a stripped version of the Trueno. example compare an evo gsr to an evo rs)
As for the backfiring thing. In Initial D it is called "misfiring system", in real life it is als=anti-lag system. The pro of this is that turbo lag is almost nonexistent . The con to this is that you will be replacing turbos and full exhaust system every 3000 miles if that. hmmm the 86 corolla was the last year that the made them rear wheel drive. And it would suck if they changed the music in Initial d when they bring it over here.

by the way does anyone know when they are going to start the 4th stage. and i dont mean the battle stage with the old races redone with the new cg.

Ok im done

Takahashi
01-04-02, 03:54 PM
I have talk to some japanese fans of the show and even they don't know if there will ever be a fourth stage:(.

akaflakes
01-04-02, 03:58 PM
i think im going to cry now. thanks for the info though

Steathassasn
01-04-02, 05:02 PM
yeah ..seriously

well im fired up to buy intial D when it comes over ..so i hope it comes sooner ..than later ...

now i have to go tune my camaro



:D

Maccy99
01-04-02, 07:29 PM
Originally posted by Steathassasn
yeah ..seriously

well im fired up to buy intial D when it comes over ..so i hope it comes sooner ..than later ...

now i have to go tune my camaro



:D

I think it's been mentioned before in this thread but don't let the animation, mainly the faces, throw you off. Initial D is a great anime with exciting scenes and interesting characters, even though the faces are a little below average.

BathingK9999
01-04-02, 11:50 PM
Even though there might not be a 4th stage, the manga is running strong since it is like at vol. 20~something ish. However, I like the manga more (maybe since I actually have it) but anyway, the series will continue...so don't be so disappointed akaflakes :D . Aso, how do you know so much about the 86, just wondering?

Eva Series
02-04-02, 01:38 AM
Were the Truenos released in the States? I've seen a car with the same body style driving here once in a while.

BathingK, how many cars are there in the manga? I got like volume 21 of ebay(not here yet) and it seems like there is alot seeming as they are that many volumes. Any S15s? How bout any American muscle, or is it all J-Spec?

Seath, what year Camaro? It seems like the early ones if you want a Trueno or an old Civic(don't do it, get an older RX-7)

fasad
02-04-02, 10:32 AM
pretty much everything you guys have said about the ae86 is wrong..
initial-D is a cartoon, don't think it can teach you too much... (although i haven't seen it)

the ae86 (hachi roku) is a toyota corolla sports model, in japan known as:
"corolla levin" (fixed head lights) or "sprinter trueno" (pop-up lights) (sr5 = base drivetrain, gt = 4ag, gtv = discs + lsd + ps, gt-apex = leather, climate control, etc)
in europe "corolla gts" (both pop-up and fixed) (not 100% sure?)
in us "corolla gts" (pop-up only) (the sr5 = same body, base drivetrain)
in aus "sprinter" (fixed hatchback only) (base drivetrain)

ae86 is the chasis code, and has nothing to do with the year (although many lhd are ae88, and ae85 are the base jdm model. the headlight arrangements are interchangable, the chassis is the same. it was made in both a fastback and coupe model (different chassis, but same code). they were made between mid/late 83 till early 87. some minor cosmetic changes were made in late 85. all other corollas made before 1983 were also rwd. the one in intitial d is a late model trueno.

the reason the ae86 was and still is popular, is it's light weight (900-950 kilo), rev happy engine (world first mass produced dohc), rwd lsd drivetrain, and responsive, forgiving handling (short, wide track). it also happens to look a lot better than other cars around in the 80s..

however, it is not the best car ever.. most cars today have more power, better brakes, and many even handle better. but the aren't as much *fun* to drive. they are safer though. also the prices for ae86 have gone up a lot in the past 5 years, especially in japan.
if you can find one to buy, it will have a lot of rust, especially if you get snow. many parts will be worn out and need replacement or rebuild.

as an owner of these unfortunately currently trendy cars, can i say please, don't buy one then think you're part of rally kids and crash it. prices are already high enough.

oh yeah, i've also heard that a us company has the rights to release initial d : (

akaflakes
02-04-02, 06:25 PM
Fasad. sorry I made the assumption that ae86 ment the year. Also I (not thinking) compared the ae85 to the ae86. And yes there are many better cars out there. the ae86 is just easy to break loose from what i have read. I dont own one and never will, I was just using info that i had picked up along my travels on the internet. And the only reason I would buy it is to rally it and crash it. thats what u buy old cars for:).

As for the s15, didnt that guy from the redsuns drive one. Or was it a s14.

Tokyopop has the rights to initial d I believe.

Also Fasad, Initial d does teach u a little about cars but mostly about drifting. U can use some of what they talk about when drifting. Just make sure u have a cellphone to call a towtruck when u crash:)

As for tuning your camaro. for what drifting? if so just peal out a lot to wear down the tread on your back tires.camaros are still rwd correct? sorry im not a big fan of domestics:)

lastly and its a spoiler for those who have not seen initial d so dont read if u havent seen it.
What is everyone's thoughts on the race between the ae86 and the evo4 gsr. I for one dont care how fast Takumi is, if the driver in the evo is good(not great but good) then i think that there is no way that the evo could loose

BathingK9999
02-04-02, 06:45 PM
I admit that Initial D should not be used as a racing guide (that rumor about "racing bible" was heard from somewhere...)

However,it is basically the most realistic (I think...) manga/anime about street racing. On the other hand, I personally would not practice the techniques that are given at the end of the manga.

about your question regarding the number of cars, EVA series, I think akaflakes is more ahead of me so I will let me take it. However, I think that the cars in it are all japanese.

since I have an extremely limited knowledge of cars/specs (though I am interested now due to Initial D), can anyone tell me if 380 ps is the same as horsepower since I have the chinese translation of the manga? otherwise, what is the formula?

Takahashi
02-04-02, 07:11 PM
Spoiler about lancer EVO
I too found it a bit unrealistic, no matter how skilled Takumi is, there is just no way a hachi rouku could ever keep up with a LanEvo, but the race engine his father put in it is a whole different story. The power and control of the LanEvo is just way beyond the hachi rouku, but its anime anything is possible.

Kizzim
02-04-02, 08:00 PM
Originally posted by akaflakes
Fasad. sorry I made the assumption that ae86 ment the year. Also I (not thinking) compared the ae85 to the ae86. And yes there are many better cars out there. the ae86 is just easy to break loose from what i have read. I dont own one and never will, I was just using info that i had picked up along my travels on the internet. And the only reason I would buy it is to rally it and crash it. thats what u buy old cars for:).

As for the s15, didnt that guy from the redsuns drive one. Or was it a s14.

Tokyopop has the rights to initial d I believe.

