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orochi X
07-10-04, 03:40 AM
Well first episode has been fansubbed, downloaded and just watched it then.
Hmm well you can't make much of a judgement from only being able to see the first episode but I liked what I saw, I like Kubotite's art ala Zombie Powder (I want an ending sigh) and the Bleach manga. Ichigo was kicking at the end of the episode when he absorbed the Death God's powers and took out that hollow.
I look foward to episode 2, and just a question how many episodes have they scheduled for the series?
Fatal Outlaw
07-10-04, 08:40 PM
I liked the first episode, despite the changes they made, minor...but annoying...good nonetheless :p
I look foward to episode 2, and just a question how many episodes have they scheduled for the series?
No one knows, seeing that the anime is still going, and currently on volume 13, I'd say it'd go for 100+ episodes. If you do the math, 13 volumes worth of manga converts to approximately 100-104 episodes, assuming that each chapter is one episode (took that into consideration and made an estimate) and each volume is 8 chapters long.
on simpler terms, it IS a popular shonen jump manga, so i'd say it'd be long.
The first episode was fairly good. The animation was solid, with even a bit of experimentation (i.e. in the color and usage of lighting) to make it feel different from all the other shounen anime out there. The opening and ending themes are good. The opening especially is kick-ass. The ending felt a bit out-of-place, but it's a very pretty song.
What I really like from the manga are the characters, though. They're the backbone of the show and take it from being a typical high-school-boy-becomes-badass-fighter series. So for the anime, I was glad at their choices of seiyuu. Ichigo was given the perfect voice, just like I'd imagine it from reading the manga. They seemed to do a good job acting out the first episode.
I'm looking forward to the second episode.
orochi X
08-10-04, 02:53 AM
Hmm if they do decide to make it a very long series .., sigh I hope I can be bothered to keep on following it and not lose interest.
And yes the opening theme is kick ass, that song by Orange Range is real catchy .. "G O O D Y" Is it from an album or a single of theirs, or have they not released it yet?
ACE2001
08-10-04, 04:25 AM
Yeah, I definately digged the first episode. The opening had a "funky" 70's vibe going into it. If the anime follows closely to the manga, then this sure to be the next "Naruto" of anime. I've read all the way up to chapter 150 of the manga and I must say that I am pleased with the route it is going. But, I don't know how long I am going to stick with the anime as I get my Bleach fix every Friday here in Japan. :)
Splintr420
08-10-04, 08:05 AM
Is it really called just "Bleach"? sounds interesting, I'm trying to find stuff about it on the internet, not turning up anything.
orochi X
08-10-04, 09:09 AM
Yes the series is just called Bleach, it's about a 15 year old boy called Ichigo (the guy in my avatar) who can see dead spirits. He meets a girl who is a shinigami/god of death who hunts evil spirits called Hollows .. blah blah this and that happen resulting in the god of death's powers being transferred to Ichigo.
And here are some sites:
http://www.animenfo.com/animetitle,1582,wkkkkd,bleach.html
http://www.tv-tokyo.co.jp/anime/bleach/
Darklightz
08-10-04, 09:39 AM
A girl?I'm pretty sure the Shinigami is a guy.
So far the story holds together,but I hope they'll do more than just fight a bunch of random Hollow every episode.
PS:I don't know much of japanese mythology,however from what I've seen of Shinigamis,it seems you can become one if you suicide.Or is it a coincidence that most Shinigamis have commited suicide in their previous life (ex:Takuto from Full Moon wo Sagashite)
WierdIsraeli
08-10-04, 05:37 PM
Hmmm, from the episode 2 preview I saw in the end of ep 1, the death god who gave ichigo his power is a girl, or it's a guy who loves wearing a girl's school uniform.
Yes, it is a girl named Rukia. She's also wearing dresses in the opening sequence, so if you don't believe me, rewatch it.
And yes the opening theme is kick ass, that song by Orange Range is real catchy .. "G O O D Y" Is it from an album or a single of theirs, or have they not released it yet?
It's actually called "Asterisk," or in Japanese "*~アスタリスク~." I don't think it's on an album. I haven't been able to find much on it on the internet, and you betcha I've been looking.
Splintr420
08-10-04, 07:33 PM
How does the series go in manga? I mean, is any of it translated to english and purcahsable in america? and what volume is it on?
ACE2001
08-10-04, 08:33 PM
The manga is licensed right now. Got licensed over a little while ago. It's up to Vol. 13 here in Japan. I just read chapter 152 in Weekley Jump here in Japan. Ichigo has become a "beast". Kicking ass and taking no prisoners. It's going to be tough to watch the anime for me, but for those just tuning in, stay in for the long haul, you'll definately like what you'll see later. :)
Splintr420
08-10-04, 08:37 PM
So nothing in english yet?
ACE2001
08-10-04, 08:40 PM
Yes, it's in english right now. Sorry if I was clear. Viz has it right now.
P.S. If you want the translated manga, PM me.
So nothing in english yet?
Two volumes are out in the US, with a third coming up sometime really soon. Viz's website isn't that helpful, so don't bother looking for info on upcoming volumes there. They do have limited info on the two volumes that are out.
ACE2001
08-10-04, 08:49 PM
Two Volumes......geez Viz is what, 11 behind.....It'd be much easier just to download it on the good ole internet. :lol: :)
P.S. This thread has gained alot a views in a couple days....
Splintr420
08-10-04, 08:51 PM
How long does it take for Viz to publish a volume of manga?
orochi X
08-10-04, 08:57 PM
It's actually called "Asterisk," or in Japanese "*~アスタリスク~." I don't think it's on an album. I haven't been able to find much on it on the internet, and you betcha I've been looking.
Yeah, I just like the "G O O D Y" part of the song. I've been going through Yesasia checking out the tracklistings for Orange Range albums and singles and sigh no find. Ohwell just have to keep watching the opening scene :)
Splintr420
08-10-04, 10:46 PM
Is there a website anywhere in english about this anime? i seriously can't find a thing.
orochi X
09-10-04, 12:14 AM
This anime is new there will not be many english fan sites around for the anime (hmm maybe I should start a Bleach anime website ..), though there are a few for the manga: http://bleach.salad-days.org/ then just go to the 'links' section of that site for a few more websites on the Bleach manga
Yeah, I just like the "G O O D Y" part of the song.
Ah. I couldn't decide if you thought that was the name or if you just wanted to say "G O O D Y." :lol:
Anyway... yeah. Great song. If only I could find the full version of it.
Fatal Outlaw
09-10-04, 12:53 PM
Is there a website anywhere in english about this anime? i seriously can't find a thing.
http://www.bleachworld.com/ is going up soon, it's going to be one of the best Bleach websites because it's associated with one of the best naruto websites (I won't give the address cause the site has links to the Naruto fansubs, a big no no in anime forum rules). For the meantime, http://www.animenewsnetwork.com/encyclopedia/anime.php?id=4240
Two Volumes......geez Viz is what, 11 behind.....It'd be much easier just to download it on the good ole internet.
P.S. This thread has gained alot a views in a couple days....
:rolleyes: you know, the manga IS licensed, it's a BAD idea to condone illegal material. Hell, it's illegal whether or not the manga is licensed. Anyhow, splintr420, you're better off buying the official release from Viz.
