Opinnions

[SenshiNaka]

Ok for my site (which will go unmentioned due to breaking of rules) im doing an unanswered questions section.
I was just wondering if any of you wanted to state your opinnion on the following question, and i will post it on my site (if you want me to).

If Saito and Kenshin had one last fight who would have won?

Please answer thoughtfully and Include the name you want me to give credit to and your e-mail address if you want that included...

For Example this is what i said:

I think that Saito and Kenshins battle would have been a very long fight, both of them would probably suffer from serious wounds and injuries. I think that Saito would have been at somewhat of an advantage tho, because of his keen health. I think in the end Saito would probably win, but Saito would leave seriously injured. I think that mabye if Kenshin was in good health then he would come out on top, but over years of fighting Kenshin's body has become weak. Plus with his vow not to kill it would make it even harder to win.

Thx

[Antioch-X]

Originally posted by SenshiNaka
Ok for my site (which will go unmentioned due to breaking of rules) im doing an unanswered questions section.
I was just wondering if any of you wanted to state your opinnion on the following question, and i will post it on my site (if you want me to).

If Saito and Kenshin had one last fight who would have won?

Please answer thoughtfully and Include the name you want me to give credit to and your e-mail address if you want that included...

For Example this is what i said:

I think that Saito and Kenshins battle would have been a very long fight, both of them would probably suffer from serious wounds and injuries. I think that Saito would have been at somewhat of an advantage tho, because of his keen health. I think in the end Saito would probably win, but Saito would leave seriously injured. I think that mabye if Kenshin was in good health then he would come out on top, but over years of fighting Kenshin's body has become weak. Plus with his vow not to kill it would make it even harder to win.

Thx Om this has already been answered by the creator of Rurouni Kenshin, Nobuhiro Watsuki: he said Saitou would win, but not if Kenshin was protecting something/someone. I personally find it quite strange that he would say this seeing as how easily Shishio-sama dispatched Saitou in their little showdown, and Kenshin was the only one able to go toe-to-toe with Shishio-sama (though only after he went "Super Saiyajin" :lol: ). Weird how Saitou can be such a threat to Kenshin, as in the beginning of the Kyoto Arc, and such a pushover vs Shishio-sama even when using his Zero Stance, which he never got to use on Kenshin. Perhaps Mr. Watsuki was only referring to a rematch between them before the Amakakeru Ryu no Hirameki came into play and Kenshin was still susceptible to becoming battousai?

[Wakizashi]

Kenshin's only chance to win is turning battousai, which could happen considering Saito's mental edge. Even then though, Saito was still holding his own. At the end, Saito also showed a clear advantage in hand to hand combat. If you look at the first fight, basically the first thing that happens is Kenshin getting skewered. At the end of the fight they were really trying to kill each other, but at that point Saito was still testing him and pushing him to battousai. If Saito truly wanted to kill him right off the bat the sword wouldn't have gone through Kenshin's side, it would have gone through his heart.

Physical fight, Saito wins.
Mental fight Saito wins (Kenshin is not the master of mind-raping, Saito is)

[Alesil]

*sigh* This old question again. I do believe there are quite a few threads about this already.

First of all, logic doesn't apply to Rurouni Kenshin. Watsuki created an intresting story allright, but there are huge gaps in the logic. It doesn't make sense, but that doesn't make RK that much worse to me.

First of all, mind-raping is not really the most PC term to use here. Won't make my eyes bleed or anything, but remember this place has a lot of kids posting. :)

What do you mean with Saitous mental edge? Kenshin if anybody is the #1 battlefield therapist of the story, only rarely winning a fight by being a superior fighter. All Saitou ever did was provoke his opponent.

The dojo fight is a bit dodgy to use as an argument for one side or the other. For the first half Saitou was only testing Kenshin and for the other half he had totally changed and was badly wounded. After the battle little had changed with Saitou as far as we know and Kenshin had improved insanely much. He learned how to "surpass the Battousai without becomming him", not to mention Kuzu Ryu Sen and Ama Kakeru Ryu No Hirameki.

To dig up the two last Hiten Mitsurugi Ryu techniques again, I see no way Saitou could counter them. Kenshin on the other hand already defeated the Gatotsu several times and judging by the way attacks don't work well if your opponent has learned them in RK, he should be able to do it easily in the future.

I do believe the thing about "Kenshin only winning if he had someone to protect" was either said before the story was finished, or Watsuki meant the new Kenshin that had gone through the succession rites of Hiten Mitsurugi Ryu and had something to live for. Either one of those, or he has no idea what he's talking about. :D

[Naraku]

If Kenshin were to go all crazy Battousai, and protecting someone, he would win, just because that's the type of person he is. He has a will to keep fighting that none of them have.

[Westlo]

Watsuki said Saito would win last year at AX which I believe is after the series was completed :)

Look at it this way, Fighter A would beat Fighter B but loose to Fighter C who lost to Fighter B. Some fighters fair better against different opponents.

Aoshi could barely stand after Kenshin hit him with the succession tech and yet defended himself from Shishio for a suitable amount of time and wasn't knocked out like Kenshin, Shishio & Sano were.

Does that make him stronger than that bunch of warriors even though Kenshin defeated him before that?

To dig up the two last Hiten Mitsurugi Ryu techniques again, I see no way Saitou could counter them

A technique means nothing if you can't use it, Shishio and his final technique is a good example.

[Alesil]

Originally posted by Westlo
Watsuki said Saito would win last year at AX which I believe is after the series was completed :)

Ok, thanks for clearing that up.

Look at it this way, Fighter A would beat Fighter B but loose to Fighter C who lost to Fighter B. Some fighters fair better against different opponents.

Aoshi could barely stand after Kenshin hit him with the succession tech and yet defended himself from Shishio for a suitable amount of time and wasn't knocked out like Kenshin, Shishio & Sano were.

Buying time by just defending and actually trying to fight someone are two totally different things. It took him a fair amount of time to able to walk after taking that hit, he himself said it was much lighter than the blow Shishio took and Shishio still stood after taking it head-on.

Does that make him stronger than that bunch of warriors even though Kenshin defeated him before that?

To dig up the two last Hiten Mitsurugi Ryu techniques again, I see no way Saitou could counter them

A technique means nothing if you can't use it, Shishio and his final technique is a good example.

Who says Kenshin can't you the two techniques? He seems to have had little trouble using them before. Also, Shishio quite certainly knew how to use his, but wasn't exactly expecting a vacuum to open in front of him. :D

[SenshiNaka]

Ok do i have everyones permission to put these on my site?

[Naraku]

I don't see why you wouldn't, people already posted, knowing you would......Can you at leats PM me the site?

[Alesil]

Go ahead, even though it's more of a debate than oppinions. :)