Also Fasad, Initial d does teach u a little about cars but mostly about drifting. U can use some of what they talk about when drifting. Just make sure u have a cellphone to call a towtruck when u crash:)

As for tuning your camaro. for what drifting? if so just peal out a lot to wear down the tread on your back tires.camaros are still rwd correct? sorry im not a big fan of domestics:)

lastly and its a spoiler for those who have not seen initial d so dont read if u havent seen it.
What is everyone's thoughts on the race between the ae86 and the evo4 gsr. I for one dont care how fast Takumi is, if the driver in the evo is good(not great but good) then i think that there is no way that the evo could loose

Dont do anything in this series :P *remembers the old days* I was 18, stupid and i had a nice car. Brand new Honda Civic, that i absolutely loved to race, the reason being for this, the engine was powerful for a v4, and the body was light like nothing else. I could easily go 125 before my mods, 135-140 after. One day i was racing on the freeway in the rain, yes i know stupid, but it was a straight away, so i was like who gives a shiz. I brought a friend with me to help weigh down the car so i wouldnt hydroplane. Sure enough, im going 100ish, and my wheels slip, i start doing 360s, i made i beleive a good 3-4 rotations before my tires gripped and slammed me into the middle wall. My car hit once, hit again, then hit again. My airbags didnt even deploy cus the second hit ripped the bumper clean off with a angle hit. When it was all over, both myself and my friend walked out without a scratch but my brand new car was trashed :) 9,000 to fix the car, every single one of the panels on my car were destroyed, and thanks to modern technology i had no frame damage at hitting the wall at 100+ mph, who says japs cant build cars.

btw if you what exact car specs, i was driving a black civic 98 LS 5 speed

akaflakes
02-04-02, 08:39 PM
I wouldnt say dont do anything in the series. Drifting is quite fun if u have an old car u dont care about and u have a good sense of driving skill. I remember the good old days. ahhh about 3 months ago actually. a friend of mine and myself both took our cars through the local dirt road with lots of turns and ditches and trees. got chased by rednecks with 4x4 trucks. lost them do to drving skill. i remember looking at the rear view mirror to see their shocked faces when we would break loss going sideways in tight turns. anyway that night we were back drifting again on the same road. just his car this time. drifted an easy corner and met with an oncoming car in the middle of the drift. came out of drift sooner than we should of and went flying into a field. just kept on going though.

They do give good advice in the series. like if u mess up a drift just spin out(not on rainy roads though). Other good things too.

Takahashi I take it that u have seen an evo in real life. Have u driven one? I hate living in the states. No good cars here.

about the guy with the civic. i take it all your mods were performance mods. Not very common with with civics. when i read that u drove a civic i kept thinking the dreaded r word in my head.

next question. Has anyone heard about the real life Initial d movie that is being made?

Kizzim
02-04-02, 11:03 PM
Trust me, i didnt have a rice burner or anything, i just had a custom air intake, governer chip removed, custom exhost, racing tires, rims and a clutch adjustment, i didnt have any of that bull**** type-r racing stuff if thats what yer talking about. I was a 'weekend' warrior, i just basically raced for fun, and relied on my skills and my lack of brains :)

BathingK9999
03-04-02, 12:45 AM
Approximately when does Takumi race the Evo (I saw the Lancer Evo VII on a website and it looked good...real good)? Is it in the 1st stage or 2nd stage (manga vol. 17 and on)?

Takahashi
03-04-02, 06:14 AM
Takumi race the Evo IV in second stage episode 1 to 3 I think, after that he raced they Evo III which is slight more powerfull with the misfiring system.

Takahashi
03-04-02, 06:23 AM
Originally posted by akaflakes

Takahashi I take it that u have seen an evo in real life. Have u driven one? I hate living in the states. No good cars here.

Nope, there are only 7 LanEvo VII in the Netherland and unfortunately I am not one of the proud owner, but I will once I get a real job. I do however follow the world rally championship from times to times and those Lancer are really awsome, the only reason the Evo are losing at the moment is due to really lousy drivers, cause last year(and previous years) it dominated the WRC.

Steathassasn
03-04-02, 11:36 AM
why are you guys concered with my old 82 comaro..yes it is RWD...yes im gona do some drifts..in Philidelphia they have a great park system( lots of turns and dips ) and i might do a few drifts and laps there

about the mods...eh..im going for mostly cosmetic mods and a few performance ( better air and fuel filter, power pullys, and maybe a racing wing, better breaks..::damn drum and disk::) that would be the end of it...god i hate college ..they steal most of my "fun " money ..

lol...any way about the ae86..thanks for the info...i cant find that car so ill just settle for a SR-5 ( looks almost like it..except its not a hatch back ) and for those who dont know my M.O.

here it is
:: does burn out in 99' honda civic :: i know its not mine....just a little something for the fans :lol:

akaflakes
03-04-02, 06:11 PM
hmm drifting in a city. Have u ever drifted before? if not go find some back roads and practice first. of course with that camaro with all that american power u must have broke loose in some corners before. just remember its better to crash your car than crash into oncoming traffic. everytime i drift im ready to go flying off the road to avoid oncoming traffic.

Takahashi. how many other versions of evos are in the netherlands. does anyone there want to sell one to me for a nice price:)

to stay on topic Initial D rules:)

ise????

Takahashi
03-04-02, 08:12 PM
When I did a search for a Lan Evo for sale in the Netherland there was only one(LanEvo VI) on sale it cost around 50.000 US dollars, as you can see not the kind of money a poor college student could dish out.

I however drive a '96 Hyundai Lantra with a 114hp DOHC engine, I am still very happy to actually own my own car for one:), next to that its quite fun to drive in it:D. Goddamn law around here won't allow me to drive at its max of 120 miles per hour. Any more than 90 and I risk losing my license for 5 years and have to take the exam all over again(a license is rathe expensive in Europe), that is not a risk I am willing to take.

fasad
04-04-02, 12:24 AM
Steathassasn,
an sr5 does not mean anything about body shape. both body shapes came in gts and sr5 grade. without lsd, real drifting is impossible - the sr5 doen't have one (from the factory).

akaflakes
04-04-02, 01:35 AM
he could always e-brake it. but thats no fun:)

Eva Series
04-04-02, 05:07 AM
While we are at the AWDs of ID, is there a Skyline(one of my favorites:cool: )? I think it was 32, but I can't seem to recall if it is actually in the series. I also think I saw a 300ZX ID model on ebay but my mind is all cloudy, was that in the series(manga) also? Actually I think the 300 kit was a Tamiya brand not an ID. Dammit my ID manga isn't here yet.

I know www.motorex.net is importing Skylines. I think they can do the Evo too. Why not? Maybe you should email them asking if they can import one if you have the time and about 50-80K:lol:

Kizzim, no such thing as a V4:lol:

akaflakes
04-04-02, 08:05 AM
evolutionimports.com only 40 thousand to get an evo7 rs imported to the US.

i think thats the site

Steathassasn
04-04-02, 12:26 PM
thanks for the info on the sr 5..and about driffting ...im gona go try to find some back roads..but Pharamount park ( one of the us's largest park systems ) is pretty large and mostly vacant..so im not actually driving in the city ..think of it as a large park..a Very Large park...

anyway... i dont know about all that American raw power (im pushing a 2.6 stock model..not a z28 ) and its a auto ...an i still gona try to drift ...yeah..but im gona take the advice and find some back roads first

anyway...which is better...more rim and less tire...or more tire and less rim

in other words use a 17' with low profile tires for drifting or should i stay stock ?

akaflakes
04-04-02, 05:00 PM
to bad about your car being an auto. tuff to drift in i guess. I have no experience drifting a rwd auto car. fwd auto yes i know how to do. rwd stick I can do also. i guess just punch the gas and hope the auto transmission downshifts. As for tires the best thing I can tell u is to have kinda bald back tires. This way the frontstill grabs giving u control of the car and the back tires can still get loose. The two cars i have drifted in were both stock everything(tires, engine, transmission,.....stuff)

happy drifting

Steathassasn
05-04-02, 11:04 AM
aww...thanks...well theres always the emergency break..:lol:

anyway..im gona go try to find some back roads once my car gets some insurance and gets past inspection ...

if it crashes...im getting a ford Feista

:lol:

^FallenAngel^
06-04-02, 07:55 AM
Sometimes in the anime, the stunts they do, it's abit difficult and almost impossible for us to do it in real life!!
It looks abit fake in another word!!

Palchan
06-04-02, 08:38 AM
From what I gather I hear many people have been saying this series is in some way good, however, from experience I can tell you quite honestly that these people are better referred to as being wrong. ;):D:D;)
Initial D is :devil: :vomit: :bone: :down: and :finger: or I should say pretty much a mixture of all these things.
If you like cars, you will have orgasms over this anime. If not, it will bore you beyond all form of recognition.
My suggestion is, wait until your friend brings it... Effort is too high a price for this anime IMO. ^_^ ^_~

Takahashi
06-04-02, 09:40 AM
Palchan, let me guess, your all time favorite anime is DBZ?