Splintr420
09-10-04, 02:10 PM
oh i know that. i would really hate to get busted by the police or whatever for having illegal stuff in my house
ACE2001
11-10-04, 05:00 AM
http://www.bleachworld.com/ is going up soon, it's going to be one of the best Bleach websites because it's associated with one of the best naruto websites (I won't give the address cause the site has links to the Naruto fansubs, a big no no in anime forum rules). For the meantime, http://www.animenewsnetwork.com/encyclopedia/anime.php?id=4240
:rolleyes: you know, the manga IS licensed, it's a BAD idea to condone illegal material. Hell, it's illegal whether or not the manga is licensed. Anyhow, splintr420, you're better off buying the official release from Viz.
No kidding, I KNOW IT'S LICENSED!!! That's why I told him to P.M. if he wants it through online translations. You know, since I am here in JAPAN maybe I could've actually scanned them up myself and translated for him. Just because it's licensed in states doesn't mean that I can't point him in the right direction for the latest chapters.
For example, Naruto is licensed as well. But you won't see many people buying the Viz version, why? Because you can EASILY get the latest chapters throughout the internet. Why wait almost 3 months for a Couple of chapters when you get a chance to keep up with what the Japanese are reading every week. If he wants to read Bleach badliy, then I am going to point him in the right direction via P.M. As long I don't post the link in public, it's not hurting you or anyone else.
Fan-subbing itself is somewhat illgeal, but we watch it anyway, anytime we please. Whom are you to say what is right and what is wrong. Hell, I am in Japan right now reading Naruto, but ITS licensed in states so does that put me in the wrong? Geez, I am just trying to help a fellow anime fan out. Ultimately it's his decision whether or not he wants to wait. I am not here to force it down his throat. I'm letting him know it's out there.
Splintr420, I am sure the police wouldn't bust down your door and arrest you downloading licensed anime or manga. Oh my god, the day that would happen is when hell freezes over.
Bottom line, yeah it's illegal, somewhat (since I am in Japan and can read some Japanese it's legal for me!!! :p ) but let people download what they want. It's not our place to make a person feel bad for dowloading licensed material. Hey, maybe they intend to buy it once released. :)
I apologize for the blabbering, but I feel that Fatal Outlaw was playing the police here and I didn't see the need for it as long as were discreet with the information.
Splintr420
11-10-04, 07:37 AM
Regarding fansubs, it is really REALLY stupid to have to wait forever for the dubs of the show to come out, and i hate dubs. Like with Inuyasha, its to 167, and the dubs are only at 52 or so. I'm not waiting 3 years for them to finish, no way.
Fatal Outlaw
12-10-04, 06:49 PM
No kidding, I KNOW IT'S LICENSED!!! That's why I told him to P.M. if he wants it through online translations. Just because it's licensed in states doesn't mean that I can't point him in the right direction for the latest chapters.
First things first, yes, I know that I have no right to tell people what's right and wrong, it's more of an ethic issue. If you feel like you can just steal ---- that does not help or contribute the original creator's work, then go right ahead. The point of my previous post was, condoning illegal stuff (especially if it's licensed) is looked down upon in most anime sites/forums, if I actually told a mod about this, he'd give you a warning, but of course, I won't. Also, let me tell you that I have almost 10 gigs of unwatched fansubs in my hardrive, so I AM NOT against fansubs whatsoever, it's just that when it's licensed is what irritates me. If Bleach wasn't licensed at all, then I wouldn't care one bit. now...
You know, since I am here in JAPAN maybe I could've actually scanned them up myself and translated for him.
well, since you're there (and since you said you could have translated it for him, I'm assuming yuou can read Japanese), can't you buy the latest Shonen Jump OR the latest GN's instead of d/ling off the net? If you're excuse is to get the latest chapters, then why would you download if you can easily walk out and buy SJ or the GN's? It's pretty popular you know, you'll find it easily.
For example, Naruto is licensed as well. But you won't see many people buying the Viz version,
Is that the reason why the Naruto GN's always make the list of top ten graphic novels sold every time a new volume comes out? Is that also the reason why Shonen Jump US exceeded to their quota once they included Naruto in their lineup (issue 3)?
why? Because you can EASILY get the latest chapters throughout the internet. Why wait almost 3 months for a Couple of chapters when you get a chance to keep up with what the Japanese are reading every week.
You may be true on that one, but what about people that aren't caught up?
That will mean that they will have to download material that has been legally published here in the States. That's just stealing isn't it?
If he wants to read Bleach badliy, then I am going to point him in the right direction via P.M.
The right direction is to get original material. It's perfectly fine if the series wasn't licensed since there's no alternative (other than buying the Japanese release). Unless the right direction for you is to rip off the original creator, then yea, it's the right direction :rolleyes:
As long I don't post the link in public, it's not hurting you or anyone else.
I'll PM you the email/phone number of Shuiesha (or whoever published SJ) and Tite Kubo(author), ask them if it's hurting them.
Fan-subbing itself is somewhat illgeal, but we watch it anyway, anytime we please. Whom are you to say what is right and what is wrong.
As I said up top, I watch fansubs myself, except I stop when it's licensed. I am in NO way telling you that you are wrong, watch fansubs as you please and d/l manga as you please, it's your choice. but condoning it when it's licensed is what's wrong. Yes, it's up to the person if he wants to do it, but the right direction here is, suggest the original material. Hell, if you said "Check out the original release, if you want more you can d/l the manga," then I would have been fine with that, it defeats the purpose of buying it and it's still illegal, but at least you supported the creator.
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Hell, I am in Japan right now reading Naruto, but ITS licensed in states so does that put me in the wrong? [/quote]
No. that's your choice. Go to the bookstore, laugh at the release (such as your previous post), and suggest people to screw the official release and d/l the manga instead? WRONG. Note that I looked into it deep and you meant it different, I am just giving an example.
Splintr420, I am sure the police wouldn't bust down your door and arrest you downloading licensed anime or manga. Oh my god, the day that would happen is when hell freezes over.
Not releated, but similar:
http://media.ebaumsworld.com/RIAA_PSA.mpg
(right click, save target as)
I'm letting him know it's out there.
I'm letting him know that an official release is out there.
Bottom line, yeah it's illegal, somewhat (since I am in Japan and can read some Japanese it's legal for me!!! :p )
Wait...so are you d/ling the manga in Japanese or are you buying it Japanese? if you bought the original tankouban, then it's legal, even if it's licened here in the US.
Hey, maybe they intend to buy it once released. :)
the thing is...the Bleach manga is already released.
I apologize for the blabbering, but I feel that Fatal Outlaw was playing the police here and I didn't see the need for it as long as were discreet with the information.
Playing police? IIRC, all i said was it's bad to condone illegal material and suggested Splinr420 to buy the original release. When you look at it, you're suggesting one thing and I'm suggesting another thing. Tell me where I said that he should not d/l. I used the term "better off" to indicate quality in the long run, and was not a command. If I should guess, you looked waaay into it, I don't blame you, especially with the sarcastic smilie I put in there.
As for being discreet, you do know that you put it up in the forums for everyone to see, Being discreet is PM'ing him and ask him if he wanted translated manga, not putting it up here. I know becuase I received a warning before for doing the same EXACT thing. <--which proves I'm not against fansubs, except whatever I watch isn't licensed.
if you got anything else to reply, jsut PM me, there's no place for inconsistent and contradictory in this thread. Let me assure you that if you did this (condoning illegal material when already licensed) on other bigger forums (like AoD), you'll get banned from the spot. you would have gotte na warning if the mods weren't slacking.