Palchan
06-04-02, 09:46 AM
Originally posted by Takahashi
Palchan, let me guess, your all time favorite anime is DBZ?
Argento Soma and Angelic Layer are my faves. ^_^

Takahashi
06-04-02, 01:52 PM
Atleast you got good judgement, still no reason to bash Initial D. Eventhough there isn't much of a story, initial d still is very addictive and I can only find people with really short attention span to bash it, thus why the silly question, people who even give it a slim chance by watching the first two episode are usually hooked on it, guess you are a special case. Maybe it just because of me and my friends have recently come to the driving age, which might explain the enthusiasme to this anime.

akaflakes
06-04-02, 02:22 PM
Ok I admit it. My opinion was wrong. What was i thinking.

Palchan, are u the one who always tells everyone that Initial d sucks in every Initial d thread. and about the cars in Initial d, who would go nuts about them. Most of the cars arent that great and the great cars in the show are probably every month in there anime world service shops for repairs(both rx-7s and the evo3)

Its a shame about people like u. I wouldnt mind if u said that U didnt like the show and that U felt like it was crap. no you say that the show is crap. whats backing that up. is it the animation. The show wasnt made for the animation. It was made to glorify drifting. Also some say that there is no story to the show. Ummm ive the first time I watched the entire show I could tell that there was a story to the show. two actually. Go out and look for reviews for initial d. I bet that u will have a hard time finding one that says the show is good. oh well I read those reviews before i watched Initial d and was glad that I didnt pay them too much mind.

If the show was so crappy then why did they make the show(episodes 1-26) the ova(1-13) the extra ova(impact blue side story) the movie(third stage) the battle stage(1st and 2nd stage races redone with one extra race) Making a real life movie
(with Jackie Chan as the director or producer I cant remember) countless toys etc....

FallenAngel. I agree. The drift that Takahashi Ryuosuke did to miss the skyline was pointless and would be really hard to do in real life. That and the fact that the great driver in the show never crash when they drift. if this was true then in real life the wrc drivers would never crash but guess what they do.

edit. I take some of it back. Shows like pokemon are/were insanely popular and they suck. so I cant use that arguement.
think like this though. Do u watch DBZ for a love story. No. If u watch it you want to see them fight. Same thing for Initial d. Its a racing anime so that is all they really need. the other stuff is just that. other stuff

Palchan
06-04-02, 09:23 PM
What was originally asked:
Originally posted by Steathassasn
before i shill out the money i would like you know anyones thoughts on this anime...i heard that some one was bring it over...if thats the case then ill wait for it ..

still i want some feed back on this ..k

I've seen enough of this anime to know that if you're not into cars IT WILL OFFICIALLY BORE YOU TO DEATH:bone: :bone: ~~>_<~~. :bawling:

When we screened it an AUNSW, we'd show all these other anime, ie. Slayers, Karekano, Bepop, feature (whatever that may be) etc. When Initial D finally came on, 20+ people just walk straight out of the theatre and go home. :lol::lol:
As for the animation.... Ugly ~~>_<~~, Nothing bish (well to me anyway), then again, that's hard a basis for not liking an anime (although fanservice would improve my opinion of it :naughty:.)

Now in response to the problem at hand, what you should do is when you see this person who is bringing it over ask 'how much will you pay me to watch this?' If it's not tripple digits, ooh boy. ^_~;)
I don't like this anime and there are too many that agree with me to have this poor fellow led-on by only the people that do like it. ;):)

Takahashi
06-04-02, 11:20 PM
That is kinda an ignorant view at animes, personally I do not care much about the animation, if I had done that I would have missed out on a great many animes. People with your kind view is just a bit to narrow minded, I guess you would probably not like Slam Dunk either, in my opinion the most humoristic anime ever. Well if you are just as ignorant as the people walking out of Initial D, then its your lost.

Pen2
07-04-02, 04:20 AM
Quoth Takahashi...
That is kinda an ignorant view at animes, personally I do not care much about the animation

Palchan said it himself, dear..

Palchan...
then again, that's hard[ly] a basis for not liking an anime

So you can't really call him ignorant for agreeing with you.

Back to Takahashi...People with your kind view is just a bit to narrow minded.

You mean...people who don't like something are by nature narrowminded? Tell me, Takahashi, do you like anal sex? If no, then you're obviously narrowminded. Surely you can see the flaw in that logic.

humoristic

You mean 'humourous'. Don't mind me, I'm just a grammar nazi.

Well if you are just as ignorant as the people walking out of Initial D, then its your lost.

Again, the fact that people don't like something doesn't mean they're ignorant. I couldn't sit through Initial D either, and I agree with Palchan in saying it's primarily for car fetishists. So it's not our thing, big deal. Doesn't mean we're 'ignorant'. Are you going to try and tell me you like every single anime ever created?


[Sayeth Me (Drizz): "And to think I was about to post the same thing Pen2 has done. I love it when he takes some of the load off my shoulders. :D"]

Steathassasn
07-04-02, 05:46 AM
ahem....i like cars ...as stated in my previous threads ..ihave a car

i love WRC ( although its not very popular in the states )

and i love Fast and the Furious ( although the plot was bad ..but the cars were bad ass )

and i dont worry much about the animation...its the cars and story im intrested in...if the story's suck then the races will sute me just fine :D

Note: they have a WRC training school in Florida...hmm...1,119 dollars...is it worth it .......hmm

::does burn out in a pool of water ..spraying the flamers :: something to cool off the fans

Steathassasn
07-04-02, 05:52 AM
i forgot to add somthing

be easy my nizzy's

( little rap culture for ya :lol: :D )

Takahashi
07-04-02, 10:35 AM
Originally posted by Pen2

So you can't really call him ignorant for agreeing with you.

You mean...people who don't like something are by nature narrowminded? Tell me, Takahashi, do you like anal sex? If no, then you're obviously narrowminded. Surely you can see the flaw in that logic.

Again, the fact that people don't like something doesn't mean they're ignorant. I couldn't sit through Initial D either, and I agree with Palchan in saying it's primarily for car fetishists. So it's not our thing, big deal. Doesn't mean we're 'ignorant'. Are you going to try and tell me you like every single anime ever created?

I am saying that even if the animation is really bad, doesn't mean it is a bad anime, I do believe I read it correct when he says 20 somewhat people walk out of Initial D on its first 5 minutes or so(don't quote me on that), seems to me very ignorant, just read my post I never said people like that are ignorant. I said view like that is ignorant. I can say people are ignorant when they don't give an anime a chance can't I or did this board turn into a nazi camp while I was sleeping?

All I am saying is that give it a chance and it will excite you, when you give a 26 episode serie 15 minutes than that is to me really narrowminded and ignorant, if I offend anyone with that, good! Then they might pick something up from it and next time might give something a little more than 3 episodes to make a real judgement.

If you have seen the entire Initial D and still don't like it my fault for recommending a bad anime, then I appologise. If you do like also fine, another person to join in the discussion. But badmouthing something which you haven't entirely seen, isn't something I think very highly of.

BathingK9999
07-04-02, 09:35 PM
I like Initial D, and Palchan, you don't (or don't seem to). Anyway, that is fine with me as I dislike probably some anime that you like. However, I find it that it is pointless to state absolute statements or generalizations such as if you're not into cars IT WILL OFFICIALLY BORE YOU TO DEATH

As I said, if you don't like it then, fine, say that you don't like it for whatever reasons. But don't try to tell other people that they won't like it (or will be bored to death) before they have had the chance to try it. Why don't you let him/her watch it for himself/herself and make their own judgement?

I don't like this anime and there are too many that agree with me to have this poor fellow led-on by only the people that do like it.

He/She posted on this forum himself/herself and specifically asked for our opinions and of course, we will give it to him/her. This isn't peer pressure here, we aren't forcing the "poor fellow" to do or like anything. He/she has the ultimate choice of purchasing Initial D. As they say, "you can take a horse down to the river, but you can't make him/her drink" or something to that effect.

akaflakes
07-04-02, 10:35 PM
Palchan, the first time I watched Initial d I knew how to put gas in a car and thats it. So i wasnt a big car guy. However the first time I saw Takumi race, which was episode 4 or 5, i was hooked. It only gets better as it goes one. Now I can admit Initial d leaves something to be desired but like i said before ITS A RACING ANIME SO ALL IT NEEDS TO FOCUS ON IS RACING. If people dont want to wait till the first race and say to heck with ID after episode 1 thats fine. let it be a sleeper anime that some people can appreciate. Since it seems that Steathassasn likes cars then this anime will be a good choice for him. I guess that u didnt read that but just wanted to get your view across that ID sucks. so far only what 3 or 4 people said thats its crap in this thread. the rest said that its a good buy.

Steathassasn. there is a rally school somewhere up north too. If u ever decide to go ummm pick me up:):) Ill pay for myself and half of the trip. sorry but my car cant make it:( one too many bad drifts and i dont feel like fixing it.

done with this thread. goodbye

Palchan
08-04-02, 12:38 AM
Hahahahaha! :lol::lol::lol::lol:
This is THE ONLY anime I've seen where people have openly (albeit perhaps silently) abused it at screenings that is NOT hentai/yaoi etc. (although I am a rather young member there).
Anyhow, he said he's into cars, fine, watch it. If you find yourself waking up at some point during it then don't say I didn't warn you. ^_~:D;)

Pen2
08-04-02, 03:36 AM
Originally posted by Takahashi

I am saying that even if the animation is really bad, doesn't mean it is a bad anime, I do believe I read it correct when he says 20 somewhat people walk out of Initial D on its first 5 minutes or so(don't quote me on that),

He said that people walked out of an Initial D screening. He didn't say it was because the animation was bad, and he didn't say it was immediate. AUNSW screens a few episodes a week of a few series (although I wasn't there for this Initial D walkout specifically), and this wasn't the first Initial D screening. So, 20 or so people, based on what they'd seen of the series before, walked out of the cinema to go talk with other people instead of watching it. Ignorance, that is not.


read my post I never said people like that are ignorant. I said view like that is ignorant.

Well actually, you did.

Previous post...Well if you are just as ignorant as the people walking out of Initial D...

I can say people are ignorant when they don't give an anime a chance can't I or did this board turn into a nazi camp while I was sleeping?

Oh sure, I never said you couldn't say it. Did this board turn into a nazi camp where I couldn't disagree with you? You made an ill-concieved blanket statement about people I know, and I'm taking issue with it.

All I am saying is that give it a chance and it will excite you, when you give a 26 episode serie 15 minutes than that is to me really narrowminded and ignorant, if I offend anyone with that, good! Then they might pick something up from it and next time might give something a little more than 3 episodes to make a real judgement.

Whoa whoa...first you say 15 minutes, then you say three episodes. Not that it matters, because they'd seen at least four anyway. Exactly how much does a person have to see to decide they don't like watching something? Surely not the entire series. I'm not ragging on Initial D. If you like it, good for you. Have yourself a medal. I've seen about 4 episodes and I dont like it. Maybe I'm not quite as knowledgable about Initial D as you, but I don't want to be. I'm exercising my personal judgement about something, and that's my buisness. I very heavily doubt Initial D takes a drastic turn to magically become an Anime that sparks my interest in the fifth episode.

If you have seen the entire Initial D and still don't like it my fault for recommending a bad anime, then I appologise. If you do like also fine, another person to join in the discussion. But badmouthing something which you haven't entirely seen, isn't something I think very highly of.

That's nice, because I don't think very highly of blanket statements about people you don't even know. We'll just have to learn to live with each other. I mean, really, if you don't like something, must you be forced to watch the entire thing to make a judgement on it? Sure, if you want to make a balanced review about it you'd want to be well informed, but to make a personal judgement about whether or not to continue watching something when there's better things to be doing is entirely up to the individual. I like Kenshin, but if someone doesn't like Kenshin I wouldn't expect them to sit through all damn 95 episodes before I considered their opinion valid. People don't like things. That's what people do.

I don't like Initial D. I base this dislike on what I've seen of it, its stylistic nature, its plot flow, its characters and all the other things I picked up on in two hours or so of viewing. That is purely my opinion, and having an opinion that doesn't match up to yours doesn't mean that you're in possession of some magical truth that I don't. Palchan's going a bit overboard in his dislike, but don't confuse him with me. I'm not saying you can't like Initial D. I'm not saying you're stupid for watching Initial D. That's you opinion based on what you've seen. So back up and go watch the thing instead of trying to say that anyone who doesn't like it is an idiot.

Maccy99
08-04-02, 06:16 AM
heh, this is an interesting little discussion. If whoever doesn't like it, say why. If whoever does like it, say why. He asked for a review, that's how you give one. You can discuss what might be mistaken reason for dislike, but there's no point in arguing. As someone who's been in many a board battle, I don't want to see this thread turn into that, let's all just get along.

As for the car thing, I hate cars and I hate to hear people talking about cars. As long as it moves, I think it does what it should do. But, I like Initial D.

Takahashi
08-04-02, 07:09 AM
To clarify, 15 minutes referring to people who walks out of an anime really early and 3 episode is a good indication whether you like an anime(or any other media) or not, if by the third episode you still don't like it might be an indication to stop watching, again this is my opinion, if you like 4 episode as a standard for measurement who am I to tell you to stop at 3.

Steathassasn
08-04-02, 11:26 AM
aww man..im gona miss ya...although speed racer was about racing but it became a clasic (and my dad's personal fave )

and as many people have stated (and they are on point ) i just wanted opinions...good and bad...its ok to get a well rounded view of the series ..

you all did a wonderful job of helping me understand the series a little

someone is probly gona shut this thread down..so..pass he sake and lets PARTY!
:beer:::does drift in 82 camaro:: i did it ...i did it ! :: drifts into traffic :: aww ---- ...

akaflakes
20-04-02, 12:49 AM
does anyone know the exact car specs for all the cars in intial d. not the stock specs but what upgrades have been done to them and stuff like that. Im really just interested in the ae 86 with trd engine upgrade, mazda rx-7 fc3s, mazda rx-7 fd3s, and the evo 3 gsr. Ive been looking all over the internet and couldnt find them. only stock specs or incomplete specs. thanks

DBZsux
23-04-02, 11:44 PM
since they never said what mods were done to the cars, it will be pretty hard to find actual specs on them. The only ones that know what was done to the cars would be the anime's creators and i have yet to see them say something about that subject. All i know is that they say what the black Skyline R-32 was tuned to at some point in the anime. (God i forget his name, the white fc's driver, says how powerful it is just by hearing it). The evo 3 had a mis-firing system mod put on. but that is all they say about mods as far as i know. Oh the rx-7 fd had an aftermarket exhaust too.

MS06JZaku
25-04-02, 03:31 AM
Actually I've been waiting for an anime that protained to cars. I've always been a big fan of racing games, so its sounds pretty good, ilrelevent to what everyone else has said. I was kind of missing good old Speed Racer. Good to see something racing return, but making a Test Drive series would've been cool, or even Driver.