Pengi_Ken-Ohki
12-10-04, 08:19 PM
Now you have me curious =(
As to fansubs and whatnot.. I think there's a huge problem in that a large number of fans for anime are Uni students.
Fatal Outlaw
12-10-04, 09:44 PM
Now you have me curious =(
As to fansubs and whatnot.. I think there's a huge problem in that a large number of fans for anime are Uni students.
Yep, like myself. The MPAA is actually starting to crack down on university students, 4 guys actually got suspended according to my prof. (or about to).
EDIT: I'd add this to my previous post to ACE2001, but it's long already:
from the rules:
9. NO selling or distribution or discussion of illegal or copyrighted materials on this board.
Of course, they don't care about fansubs as long as the title isn't licensed, which is why this thread (and others on the forum) exists. Offering someone to PM you is distribution of sorts (I prefer the term 'sharing'). I hate to be a prick, I normally don't do this, but I've been used to following the rules after becoming an anime reporter for a website.
Splintr420
12-10-04, 09:54 PM
Suspended for... downloading fansubs?
Fatal Outlaw
12-10-04, 09:59 PM
Suspended for... downloading fansubs?
Movies, the MPAA is the Motion Picture Association of America. Last year, it was the RIAA who were suing people left and right for downloading illegal music. It was kinda off topic. For fansubs, the companies are targeting the distributors, not the actual downloaders, so we can d/l all we want.
Fatal Outlaw
12-10-04, 10:03 PM
Regarding fansubs, it is really REALLY stupid to have to wait forever for the dubs of the show to come out, and i hate dubs. Like with Inuyasha, its to 167, and the dubs are only at 52 or so. I'm not waiting 3 years for them to finish, no way.
Well, hey, it's your choice. Except it's kinda hard to d/l a licensed series unless you're caught up becuase most groups stop subbing a series once it's licensed. I dont know the case with Inu Yasha though.
Also, the dub is actually at 70 something. starting november, IY is moving to weeknights with new episodes and will go all the way through episode 104 with the dub.
Splintr420
12-10-04, 10:26 PM
Oh wow, i didn't know if was that far along. And good point on the licencing. Its better to be safe than sorry.
Fatal Outlaw
12-10-04, 11:39 PM
Oh wow, i didn't know if was that far along. And good point on the licencing. Its better to be safe than sorry.
Well, thats the manga. The anime is NOT licensed, so it's safe to d/l fansubs (can't tell you where though). At this point, we're all watching Bleach in fansub form.
To get back on topic, Bleach ep. 2 just aired. Thoughts on that tomorow evening.
Splintr420
13-10-04, 12:05 AM
Wow, i just watched ep. 1. I guess I'll have to do some adjusting. Im used to Inuyasha and Ranma 1/2. I really liked it though. Has a good story line, great animation too. I'm excited.
ACE2001
13-10-04, 06:58 AM
First things first, yes, I know that I have no right to tell people what's right and wrong, it's more of an ethic issue. If you feel like you can just steal ---- that does not help or contribute the original creator's work, then go right ahead. The point of my previous post was, condoning illegal stuff (especially if it's licensed) is looked down upon in most anime sites/forums, if I actually told a mod about this, he'd give you a warning, but of course, I won't. Also, let me tell you that I have almost 10 gigs of unwatched fansubs in my hardrive, so I AM NOT against fansubs whatsoever, it's just that when it's licensed is what irritates me. If Bleach wasn't licensed at all, then I wouldn't care one bit. now...
well, since you're there (and since you said you could have translated it for him, I'm assuming yuou can read Japanese), can't you buy the latest Shonen Jump OR the latest GN's instead of d/ling off the net? If you're excuse is to get the latest chapters, then why would you download if you can easily walk out and buy SJ or the GN's? It's pretty popular you know, you'll find it easily.
Is that the reason why the Naruto GN's always make the list of top ten graphic novels sold every time a new volume comes out? Is that also the reason why Shonen Jump US exceeded to their quota once they included Naruto in their lineup (issue 3)?
You may be true on that one, but what about people that aren't caught up?
That will mean that they will have to download material that has been legally published here in the States. That's just stealing isn't it?
The right direction is to get original material. It's perfectly fine if the series wasn't licensed since there's no alternative (other than buying the Japanese release). Unless the right direction for you is to rip off the original creator, then yea, it's the right direction :rolleyes:
I'll PM you the email/phone number of Shuiesha (or whoever published SJ) and Tite Kubo(author), ask them if it's hurting them.
As I said up top, I watch fansubs myself, except I stop when it's licensed. I am in NO way telling you that you are wrong, watch fansubs as you please and d/l manga as you please, it's your choice. but condoning it when it's licensed is what's wrong. Yes, it's up to the person if he wants to do it, but the right direction here is, suggest the original material. Hell, if you said "Check out the original release, if you want more you can d/l the manga," then I would have been fine with that, it defeats the purpose of buying it and it's still illegal, but at least you supported the creator.
Hell, I am in Japan right now reading Naruto, but ITS licensed in states so does that put me in the wrong? [/quote]
No. that's your choice. Go to the bookstore, laugh at the release (such as your previous post), and suggest people to screw the official release and d/l the manga instead? WRONG. Note that I looked into it deep and you meant it different, I am just giving an example.
Not releated, but similar:
http://media.ebaumsworld.com/RIAA_PSA.mpg
(right click, save target as)
I'm letting him know that an official release is out there.
Wait...so are you d/ling the manga in Japanese or are you buying it Japanese? if you bought the original tankouban, then it's legal, even if it's licened here in the US.
the thing is...the Bleach manga is already released.
Playing police? IIRC, all i said was it's bad to condone illegal material and suggested Splinr420 to buy the original release. When you look at it, you're suggesting one thing and I'm suggesting another thing. Tell me where I said that he should not d/l. I used the term "better off" to indicate quality in the long run, and was not a command. If I should guess, you looked waaay into it, I don't blame you, especially with the sarcastic smilie I put in there.
As for being discreet, you do know that you put it up in the forums for everyone to see, Being discreet is PM'ing him and ask him if he wanted translated manga, not putting it up here. I know becuase I received a warning before for doing the same EXACT thing. <--which proves I'm not against fansubs, except whatever I watch isn't licensed.
if you got anything else to reply, jsut PM me, there's no place for inconsistent and contradictory in this thread. Let me assure you that if you did this (condoning illegal material when already licensed) on other bigger forums (like AoD), you'll get banned from the spot. you would have gotte na warning if the mods weren't slacking.[/QUOTE]
I've been here for almost 4 years and this is the respect I get!!! :lol: J/K Fatal Outlaw, I understand where you are coming from with your statement. All I am saying is this, there are translated pages of Bleach out there. Nothing is stopping Splintr420 from downloading them regardless weither it's licensed. Believe me, I am fan of Bleach, which is why I buy Weekly Jump every Friday here in Japan. I hardly download my manga. What's the point? I get the latest chapters like the Japanese do, so no real need for me...
What I am trying to illustrate is this, people in America don't have the same "luxury" as do. I'm lucky to be here in Japan, able to read the latest of what ever manga I want. Now, if I wanted to translate the "LATEST CHAPTER" for them that shouldn't be a problem. In no shape or form I am saying "don't support the creator." That's what I am not about here. But (I'm estimating around a good 60%) of anime fans don't feel that way. They see it as cheap access to download off the net. Some don't have the money nor the time to buy the GN, so what the hell. They're thinking, not only I don't have to pay for this, I can read the latest chapter with the Japanese for FREE. You tend to forget that most people aren't really into anime, more like casual people just watching for the heck of it.
Believe me, if you were to come in my room right now Fatal Outlaw, you wouldn't believe how much I support the anime industry and creators because I like anime alot which is why I am going out of my way to help him.
Bottom line, I apologize if I came off as a leecher whom doesn't believe in supporting the creator. I realize my mistake and I apologize for it. :) In the end, I am just trying to help.
Splintr420
13-10-04, 09:36 AM
A lot of people DO support the industry. I know a do too. But I don't really want to pay thousands of dollars so I can watch a series. If you care that much, download the series, and then buy the manga or somethin'. thats what i'm doing.
Splintr420
13-10-04, 08:07 PM
After watching the episode and letting it sink in for a while, despite the odd music and different style, I really started falling in love with it. But i was wondering about the Shinigami. In Inu Yasha, they are just servants that fly around, but in Bleach, she said that she was a "death god". Whats that about? What is the japanese history of these things?
Fatal Outlaw
13-10-04, 09:33 PM
What I am trying to illustrate is this, people in America don't have the same "luxury" as do. I'm lucky to be here in Japan, able to read the latest of what ever manga I want. Now, if I wanted to translate the "LATEST CHAPTER" for them that shouldn't be a problem. In no shape or form I am saying "don't support the creator." That's what I am not about here. But (I'm estimating around a good 60%) of anime fans don't feel that way. They see it as cheap access to download off the net. Some don't have the money nor the time to buy the GN, so what the hell. They're thinking, not only I don't have to pay for this, I can read the latest chapter with the Japanese for FREE. You tend to forget that most people aren't really into anime, more like casual people just watching for the heck of it.
Believe me, if you were to come in my room right now Fatal Outlaw, you wouldn't believe how much I support the anime industry and creators because I like anime alot which is why I am going out of my way to help him.
Bottom line, I apologize if I came off as a leecher whom doesn't believe in supporting the creator. I realize my mistake and I apologize for it. :) In the end, I am just trying to help.
I wasn't debating that, I believe it's a misunderstanding as I d/l anime AND manga myself. I wasn't saying "dont download fansubs or manga cuz its the evil evar111!!" at all, the point was, there's an official release out there and as much as possible, support it, but i can't help it if you d/l it or whatnot.
anyway, just watched episode 2, if I should rate it out of 10, i'd give it a 7. The episode was quite good but it didn't really grab me. It was interesting, especially with Rukia's adjustment in Japan (quite funny). Here's to next week's episode.
Splintr420
13-10-04, 09:47 PM
How often are the episodes of Bleach suposed to be released, ie one every week?
Fatal Outlaw
13-10-04, 11:26 PM
How often are the episodes of Bleach suposed to be released, ie one every week?
Once a week. It's currently airing in Japan, which means we are seeing it the same time (or a day later, rather) as them.
Splintr420
13-10-04, 11:30 PM
I've been wondering this all along. How do you see these episodes, are they on satellite TV or something? I don't even speak japanese, so it wouldn't do me that much good, but where do you find it?
orochi X
14-10-04, 04:41 AM
anyway, just watched episode 2, if I should rate it out of 10, i'd give it a 7. The episode was quite good but it didn't really grab me. It was interesting, especially with Rukia's adjustment in Japan (quite funny). Here's to next week's episode.
Yes I just watched episode 2 myself now
EPISODE 2 SPOILERS AHOY
A good episode again nothing outstanding. Yes it was quite amusing watching Rukia as a student with her happy cheerful disguise, I liked it when Ichigo found out that Rukia was sleeping in his closet :D .. and Inoue is one wierd silly girl. Anyway I look foward to episode 3 aswell.
Inoue is one wierd silly girl.
Ho, boy. You can say that again. When she went into those strange spastic motions imagining Ichigo with... guns and violence... :lol: Crazy girl.
Good episode. I liked it better than the first, actually. Many comedic moments, and for some reason the animation seemed better to me in this episode than it did in the first. Am I just imagining things?
Anyway. Not sure if anyone noticed, but the method for becoming a Hollow has changed. I haven't read that far into the manga, but the guy became a Hollow through other means (left purposely vague for possible spoilers). Seems strange to change it.
I'm looking forward to episode 3.
ACE2001
14-10-04, 05:04 AM
I've been wondering this all along. How do you see these episodes, are they on satellite TV or something? I don't even speak japanese, so it wouldn't do me that much good, but where do you find it?
It comes on TV Tokyo at 6:30 p.m. every Tuesday here in Japan for me. I noticed that Lunar Anime had episode 2 fan-subbed real quick. The next day as a matter fact.
Splintr420
14-10-04, 07:33 AM
Yeah, but for the people in america, how do they see it? or are the people who fansub stuff in japan?
Splintr420
14-10-04, 08:08 AM
Oh yeah! That outfit he was wearing, I think its the japanese school outfit or something? I've seen it in other animes and mangas. What is it called, and is there any place online that sells it? I would love to get an outfit like that, even if it was only for halloween. :lol:
The black outfit, or the grey outfit? The grey one is his school uniform. The black one is some kind of samurai-style swordsman outfit. Can't get technical because I know nothing about traditional clothing. You'd probably be able to find it fairly easily. Try going to a martial arts store or one that specializes in kendo.
(By the way, there's an "Edit" button for you to add other comments onto one post, instead of double posting. And you can quote multiple people in one post. Just a helpful hint.)
Bleach is nice. Not one of my favourites, but high up there. Seems like it'll turn out to be one of the few good series released the few last years.
ACE2001
14-10-04, 06:25 PM
Yeah, but for the people in america, how do they see it? or are the people who fansub stuff in japan?
Mostly the people in America see it through fan-subs from fan-subbing groups.
Splintr420
14-10-04, 06:45 PM
The black outfit, or the grey outfit? The grey one is his school uniform. The black one is some kind of samurai-style swordsman outfit. Can't get technical because I know nothing about traditional clothing. You'd probably be able to find it fairly easily. Try going to a martial arts store or one that specializes in kendo.
(By the way, there's an "Edit" button for you to add other comments onto one post, instead of double posting. And you can quote multiple people in one post. Just a helpful hint.)
Ah, thanks for the tip. I was wondering how people double-quoted.
Do you think the outfit would be that expensive? I don't really want to pay a fortune to ship it over here.
Ah, thanks for the tip. I was wondering how people double-quoted.
It's pretty easy. If you just want to use the quick reply space at the bottom, then all you have to remember is to use the right tags. (Remove underscores from my examples for the actual tag.)
[_quote_]what you want to quote [_/quote_]
Or the more advanced, which automatically sets up the "Originally posted by Such-and-such" header:
[_quote=person you're quoting_]what you're quoting[_/quote_]
That way you can just copy and paste what you're quoting, and quote multiple people without needing to go into the advanced reply. :)
Do you think the outfit would be that expensive? I don't really want to pay a fortune to ship it over here.
It depends on where you get it. I'm thinking you could probably find something very similar to it here in the US somewhere, without needing to import the outfit. But unless you go for top-of-the-line materials, I don't think it'd be that expensive at all.