Rally
25-04-02, 03:34 AM
LanEvo is the king of the mountain pass!! :D

fasad
25-04-02, 06:44 AM
the parts put into the ae86 are mainly fictional. i can tell you that he puts in a blacktop 20 valve 4ag somewhere along the way and the rims are (meant to be) rs watanabes. both of these are considered to be the ultimate swaps in real life. the initial D car is basically inspired by keiichi's trd ae86, which is considered to be the best ae86 around.
anyway, in reality the 20v is good for 150 hp or so stock and about 200 at most if tuned hard, and kept na. the rims just look nice : )

akaflakes
25-04-02, 09:13 AM
the mach5 would beat the tar out of a "LanEvo".

best quote from Initial d.

Itsuki"but it only has stock wheels and it doesnt have limited slip dif"
Takumi"i dont care. thouse guys pissed me off."

cant let a good thread die

edit. After watching the battle stage i have a question for anyone else that has seen it. In the rain battle between the ae86 and the s14, did anyone see the front tires spin on the s14. I thought they were rwd cars. im not taking about skidding or what not but they broke loose like rear tires on a rwd car. strange huh. maybe i was just imaging stuff.

rotary potatoes :lol:

Steathassasn
25-04-02, 12:18 PM
Yeah..maybe some one forgot to tell the animators that ..:lol:

BTW the Lancer Evo VII ( they will call it the Evo III when it comes ) is coming to the United states

i feel sorry for all those poor souls who didnt wait for a Evo series Lancer ..the poor saps ..they were tricked again

:(

Steathassasn
25-04-02, 01:10 PM
the rims look factory orginals

and whats wrong with factory rims..huh? shine them up and they look just about as good as any other type of rim

fasad
25-04-02, 02:46 PM
if this is the car, they are watanabes :
http://www.geocities.com/japanese_model/Pictures/AE86_1.jpg
the real thing :
http://www.club4ag.com/faq%20and%20tech_pages/wheels/h_watanabe1.jpg
and the stock ones :
http://www.club4ag.com/club4ag_photos/contributions/1-6-2000/AE_86_Dennis_Garnett_B.jpg

it's all down to personal preferance

also, looking at initial d sites - the engine swap seems not to be a blacktop, but a silvertop (it says ae101!)... i guess i should shut up seeing as i haven't seen i/d anyway : )

Drizzten
25-04-02, 02:57 PM
["Initial D Car specs" thread merged.]

Bleed
25-04-02, 03:08 PM
there you go, the RS WATANABE on a Hachi-roku :D


oppss... forgot to attach the pic :D

Bleed
25-04-02, 03:10 PM
here it is:

akaflakes
25-04-02, 07:53 PM
umm the evo will be called the evo7 when it comes here. id like to know where u heard otherwise. If u say a dealership u loose major brownie points my friend.

I dont feel sorry for the people who bought lancers. i do feel sorry for people who bought the lancer because they thought it was an evo or were told by salesmen that it was an evo. My grandma could tell the difference for crying out loud. EVO'S DONT COME IN AUTO(not counting evo7gta) the wing is not an option, it comes with the car. so many other things that anyone who has the slightest idea what an evo can do/is would be able to tell the difference.

as for the merger. sorry i didnt feel like finding the old thread. it had been dead for a little bit. I just wanted to have more thread s about initial d out there for the possiblility of someday having its own forum. maybe ill go make a request now that i think of it
.
:beer: horray for drunken posting

laters

edit. didnt want to make another reply. there is a forum request up now. everyone give it some support. nothing gets done if everyone remains quiet.

Drizzten
26-04-02, 02:49 AM
No problem, Mr. Flakes. :)

By the way, has Initial D been licensed? My AOD link (http://www.animeondvd.com) at the top of this forum isn't working for some reason...

Eva Series
26-04-02, 02:50 AM
I'm actually thinking about buying a Evo in about 2-5 years or so when I have a fulltime job or so. They are great cars. As long as they aren't heavy, heavier than 3500 or so then I'd get one. I love AWDs.

By the way do you think Nissan will/should bring the Skyline over since the other 2 AWD J-Spec sport sedans are bascially here. I think Nissan will make a huge profit if they do considering that it's gonna be in Fast and the Furious 2. And the fact that they are one of the coolest cars:cool:

Steathassasn
26-04-02, 11:31 AM
Originally posted by akaflakes
umm the evo will be called the evo7 when it comes here. id like to know where u heard otherwise. If u say a dealership u loose major brownie points my friend.



i heard that from a car magazine...i duno maybe they got some false info

who cares..if i cant have a lancer...guess ill look for an old Impreza

akaflakes
26-04-02, 07:20 PM
Nissan is bringing the skyline over to the US. its getting a new name though. Infintis g35 or something like that. wont be the same thing as the skyline gtr35 though. just a rumor but i heard that they will eventualyy bring a full blown skyline over in about 4-6 years.

They evo will lose some weight when it comes over to the US. no acd or ayc, too much maintence for us lazy americans. oh well, I didnt want the ayc anyway, to hard to get the car loose with one.
They will probably add some weight to make ot more luxuryous to appeal to more buyers. only true evo fans will want to buy them if they are sold stripped like the rs version is.

I heard something about the original f&f. someone wanted to have a skyline in it but since it isnt widely known to the general public they didnt want to have it in the movie. I didnt know they were going to make a second fast and the furious. Maybe this time they will actually know what they are talking about. and hopefully it will be about autocross or something to that effect. I hate to see imports made into dragcars with the exception of supras and skylines. maybe rx-7s as well. just IMO

Finally, I started to watch Initial d again for the 3rd time to really pick it apart. There is a lot more depth to the series then I originally thought. U just have to know what to look for. I am sad to say that after watching the civic race I got tired of Initial D and probably wont watch it again for a while. But it is still one of my favorite animes.

laters

James
26-04-02, 08:35 PM
I'm just curious if anyone knows of a song off of Initial D called "Nights of Fire?" It's sung by some guy in english yet has a definite J-Pop feel to it. The mp3 tag said it was from Initial D but I couldn't tell seeing as how I've never seen the show. That and when I downloaded it it said it was from Gundam W which after listening to it I could tell was not. :lol:

It's the only song I've got that I have no idea where it came from, and it's always bugged the heck out of me as to where it's really from. Since it said something about Initial D in it though I'm gonna follow the lead and see if it's true or not. :D

So does anyone know perhaps if it is or isn't from the series? Thanks.

akaflakes
26-04-02, 08:53 PM
I believe there are 3 versions of that song out there. Since i know for a fact that it was never in gundam wing(ive listened to about 95% of all gundam wing songs and never heard it nor nothing like it) im pretty sure that it is in Intial d. just cant remember what race/stage it was in. One of the versions is a short mix version that is one of my favorites for driving fast. now that i think of it there might be another version as well. a real upbeat wierd techno like version if im not mistaken

^FallenAngel^
27-04-02, 09:08 AM
"Night of Fire" is in Initial D!! It's in Second Stage I think... at the beginning...

Dream also sing the Japanese version of Night of Fire as well!!
It's a good song overall!! :)

Anyone seen "Battle Stage" I just saw it today... i thought the graphics of the 1st stage battles are much better!!! :D
what did u guys think?

akaflakes
27-04-02, 02:09 PM
I thought all the races looked better in battle stage. I just didnt like how they did the last race. way to short and too long of a jump in technique for the winner of that race.

Steathassasn
29-04-02, 11:22 AM
i saw a AE86 the other day...i freaked out ( not to mention what i did to the driver...he freaked out also )

i think i drooled and stared at his car until he came back ( it was almost an hour)

i think i need some mental help...i dont drool over girls as much as i drool over cars

to bad it didnt have the Panda paint scheme...wonder how that will look on a Camaro

hmmm..

Takahashi
29-04-02, 12:58 PM
Tell you what, I drove past a Renault Alpine with 160km/h:D. I went like holy crap, but look at it for the five seconds it was next to me, didn't bother to break to watch it some more:).