Splintr420
14-10-04, 08:31 PM
Hm, i bet i could get my mom to sew me one :heh:. She is obsessed with sewing right now. i bet shes downstairs sewing right now on her fancy Viking machines...
Do you know what they are called? Any fancy name? or are they just "school outfits"?
orochi X
22-10-04, 12:37 AM
BLEACH 3 POSSIBLE SPOILERS AHOY!
Just watched episode 3 of Bleach, hmm a sadder episode this one with Inoue and her brother. The way he passed on was a bit cheesy, managing to fight off the hollow inside of him and taking out himself, but hey it's got to be somewhat happy. Had some good action in it, and I enjoyed the last few mintes of he episode where Rukia erased Inoues memory ;)
Hmm as for episode 4 .. I wonder what it's going to entale ..
Splintr420
22-10-04, 08:08 AM
why erase the memory? that always seems to just make everything jump back a square.
orochi X
25-10-04, 08:55 AM
why erase the memory? that always seems to just make everything jump back a square.
So Inoue wouldn't know about Ichigo being a shinigami and all that hollow and soul society stuff, hmm think of it along the lines of the Men In Black movie ..
Splintr420
25-10-04, 05:24 PM
does he not know how to "knock himself out"? She had to put on that glove and smash him in order for him to be able to fight as a shinigami. and why doesn't he have a little phone telling him of orders?
orochi X
26-10-04, 09:05 PM
Well Ichigo is borrowing Rukia's powers to do her job. Ichigo isn't a part of the Soul Society and Soul Society doesn't yet know that Ichigo has inherited Rukia's shinigami powers.
Splintr420
26-10-04, 10:20 PM
what is soul society? I know its supposed to be "heaven", but it didn't sound like that really in ep. 1. Does the manga ever explore the realm of soul society? And what is the place the hollows are at in ep. 2? Its some sick twisted world. Can shinigami get there to fight hollows?
Seen the first two and I'll continue to watch this.
AsnAnimeGurl
01-11-04, 08:56 PM
so is ichigo's whole family got a certain talent or ability. Like one of them can only feel a presence, one of the sister can see??, and ichigo and see and touch them. but why doesnt the dad have anything?
Episode 4 is pretty good. spoiler
its basically about Chad...and how hes a good guy even tho hes a big silent guy. Its about a parakeet with a soul inhabiting it. And something weird happens to ichigos lil sister which i seem not to understand really except she feels what the parakeet feels. Hallows are after the parakeet's soul. I love it when Rukia acts all polite and cheery and going back to being the rough tough girl. haha it seems to be that Ichigo is meant to be a Soul reaper bc his power is soo much more stronger than Rukia and hes still a newbie at it. anyways i cant wait for the next episode...hehe
orochi X
01-11-04, 10:54 PM
I don't think each one has a special talent or ability, it's just that their spirit sensing strengthes are different. As Ichigo has the strongest sensing strength so he can interact with spirits, the older sisters strengthes are weaker then Ichigo's so she can only see them, the younger sister is even weaker she can only sense them and the dad well..
Episode 4 was good, probably the best episode so far but sigh another to be continued. I loved Rukia's explanation again with her drawings :)
Splintr420
01-11-04, 10:58 PM
i love rukia so much. hahahaha i have a weakness for anime girls for some reason :heh:.
Darklightz
01-11-04, 11:48 PM
I prefer Inoue.I love clumsy girls!
Well I don't know how Ichigo did it but he really drained all of Rukia's power,she can't even defend herself against hollows now!
And I still don't understand how Ichigo became stronger than Rukia by draining her power.
Splintr420
01-11-04, 11:55 PM
he doesn't even know how to get to soul society! but yes, inoue is hot. i'm partial to red heads too, as i am one :D
AsnAnimeGurl
02-11-04, 09:49 AM
I think the reason why he drained all her power is bc his strong will to protect his sister in that one episode. The will to protect somehow just drained....ok i am off on a limb now. haha. Or maybe hes just meant to be one. :)
So far this seems like a comical series. I had a few chuckles while watching, but who knows, maybe it'll pull a Trigun on us.
Rukia is pretty funny. I like Ichigo's dad too. The funny ones always get me hooked.
The only thing that's bugging me now is that he is stronger than a 10000 year old death god in one day. Even for an anime it seems pretty far fetched. Just my .02
Splintr420
02-11-04, 05:39 PM
is he stronger though? I think Rukia just admits that he has far greater potential than anything she's ever seen. But as far as power goes, he is an unskilled fighter with a blade, seeing as he has trouble getting rid of some hollows. I didn't understand how he knew how to look at the spirit string thinys though. He (apparently) doesn't know any spells to fight hollows, but he knows how to find a spirit's lifeline? a little wacked, but whatever...
Darklightz
02-11-04, 11:01 PM
From what I can understand,one measure of a shinigami's strenght is his/her sword.Rukia had a regular sword,but Ichigo,by drawing on part of Rukia's power created his huge sword.Since when does 2-1=9?
Splintr420
02-11-04, 11:04 PM
there are plenty of instances where the power ichigo has as a shingami is questionable. and what does 2-1=9 have anything to do with this?
Darklightz
02-11-04, 11:29 PM
Just a way to show show how ichigo seemingly become stronger than Rukia when he only has part of her power.
It makes a little sense. He took a part of her power and added it to his own power. Since he had a strong spirit to begin with, adding Rukia's power could possibly make a "super" death god. Sort of like the fusions that happen in Dragonball Z. Only he doesn't posess the skills to use his power fully, which is why we see him being kicked around by a few hollows.
Splintr420
02-11-04, 11:45 PM
aren't hollows on the bottom of the enemy hiarchy list? i don't understand why they are so hard to defeat. i guess i'm just used to inuyasha
He didn't just take apart of her power he took it all as well as his own power. She only meant to give him half her power but he had so much he sucked it all up.
I love the way Rukias personality changes and is her crappy drawings a running joke in this series?
Ep 5's out I'll have it done in 30 mins
ACE2001
04-11-04, 05:30 AM
Before I start, just a friendly tip here: If you guys plan on "spoiling" story information here, make sure you actually put it in spoilers caps. :)
A question here, are you guys following the manga as well or just watching the anime? I am watching bits and pieces of it and it seems good. Of course it's going to take a while before the anime takes off and get really deep into the story.
Splintr420
04-11-04, 07:33 AM
just watching the anime. gotta finish a few others before i read the manga.
Why in the world did she give him all her powers then, just a mistake?
AsnAnimeGurl
04-11-04, 09:00 AM
Episode 5 is soo good!! i think its the best one out of the 5 so far!
Ace just the anime for me and I'll think I'll keep it that way since a few animes I've watched after reading the manga are just crap in comparsion (like TenTen) and some animes I've been waiting for after reading the manga didn't live up to expectations (chobits, samurai deeper kyo).
just watching the anime. gotta finish a few others before i read the manga.
Why in the world did she give him all her powers then, just a mistake
*sighs*
Quoting Rukia from the end of ep 1
"Can't be, I meant only to give him half of my energy, but he took it all"
then she says something about never seeing a soul reapers blade being that big before so it seems that he was so strong he took all her energy before she can stop the transfer or whatever.
And yeah ep 5 is probably the best so far
The gates of hell scene and Chad are awesome
ACE2001
04-11-04, 09:35 AM
Ace just the anime for me and I'll think I'll keep it that way since a few animes I've watched after reading the manga are just crap in comparsion (like TenTen) and some animes I've been waiting for after reading the manga didn't live up to expectations (chobits, samurai deeper kyo).