Steathassasn
29-04-02, 01:39 PM
:lol:

maybe some one should make a Inital D for america ( i already know about Fast and the Furious but that dont count )

and the main guy should use..:lol: a dodge neon...yes it sounds strange but you'd be surprised to see how many people super charge and modify those little dodges

besides...add a panda pant scheme..and stare at it for 16 hours

it will start to look like a AE86 ( i know that isnt the car's name but thats what im used too )

some one has to have some thing to say about that :lol:

a neon beat a RX-7.....:eek: oh boy

Steathassasn
29-04-02, 05:01 PM
now...for another pic of the car we all know and love

http://www.club4ag.com/club4ag_photos/contributions/HIJK/Import_Showoff_C_Taiki.jpg

akaflakes
29-04-02, 06:00 PM
never happen. Americans only know how to drive strait and make left hand turns. you'll never see an americanized Initial d.
f&f is the closest that u will get

Steathassasn
29-04-02, 06:06 PM
you give up hope so easily my friend

what if people like us made it ?

we could do it ( if we had the time which most of us dont )

so..what did you think of the eye candy ?

akaflakes
29-04-02, 07:27 PM
I have no mountains where i live. Cant do the downhill if u dont go downhill. I do have some courses mapped out in my area when I feel like racing a liitle bit. Im not giving up im realistic.

If the eye candy your talking about is the ae86 then im sad to say i cant get excited by it. Find me a picture of an Evo zero fighter and then I will get excited.

Steathassasn
30-04-02, 09:04 AM
what you dont like the AE86..but i looked so long to find it :( :bawling:

never heard of that type of Evo....oh BTW did you know they make Evo kits for other cars too :D

fasad
30-04-02, 01:16 PM
again, with the initial d ae86 engine swap.. it's meant to be a trd 20v group a racing engine... $30,000-40,000 US

akaflakes
30-04-02, 06:09 PM
Try finding the Evo6 rs450. Its that car. 0-60mph in 4.1, 0-100mph in 10.1 i believe. Yep u got it the 450 stands for hp.

Fasad, is that price for the engine or all the price of the car with all the upgrades for the engine including the engine. I cant figure out what the heck your last post was about.

Noticed another wierd thing in Initial d. I was watching the 2nd stage again and The guy who owns the Gas station was looking at the new engine for the ae86 before it was installed. He looked at it and said(this is subbed and I dont know if they just didnt have a clue what he said or what.) "Suzuki Motors". Bunta never told him otherwise. and everyone else said that it was a 4ag suped up something or nother not real good with car spec things.

Lastly If u put an evo kit on a car that isnt an evo then that is the biggest piece of rice I would have every seen. I do include the mirage to evo conversion in this group. the car isnt an evo, cant manuever like an evo, and cant accelrate like an evo. dont make it look like one. daily rant done for the day

Steathassasn
01-05-02, 11:16 AM
ok ..how about this

http://www.jtautostyle.com/site/galleryneon1.html

:lol:

call me the clown...in automotive racing circit

<--- only guy in the world who actually wants a Ford Feista

well some ones gota buy them :D

fasad
01-05-02, 04:43 PM
that is a (very) rough estimate on the engine cost alone. they are not available to the public, so the real cost is ???. some gt300 series driver in japan has put one into an ae86 in the "option" series of videos, and spent an estimated $100,000 US on the entire car. club 4ag has some details...

what's with the evo love-fest?? didn't you people get the sti wrx's??? going on the bbc's "top gear" program, the evo lancers are meant to be a total ----- to drive. they might be fastish, but not fun.

Steathassasn
01-05-02, 05:25 PM
yeah..i like the WRX's ...but i wonder if a Ford Fista could do the job

is it just me or is this becoming a General Car thread

i wonder since i made the thread if i can turn it into that

Mod's..i need your assistance

akaflakes
01-05-02, 05:44 PM
we just have the wrx. no sti or other model that i can think of. just two different trim levels of sedan or wagon i believe.

I do like other cars but the evo is my favorite. the sti falls into the number 3 spot on my all time favorite and one day might own list. we have no good imports in the us that is attainable for me. and ff cars just dont cut it(and i dont want the wrx). and that isnt fast and the furious its front engine front wheel drive.

top gear is with tiff right? He picked the sti over the evo because of interior, hood, and the fact that he couldnt break it loose in the turns. the evo is supposed to be a street version rally machine. I like to feal the road when i drive. If not then i feel like im going to sleep. Just a couple of suspension mods and the evo will ride like a dream if u want it to.

fasad
01-05-02, 06:12 PM
the problem is both wrxs and lancers are ff cars that have had a rear drive line thrown in, making them both terribly front heavy plowers. this is actually not too bad in rally - front heavy is preferable... on true 4wd cars like the skyline, both weight and power distrubution are far better for tarmac..
btw, the basic wrx has a power split of about 65/35 between the front and rear wheels... sti is 30/70

tiff didn't like the lancer because it was unpredictable between under/oversteer and the narrow (turbo) power band. i only saw it the 2001 driver's car of the year awards.. the noble m12 gt won btw : )

Steathassasn
01-05-02, 06:41 PM
just wondering

would a Ford Feista make a good rally car..i know its small but they are soo cheap and im tempted to buy one and turn it into a rally " toy"

im sure a sligh suspension and exsaust mod will do the trick

but are there any other suggestions ?

fasad
01-05-02, 07:00 PM
dunno ?? depends on a lot of things, and i know nothing of that car...
look up motor-kahna (in oz) or rally-cross (in us) events if you are serious. see what cars people are using.. anything will be fun, and skill is more important than the car at grass-roots level..

Drizzten
01-05-02, 08:52 PM
Says Steathassasn:
is it just me or is this becoming a General Car thread
No, it's not just you. I'm undecided right now, since the discussion could slide into the anime at any time, and it is still related to the original topic. Keep it mature and focused and I'll leave it alone.

akaflakes
01-05-02, 10:20 PM
I thought that the skyline was just a rwd car until the back wheels lost traction then they power shifted to the front tires.

just remove the ayc from the evo's and then it will become more predictible. nothing is worse than letting a machine figure out how the car should be driven and not letting the driver figure it out.

and I thought both the skyline's and sti's both had problems(in stock form) with understeering. Fasad please answer that one with your unlimited car knowledge that I am soaking up like a sponge. learn something new everyday is my motto

buy a civic. they are a dime a dozen and had basicly unlimited mod capability. just dont make it into a drag car:) ff cars do make great rally cars. only way i ever win any races around here

Drizzten. thanks. its hard to have an Initial d topic and not ending up talking about cars. as long as someone throws in a good remark/question about Initial d then it shouldnt get closed.

Steathassasn
02-05-02, 10:11 AM
interesting...Just wondering are there any women who race in Inital D..

and thanks for the info..i think im gona convert a Kia Sophia instead

they are making a Evo kit for it..and i know those cars are cheap and good ( condidering that Kia enters the Dikar rally every year )

i should be able to pick one up at auction for like 500 dollars easy...oh and another thing

i know this is off topic but i hear many people compare Ex-Driver to Inital d

what is Ex-Driver about anyway? Help?

Rally
02-05-02, 10:44 AM
Originally posted by Steathassasn
interesting...Just wondering are there any women who race in Inital D..



Yup! The team, Impact Blue is composed of two females. Although only one of them really drives while the other acts as the navigator of the course. :kawaii:

Steathassasn
02-05-02, 10:52 AM
cool...but whats Ex- Driver about ?

fasad
02-05-02, 11:57 AM
yes, you are right about the skylines driveline. but given the power they have, the front wheels are putting power down most of the time, and always when cornering.
all 4wd cars will understeer in corners, as the front tyres have to grip in both axis (cornering + power) and will loose traction first... any power through the front wheels will make the car go straighter, while power at the rear wheels always helps slide the rear around. the yaw control in skylines (and evos) is what allows them to drive in a more (apparently) neutrally balanced fashion.. it's cheating really. the center of weight of 4wd cars is also nearer the front wheels than rwd (extra diffs etc), so weight balance plays a part too.