*sighs*
Quoting Rukia from the end of ep 1
"Can't be, I meant only to give him half of my energy, but he took it all"
then she says something about never seeing a soul reapers blade being that big before so it seems that he was so strong he took all her energy before she can stop the transfer or whatever.
And yeah ep 5 is probably the best so far
The gates of hell scene and Chad are awesome
I understand exactly how you feel Westlo. I'm finding it hard to watch the anime as I am "light years" ahead of it reading the manga. :( Makes me wonder how much episodes of Bleach there will be.
Splintr420
04-11-04, 06:10 PM
oops. forgot about that.
But isn't it fun to watch the characters you've seen in black and white in color and moving about with voices? i find it kinda fascinating
orochi X
04-11-04, 11:12 PM
aren't hollows on the bottom of the enemy hiarchy list? i don't understand why they are so hard to defeat. i guess i'm just used to inuyasha
Hollows are the only enemy of the Soul Societie's shinigamis. Well unless they introduce some other evil beings.
A question here, are you guys following the manga as well or just watching the anime? I am watching bits and pieces of it and it seems good. Of course it's going to take a while before the anime takes off and get really deep into the story.
I read the first 2 volumes of the TW scanlations they they stopped distributed sometime last year. I can't be bothered catching up now, plus I'm not much of a manga reader.
Hmm as for episode 5 .., got it yesterday but I've put it off till later to watch. Have studying to do but I do look foward to seeing more of the Chad.
Splintr420
04-11-04, 11:31 PM
does anyone else wait till there are 2 unwatched episodes out before they watch them? like i have 5 downloaded, but i'm gonna wait till 6 comes out
it depends on how busy i am during the week but generally like seed destiny I'll watch the latest bleach ep asap
orochi X
05-11-04, 09:21 PM
Pretty much the same with me, I usually watch it straight after I finish downloading the fansub unless I have other things to do.
Well watched episode 5, nice conclusion to episode 4. My favourite scenes would definately be the the same as Westlo and also when Rukia and Chad were fighting that hollow, love Rukia's facial expressions.
Fatal Outlaw
07-11-04, 07:59 PM
does anyone else wait till there are 2 unwatched episodes out before they watch them? like i have 5 downloaded, but i'm gonna wait till 6 comes out
i do that sometimes, depends if I have some 50 pages to read for class :eek:
I loved ep 5 as well, except, I wonder if Bleach will have one straight solid plot line instead of having different story lines for each episode. chad rocks though
Splintr420
07-11-04, 09:35 PM
he's such a HARDASS. i loved it when the girder fell on his head in ep. 4 :lol:
AsnAnimeGurl
11-11-04, 02:38 AM
Eh....i didnt really like ep 6. imma wait for ep 7...at least that looks a lil more interesting than this episode. cant wait to see the fight!!
Fatal Outlaw
11-11-04, 11:15 AM
just saw 6, pretty good, Soul candy haha
AsnAnimeGurl
16-11-04, 11:34 PM
when is the next episode coming out?
Should be out tomorrow I'll watch 6 & 7 back to back
Splintr420
17-11-04, 07:32 AM
damn, i'll still on 4. I need to catch up. god, i love this show
Splintr420
19-11-04, 06:07 PM
nevermind
orochi X
19-11-04, 06:28 PM
You might want to edit that post Splintr420 as it has links to websites with scanlations and fansubs which is a nono.
Splintr420
19-11-04, 07:19 PM
aaaaah my bad!!!! edit edit edit!
AsnAnimeGurl
20-11-04, 12:54 PM
i dont think Episode 7 is coming out...... :(
Fatal Outlaw
20-11-04, 04:53 PM
i dont think Episode 7 is coming out...... :(
yea, i've been waiting....but hey, at least maybe 8 will come out on time so we dont have to wait longer after watching ep. 7 :)
orochi X
20-11-04, 05:45 PM
I'm still waiting for A&As fansub of episode 6 to come out let alone episode 7 ...
Splintr420
21-11-04, 09:02 AM
I don't think 8 will come out right after 7. I was amazed they could turn stuff around as quickly as they did, and I didn't think that pace was sustainable. But if they can keep it up, then they are some amazing people
AsnAnimeGurl
22-11-04, 12:34 AM
i just saw episode 7...its pretty good!! i like it. kinda sad tho...but its good.
Shadowbard
22-11-04, 04:08 AM
Well, I've been enjoying the anime. The characters are lots of fun, and the story is really good. At the same time...a large part of why I'm watching the anime is to see how they're differing it from the manga. ^_^;;
Episode 7 introduced several differences, and it seems as though they're going to be speeding up the story. I hope they do a good job, because this has quickly become one of my favorite series.
~Shadrach Anki
Splintr420
22-11-04, 07:31 AM
although they don't have many episodes out, what is your favorite character? I think i;d have to go with Rukia
MaNgA4LyF
24-11-04, 11:24 PM
I'm still waiting for A&As fansub of episode 6 to come out let alone episode 7 ...
tsk tsk micheal lol so picky, i must say thou the anime kinda looks like it was drawn with textas >.<;;
hmmm still a while to go till it gets to the good fights just like blardi naruto ._.
Just finished watching episode 8 and it was pretty good, I might start reading the manga to find out what happens next
AsnAnimeGurl
26-11-04, 12:33 PM
Episode 8 is pretty crazy...the plot thickens..hehehe. they stopped it at a good place too!!
Splintr420
26-11-04, 05:22 PM
what does that mean? i always watch stuff in groups of 2, so its always annoying if they have a double episode that starts with the even numbered episodes. oh well.
it is getting really good though. gotta love bleach
AsnAnimeGurl
07-12-04, 10:15 AM
Man episode nine was sad. i boo hoo cried. :)
Splintr420
07-12-04, 05:30 PM
I don't really understand how the hollow thing works. If you are a hollow, but you were just consumed by other hollows, and you are killed by a shinigami, then do you go to soul society? Becuase that hollow has taken into hell in episode 5 or 6. Did he turn into a hollow right when he died because of his evil soul?
Shadowbard
14-12-04, 04:48 AM
From what I've been able to gather, any crimes you commit as a Hollow will be purified/removed by the soul cutter when a shinigami takes care of the Hollow. However, any crimes committed in life will still be there, and if you're a horrible, rotten, wicked person (like the guy who went to hell) then you won't be able to go to Soul Society.
As for how Hollows are made...complicated process, that. There are several ways, from the looks of things. It should come up in a bit more detail later on, so I'd just wait. Or read the manga. Or both. ^_^
~Shadrach Anki
AsnAnimeGurl
19-12-04, 08:47 PM
are they going to liscense this anime bc lately they havent put up any new episodes.
orochi X
20-12-04, 12:51 AM
are they going to liscense this anime bc lately they havent put up any new episodes.
Hasn't been licensed yet, I guess Lunar aren't rushing the release of episode 11, also it's the Christmas/holiday time and fansubbers are people to.
Splintr420
20-12-04, 12:22 PM
You can't expect that quick a turn around. I was extremely suprised to hear that a group could sub it and all in about 2 days. There was no way that pace could keep up. They have lives too :D
AsnAnimeGurl
20-12-04, 02:15 PM
the only reason why i thought it was getting liscensed bc i was watching this other anime...and only after 5 episode it got liscenced. i totally understand that it takes awhile to sub it.