!! i'm not very knowledgable at all.. most of my knowledge is theoritical (and may well be wrong).. !! if you want to learn about cars, join a car club or a automotive mailing list.

Takahashi
02-05-02, 02:10 PM
Originally posted by Steathassasn
cool...but whats Ex- Driver about ?
Its a silly ass kiddy anime, about a a bunch of kids, knee high, who could drive a car. What so special about this you say, well because no one else could drive. Apparently in some stupid horrid ugly dumb future, all cars are equip with gps and computer driving system, so you can't own or drive a car:dodgy:*yup its that stupid*, you call and they send a car to you. Murphy law said, when something can go wrong it will go wrong, yes you guessed it, cars starts to get out of control. So when these silly cars get out of control only a bunch of kids with supes up cars can stop them, by blocking the sensors with glue guns*yippee:dodgy:*. It basicly sucks from all sides, story sucks, driving sucks, animation sucky, concept sucks monkeyballs, kids driving super cars sucks fish on a stick.

akaflakes
02-05-02, 05:32 PM
I agree on ex-driver. heard that it was something like Initial d so I decided to check it out. after 10 mins of skimming though i got rid of it. sucks big one. stick with Initial d and be happy

Fasad. There are no good car clubs around here. maybe up in jersey but not in slower lower delaware. All of them are for looks or "check out the intake/exhaust/rims on my civic". or its "put a posi rear on that car with this engine and you'll be doing 12s at the track. whoop didily do. I dont care how fast u go in a line. its nice to have a fast car but if it doesnt turn then its not worth much. since i dont have money growing on trees I cant afford a daily driver and a race car at the same time. well i could but i wouldnt have money to pay rent or any of my other bills. Also all the people working at the local parts shop laugh when ever i come in. They are like "Flakes, what kind of questions do u got this time?" As of a year ago all i knew about cars was that u put oil in the gas tank:p And u seem pretty knowledgeble about what u talk about. so for know ill listen to u just dont dis the evo.

drift on

Steathassasn
04-05-02, 05:44 AM
Ex-Driver cant suck that bad...:lol:

and i know of no car Clubs in jersey ( maybe there are alot of them near the New York area )

also...Inital D manga is out and im trying to hunt it down to no avail..not even my favorite import store carries it :bawls:

oil in the gas tank..thats nothing

try oil/ winshield wiper fuild in the coolant tank :lol:

ooh..that was a intresting mistake

klinky
04-05-02, 06:41 AM
Ex-Driver was a pile of sweet smelling sh*t. What a total waste of time. It's made by the guy who did such greats as You're Under Arrest & the infamous Oh My Goddess. The problem is this guy likes cute stuff and there's no way we can take this stupid anime seriously. Very stupid, like Degracy Valley High or whatever the hell that PBS Canadian hi-school drama was named.

Initial D roxers! I've everything except for the specials... I love it. Iam ready for a fourth stage. I wanna see this Dream Team in action ;)


~klinky

Steathassasn
05-05-02, 01:54 AM
but i liked Oh My Goddess!

anyway...does anyone know the release date for inital D in the us

klinky
05-05-02, 04:36 AM
You're Under Arrest: A realistic quiet anime. Cute and pretty gentle. Nice.

Oh My Goddess: A fairytale of a anime. Cute and adorable, characters are likable. Very good anime.

Ex-Driver: Annoyingly stupid setting, with annoying chracters who look stupid and act stupid.



~klinky

akaflakes
06-05-02, 12:21 AM
no release date that i know of. Ive been trying to keep track of stuff like that. dont even know how much of initial d they are going to release.

If u find a place online that is selling the initial d english manga tell me.

Steathassasn
07-05-02, 10:23 AM
all i know is that it supposidly came out last month and i havent been able to find it

i duno where it is :bawling: its not fair

Steathassasn
10-05-02, 01:26 PM
Inital D is known for its drifts ...so as for something Inital D related

i just wanted you guys to know that Pegout (s.p.) is currently kicking every ones ass in the WRC

i know i know ..its hard to accept but maybe if Toyoda would re enter with a toyoda corrolla and have the guys from intial D drive them

maybe Toyoda would be in the lead instead of at next to last

just figured you wanted to know ...ha...

also ..check animecornerstore.com or this sites store for the intial D manga...im too lazy to look so i figure you would want to make your search there...:lol:

kaia
10-05-02, 03:31 PM
Originally posted by Steathassasn
all i know is that it supposidly came out last month and i havent been able to find it

i duno where it is :bawling: its not fair

i know... ive been looking all over for the initial D manga, since, it had already been released a month ago. but i still couldnt find any of 'em around. i guess its either they're so in demand that they sold out or that they didnt make enought copies.

Takahashi
10-05-02, 04:40 PM
Originally posted by Steathassasn
Inital D is known for its drifts ...so as for something Inital D related

i just wanted you guys to know that Pegout (s.p.) is currently kicking every ones ass in the WRC

i know i know ..its hard to accept but maybe if Toyoda would re enter with a toyoda corrolla and have the guys from intial D drive them

maybe Toyoda would be in the lead instead of at next to last

just figured you wanted to know ...ha...

also ..check animecornerstore.com or this sites store for the intial D manga...im too lazy to look so i figure you would want to make your search there...:lol:
Its Toyota(My dad drives a Toyota Corolla) and Peugeot(use to drive one;) ).

fasad
11-05-02, 04:22 AM
it actually was toyoda, once upon a time

Takahashi
11-05-02, 07:31 AM
I am pretty sure its Toyota (http://www.global.toyota.com/), never even heard of Toyoda before. I did a search on google and all I could find, that is remotely related to automotive is a company which designs and supplies parts for cars.

akaflakes
11-05-02, 08:33 AM
Maybe thats why they call them Yoders where im from. That or everyone is just to lazy to say Toyota.

Steathassasn
12-05-02, 12:06 AM
:: bows :: excuse my bad spelling


toyota :D

akaflakes
12-05-02, 09:10 PM
well I just ordered the 1st novel of Initial d. should get by the end of the week. Ill let everyone who is interested how it is.

by the way, did u know that Initial d is not the only anime that has the evo or the trueno in it.

Steathassasn
12-05-02, 11:44 PM
whats the others !!!!!!!!!

fasad
13-05-02, 03:20 AM
end of evangelion has a ae86 in it for about 3 seconds.. look for a jssdf guy launching a bazooka. i've got a screen-grab somewhere.
it also appears in quite a few real movies, including "the fast and the furious" and a jackie chan movie (thunderbolt??).. he's sponsered by mitsubishi, i think "who am i" has an early lancer evo in it.
the ae86 has been a cult car since it (the ae86) was released, initial d just brought it to the kids and trendies : (

akaflakes
13-05-02, 08:22 AM
in excel saga ep. 26 u get to see a lancer for about 3 seconds.

In some other anime, that i cant remember the name, u get to see a trueno run over someone for about 3 seconds.

thats all I could find. Fasad I have some questions for u. Does the trueno only come in gt apex trim or does it come in other types of trim? What car has more of a cult following the ae86 or the evo? thats all i can think of now.

fasad
15-05-02, 12:02 AM
no , the pop-up lights (trueno) has *nothing* to do with trim level.

imo, ae86 is much more of a cult car because it has not been made for 15 years, making it relatively rare nowdays.. it was designed to be the last and best rwd corolla ever. it was released in almost all parts of the globe as a mass-market, cheap, fun, sporty drive...
evos are high-performance, but "unspecial"... they are very expensive and relatively unattainable unless you live in japan.. anyway, nothing seperates them from any of the other turbo fwd based 4wd cars around, except they have won a few wrc championships recently. the wrx did it all first, and has the funky boxer engine...

finally, the ae86 is "cultish" cause most people think of it just as a corolla, where-as the evo has dicky stickers and wings that make it look fast to anyone... cult implies the general public is unaware of the desirability.

plus, haven't you seen initial-d ?? evos are rubbish compared to ae86.. haha.. initial-d has made everyone want a ae86.....

akaflakes
15-05-02, 12:21 AM
I must admit, after watching Initial D I too wanted an ae86. but just for a cheap beater car to mess around with. There is just something about a family sedan with a giant wing that grabs my attention. That and the evo's have an aftermarket that is almost limitless in what u can get for them.

I guess I should just go to Japan to get an evo. They arent that expensive there. Only like 23k or 24k. something like that. just matters which model and trim. FYI I never found out about the evo's winning streak in WRC until after I had done some research on the car and decided that it would be my next car.

When did evo's get dicky stickers? And giant wings that make a car look fast makes me think of rice(my definition of rice is different than most peoples)

And where Im from no one knows what a Mistubushi Evolution is(thats what my grandfather calls it. he doesnt like imports)
And that makes it desirable to me.

Steathassasn
15-05-02, 07:30 PM
its the same reason i want to turn a Ford Feista into a WRC clone ( it looks like a racer but it isnt ..cheaper that way )

but every one laughs at me...but ill show them..:lol:

the same goes for my Camaro ......hey, i cant afford a new car ..and i want a WRC type car..so..why not make one from scrach :lol:

btw:

i saw Inital D fan subs in my local import store...should i get it ..or should i wait for the dvd

akaflakes
15-05-02, 07:50 PM
I say go for the Hong Kong dvd's. They are pretty good. or just download them from somewhere. they are not hard to find. I myself am going to buy the dvd's when they are released as long as they dont get too expensive. Pointless when i have the hong kong ones but i do like to watch an anime and not read what they are saying.

I would like to see you build a wrc clone when u cant afford a new car. the tranmissions they use cost more than most new cars. stick with building a group n car. its cheaper. Maybe i should listen to my own advice. I want a wrc clone too.

On a side note when I got home today there was a package waiting for me. With great relish I opened it up expecting to see my Initial d graphic novel. Instead I recieved a wall scroll that i ordered and a receipt sayin that my graphic novel was on back order. man am i sad. I was hoping to have it soon.

Steathassasn
17-05-02, 05:26 AM
:lol: its a clone rember ....it dosent have to have the most expensive trans. only look like a WRC racer

lets see...Suburu Justy....600$ :eek:

:lol: add a roof scoup and a few performance mods, roll cage , and cool paint scheme and you have a clone that will probly cost around 6,000$

cheap no..:D

and i feel for you man...waiting is always the hardest part

and im gona stick it out and wait for the Inital D dvd's to come to the US....i dont mind subtittles ..but..i would like to enjoy the same show in english ..

wonder what the characters are gona sound like....hope to god they dont screw up the dubbing..or im gona be ....angry:kaioken:

ParticleEffect
17-05-02, 04:41 PM
to bad i havnt seen any real cars in initial d :D.

rice burners and big drifts are nice and all, but nothing compares to massive downforce in one of these...

0-60 in 3.1, top speed of around 240 MILES per hour. center mounted seat. yeasssss.



anyways, im up to ep 20 of the 1st stage and im very much enjoying initial d.

akaflakes
17-05-02, 06:17 PM
:smash: particleeffect:smash:

atleast 90% of people can afford a rice burner. who can afford a mcleran or how ever it is spelled.

besides the only fake car is the ae86. the rest of them are kinda nice. Im even beginning to like civics. shudders. cant believe i just said that

Steathassasn
18-05-02, 01:34 AM
whats wrong with civics

heck ..im worse..i like neons and festias

and the coupe version of the focus

so..whats worse ..a ford or a honda?:lol:

fasad
18-05-02, 03:45 AM
Originally posted by akaflakes
besides the only fake car is the ae86.

eh, whats this all about ??

ParticleEffect
18-05-02, 06:38 AM
hehe, i was just f'in around, yaknow, like a f1 makes other cars look like kids stuff. but if your going to drop ~80-90k, id rather grab a porsche than a skyline, hell i thnk you can grab a 911 carrera for like 65k.

nothing wrong with a ford though, i drive a mustang. and ive seen some nice focuses, though i like the mustang alot more.

gues i best start slangin candy again if i want a nice ride. :lol:

ParticleEffect
18-05-02, 07:23 AM
ford factory svt site (http://www.svt.ford.com/flash/index.html)

the 03 svt mustang is damn nice to me for the $ it costs, 390 hp.

akaflakes
18-05-02, 03:14 PM
Honda is better than ford. atleast for reliability.

Particle Effect. I knew you were joking. so was I. and I would never buy a skyline over a 911. that isnt even a comparison. skyline=too heavy. but with all that money you could buy a killer evo:D

and whats this slangin candy. is that what i think it is. maybe you should be the one to be called Flakes

^FallenAngel^
20-05-02, 02:19 AM
This msg got NOTHING to do with the cars...

but my friend's wondering... does anyone know the song they played during the race in da snow when Tasumi raced to get the gf?? Iit's in Battle Stage....

Thanks!

ParticleEffect
20-05-02, 07:40 AM
i just finished the 1st stage. it had a pretty good ending, they couldve stoped right there and not gone on with a 2nd+ stage and id have though it was still great. ill start 2nd stage tomaro.

about the song, i duno b/c im not there yet :o

about me hustlin and slangin, its probably what you think it is. fast cars, fast money. :lol:

and i went to my local super huge ford dealer, but sadly, they wont get their 1st few svt cobras in for another few weeks.

akaflakes
20-05-02, 09:49 AM
I just got done listening to the song to see if I knew it. I dont. Have they released the battle stage ost yet? I would search for a song called Dancing in my Dreams or something like that. sounds to me like that could be the name of the song.

I finally got the first graphic novel of Initial d this weekend. Translation was good except for two minor errors that really makes me think that the people doing the translations know nothing about cars. Anime seems to go directly by the novel so far. all in all it was a great purchase. Cant wait for the next one to come out in June.

^FallenAngel^
20-05-02, 11:24 PM
Thanks anyway akaflakes! :)

ParticleEffect
22-05-02, 11:59 AM
wow, the animation sure does change for the 2nd stage. its such a bad drop, hair colors are even different, like black is now brown. *grumble* that pisses me off.

akaflakes
22-05-02, 08:22 PM
Maybe everyone just dyed their hair. Just be happy that they change their clothes.

How are you watching it. fansub or dvd?

ParticleEffect
23-05-02, 07:30 AM
fansubs

ParticleEffect
29-05-02, 01:39 PM
anyone wana aim me stage2 ep 11 and 3rd stage? any dub, aslong as its subed. its being a real ----- getting them and i just gotta find out what happens. :D

is 2nd stage + even liscenced in the states yet?

<- aim

Steathassasn
30-05-02, 06:30 AM
2nd stage....they havent even brought the first stage over yet..and your already talking about the secound ?

oy vey..

ParticleEffect
30-05-02, 04:34 PM
ive seen up till 10 of the 2nd in fansubs, i have battle stage and extra stage waiting also.

must, see, what, happens.

klinky
31-05-02, 08:27 AM
Man I've seen the entire series 'cept for the "specials" which are recaps I can live without..... First, Second, Third Stage(The Movie!!!) . All of which kick ass. Third Stage has awesome animation....


I want a Fourth stage :bawling:



~klinky

ParticleEffect
31-05-02, 12:57 PM
yaknow, for saying that, i gotta ask. :D

<- aim?

Steathassasn
03-06-02, 04:52 AM
does anyone know if Tokyo Pop has posted a release date yet