Splintr420
20-12-04, 02:32 PM
I hate america and its stupid system sometimes. I love how they have started to licence anime BEFORE it comes out. What is the world coming to? These huge business owners are too damn greedy. :(
Splintr420
21-12-04, 12:12 AM
I just noticed something about the hallows. Do all of them have a hole in their chest where the heart should be? Can't believe it took that long to notice if it is.
AsnAnimeGurl
21-12-04, 10:04 AM
yeah there is a hole in the chest where the heart is supposed to be. get it..hallow...no heart....no emotion...hollow....same thing.
Splintr420
21-12-04, 10:11 AM
Yah, i thought it was a pretty clever thing when i noticed it. Although it scared the crap out of me for some reason. I hate ghosts.
I hate america and its stupid system sometimes. I love how they have started to licence anime BEFORE it comes out. What is the world coming to? These huge business owners are too damn greedy. :(
Yes I immensly prefer the old days when it took 3-4 years for a series to come over if at all :rolleyes: :rolleyes:
MaNgA4LyF
22-12-04, 08:45 AM
ahah westlo its not ur time anymore!!
hmm i still say the anime is god damn sucky compared to whats happening in the manga.
the manga kinda like overwhelms the anime right now by like 100 fold =P
i cant wait for chapter 162... ban kai.. in colour... *faints*
if u havent read the manga... ignore that last comment, youll get whats coming to you *shakes fist*
Splintr420
22-12-04, 11:41 AM
they had to give it a buffer, or the show would be put on hiatus after hiatus
orochi X
28-12-04, 05:56 PM
Off MagicBox
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v236/orocantype/bleach.jpg
Ohh a Bleach ps2 game coming up .., looks like a hack n slash adventure game which are always fun but I do hope it's something more as hack n slash games tend to get repetitive.
Splintr420
28-12-04, 06:53 PM
hell yes! Anythings better than nothing though. Is it just me or are there a lot of anime series getting made into games now?
I wish this was subbed as quick as Gundam Seed Destiny *sighs*
They have 2 eps shown together on sat and it's subbed by tuesday and bleach still hasn't had epp 11 subbed and 13 airs later today i think....
MaNgA4LyF
29-12-04, 08:12 AM
Off MagicBox
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v236/orocantype/bleach.jpg
Ohh a Bleach ps2 game coming up .., looks like a hack n slash adventure game which are always fun but I do hope it's something more as hack n slash games tend to get repetitive.
some how reminds me off kingdom hearts doesnt it?
ill have to pick it up when it comes out i guess either fro ma shop in boxy or an ISO off the net =\
yeah the subbing does suck but they have lifes to you know, holidays arent just for us =P i watched the RAWs already its pretty good, i dont get the ishida fangirling my friend has though >.>;; i can understand a bit and i know the storyline from the manga anyway =\ you should give the manga a read if you havent. 10x better >.>
Splintr420
29-12-04, 10:45 AM
do you know the date of release for the game?
orochi X
29-12-04, 04:00 PM
It's slated for winter 2005 release, that's Japan's winter.
Splintr420
29-12-04, 07:08 PM
so tack on a year or two for America... ugh.
AsnAnimeGurl
02-01-05, 12:58 PM
episode 11 and 12 is out!!!
Darklightz
02-01-05, 02:45 PM
Spoiler Ahead
That Quincy guy is interesting.But there has to be a terrible secret to his power.Even if he has high spiritual powers,a guy can't just sense a Hollow forming and shoot an arrow precisely in the Hollow's face killing it instantly.
*crosses his arms in front of him* BWAHAHAHA!
MaNgA4LyF
03-01-05, 03:21 AM
you'll find out alot later, actually hekinda... dies out of the story after the next arch starts =\ concentrate more on the shinigami, their leeter =D
AsnAnimeGurl
03-01-05, 09:33 AM
wow i like eps 12....its starting to develop more and more ppl are joining the group
Splintr420
03-01-05, 05:58 PM
it is a very good new anime, so hopefully people would join up.
I was kinda hoping it wouldn't turn into the justice league :|
MaNgA4LyF
04-01-05, 07:58 AM
ahahah minor spoiler it won't. Youll see soon enough there are only i think it was 5ish chars? But it kinda extends when they advanced the arc later
Rukia is pretty weak...I seriously hope she gets beefed up a little or gets some of her power back. Chad and Inoue(sp?) are better than her now:( I know those drawings are kickass, but she needs a little more I think.
On another note, episode 13 was really funny, the best quote comes from Inoue talking with the tough fairy... "you're so pompous, even though you're small." Funny stuff.
AsnAnimeGurl
23-01-05, 09:00 PM
epidsode 14 and 15 is out already. i cant believe whats happening....poor rukia.
15 was a pretty funny episode, Kon killed it.
Darklightz
24-01-05, 12:14 AM
Yeah,it's kinda odd how his character fell into the comic relief.
Orihime was as cute as ever!I loved her friend's comments about her
Friend #1:How can she eat that stuff and stay thin?
Friend #2:Because it's all going to her breasts!
MaNgA4LyF
26-01-05, 12:58 AM
Fufuffufuffufufuffufuu
taken from a www.livejournal.com/community/soul_society
xD inoue has to be the best lol
Darklightz
29-01-05, 10:37 PM
You know,I started to wonder.Ichigo got his powers from Rukia and Ishida was trained as a Quincy.But where do Chad and Inoue's powers come from?Or is it simply taken for granted that people with high spiritual energy can develop such abilities?
I found out by reading the animeondvd thread so if you wanna know
Ichigo's powers overflowed into them or something
AsnAnimeGurl
31-01-05, 12:56 AM
i cant wait till all of them come out and fight together...now thats gotta be something. Westo is right about the overflowing spirit energy...bc ichigo has soo much its constantly leaking out....so it got into chad and inoune and that other girl. Thats why his sword is so big too.
Damn Ichigo just got well if your seen 17 you know.... damn
and for the manga readers...
Don't tell me he gets' stronger than rukias sensei
They way this is going I have a feeling Ichigo is gonna be like Goku. Gets beat down, comes back stronger, new stronger guy appears, gets beat down, comes back stronger, etc. Ichigo (Goku) is the only one who can ever make a difference (Ishida was so pimp when he appeared, and now he's a total puss, kinda like the sub characters for DBZ). That's the only thing that's been bugging me about this series for the whole 17 episodes. I hope it doesn't take that course, but if it does they better give Rukia something more to than just stand there and yell :rolleyes: Actually I'm kinda hoping for a dynamic duo kinda thing :lol:
At the end of 17....that cat seems like it has a secret no one else knows.
Pengi_Ken-Ohki
05-02-05, 01:17 PM
Yeh, I hate anime like that. Ive started getting really annoyed at characters who are simply born better than everyone else. Just getting beat up over and over is apparently sufficient.
Naruto
Goku
Gon
(will add more here when memory functions once more)
No, I far prefer anime like 'Flames of Recca' where each character DID have a roll to play. Where they made a point out of strengthening everyone else along with the main character.
But maybe its because its asia. Where more is expected academically out of students so perhaps the daydream is "Imagine a world where you can be succesful without having to force yourself. Just suffer time alone and that'll make you stronger".
I think it really undermines things in anime when a really scary and uber boss character, becomes lame and average by comparison just 10 episodes later (e.g. HunterXHunter. Any criminal without Nen wouldnt even be worth considering for the characters. Only hunters were trained in nen..but then every fighter..including lame 'n00b gankers' has it on the 200th floor or on greed island)
Darklightz
12-02-05, 12:17 PM
Pengi_Ken-Ohki,I agree completely,as I have said the same about DBZ
At least this serie can pull off some really funny stunts.
In episode 18 I was really funny to see Ichigo fighting a little girl!Also when ichigo hit her face she seemed about to get into a sort of berserker mode
Bleach has its funny parts and a pretty decent story, I just don't like what they're doing with the characters :goody:
AsnAnimeGurl
14-02-05, 09:04 AM
in 18....his chains get cut off....does that mean he is never going back into his real body? if that is tru....dang he died an early death just to go save Rukia.
If he can become a death god then he doesn't become a hollow, if he becomes a hollow than his trainers will kill him.
Though I've already read what happens next ep since someone didn't mark the spoilers when they talked about how cool the next ep will be on the aod thread.
Anyway this ep was way better than I thought it would be..
Pengi_Ken-Ohki
15-02-05, 10:09 AM
in 18....his chains get cut off....does that mean he is never going back into his real body? if that is tru....dang he died an early death just to go save Rukia.
I think it just means he'll have greater control. I doubt they'd make him go into being a ghost when its clearly such a big deal that everybody "have a place here" (in normal life)
Personally I think Inoue should ditch the..hero..and get with..a penguin or something.
*sigh* Redheads.
Nah when he was a death god he didn't have that chain and the only things that can survive without a chain are deathgods and hollows.
And is it me or was it even more obvious than normal than Inoue has massive knockers.
AsnAnimeGurl
19-02-05, 01:07 PM
wow...episode 19 was pretty good. i cant wait for episode 20. i think this bleach series is only gonna have like 24 eps max at the rate that it is going...dont ya think.
They are going at about 4-5 manga chapters an episode so they would get to around episode 70-75 before needed to insert fillers to allow the manga to be made.
Personally I think it will be a 52 ep series and they will make their own ending.
19 was kinda uneventful if you ask me. We got to watch Ichigo in a hole for 15 minutes, yay! The interesting parts were when he was talking to his sword/man/thing and when Rukia's sensei came to deliver her the news. :eek:
Fatal Outlaw
23-02-05, 03:55 PM
Just watched 20, and I personally think it's just getting good, opposed to the borefest that they called the first 15 episodes :)
Loving every ep of Bleach so far and hanging out for every realease. I still love the talking cat gag, gets me everytime :lol:
Darklightz
01-03-05, 11:08 AM
Yep,now we will get to enjoy some good old Yuyu Hakusho style battle plots:
Random Shinigami #1: Hah,I will stop you from going any further!
Chad : Keep going,I'll handle his guy
Random Shinigami #2: You will not take a step further!
Inoue : I'll take care of this guy
Random Shinigami #3: This ends right here!
Ishida : I will defeat this guy
...or something like that
xfracture
05-03-05, 01:06 AM
The anime series is really going strong.. im rather impressed thus far :)
Each episode draws you in further & further... and might i add ichigo was a bad-ass in episode 21 :D
Pengi_Ken-Ohki
06-03-05, 04:19 AM
Yep,now we will get to enjoy some good old Yuyu Hakusho style battle plots:
Random Shinigami #1: Hah,I will stop you from going any further!
Chad : Keep going,I'll handle his guy
Random Shinigami #2: You will not take a step further!
Inoue : I'll take care of this guy
Random Shinigami #3: This ends right here!
Ishida : I will defeat this guy
...or something like that
Man, when I see that in Naruto/Ranma etc.. Im always like "were Japanese born tactically weak or something? Gang bang his ass! It'll make the fight end this episode instead of in 3 episodes time!"
Nagha's revenge
06-03-05, 04:23 AM
Spoilers. . . .
I never really was much impressed by Bleach. It got interesting around 13-15 and then it felt forced. It feels like Samurai Deeper Kyo all over again >.<
First the pacing was slow leading me to believe it was going to be at least two seasons, then it picked up a bit and I was convinced there were only going to be two seasons, now it's moving so fast everything is going to be rushed. The entire series feels like they need two seasons to tell it properly, yet we took all those episodes (12-13) in the beginning to learn the nuances of shinigamies, and then some powers awakened in his comrades (2-3 episodes). Then the training started (4-5 episodse including beatdown), now we're fighting shinigamies - a multi-tier battle at that (final 3-5 episodes). Lastly some closure (1 episode). As far as shonen anime goes it went from Naruto scope (big ass arc with a lot of potential), to Recca (satisfying arc, but not great), and now it's reached Kyo (we all know there's a story here, but unballanced episode planning and character development messed up everything that could have made this anime great, or even good).
Yo PKO, try reading the manga. Most of the time they do "gangbang his ass". But to stretch the animation they take them one at a time (Most recent example are Naruto episodes 121/122). Not to mention it's easier to animate. Don't forget the lead in shonen anime is always stupid, he can become clever but never smart.
The question sure to be asked over and over by Bleach fans... who's got the bigger rack Kuukaku or Innuoe?
Gin was badass at the start of 22
lmao at Ishida's "I didn't think I'll have to use my second cape so early" and "no Kuukaku must have a cape" comments
First the pacing was slow leading me to believe it was going to be at least two seasons, then it picked up a bit and I was convinced there were only going to be two seasons, now it's moving so fast everything is going to be rushed.
52 eps and a movie.
AsnAnimeGurl
20-03-05, 11:08 PM
i was watching eps 23....total waste of time....all it did was talk and introduce the woman with super duper huge boobs. hahahahaha. i forgot her name.
Pengi_Ken-Ohki
24-03-05, 01:54 AM
i was watching eps 23....total waste of time....all it did was talk and introduce the woman with super duper huge boobs. hahahahaha. i forgot her name.
With a temper. Thats the most important thing about a woman. Her temper. And oooo baby does she have one!!
Innuoe needs breast reduction.
Damn the Bleach manga kicks ass i've read chapters 80-148 so far today. Can't wait to see this stuff animated and they should easily fit this in since eps 1-23 are chapters 1-79.
speaking of innou lmao at this quote from ch 149
"teehee wierd why is big booby saying thanks"
Darklightz
24-03-05, 02:17 PM
Episode 24 was yet another filler.But at least we got to see the other Shinigami captains.
It was interesting that Gin knew there would be consequences to letting Ichigo and friends leave and yet he didn't kill them.To say Gin is their ally is too strong a word,my guess is maybe Gin has some plans and he needs Ichigo inside Seireitei(sp?)
Geez no posts about Bleach in almost a month D:
Episode 28 was kind of boring to me but at least we get to see Ishida fight some. Hopefully the next episode will kick off things between Ichigo and Zaraki but I have a feeling they won't until right at the end of the episode and we get slapped with a big "to be continued" just to ---- us off.
Pengi_Ken-Ohki
25-04-05, 05:52 AM
I hope the makers of Bleach get their ---- together.
Bleach is fast becoming FRUSTRATING for me. I feel like they've ended every episode since around 15 with "To be continued". That pisses me off. Cliffhangers went out in the 80s. Its a ------ way of doing things. I dont wanna watch 500 fkn episodes of a character 'Levelling up' over the course of a few days.
Naruto was one of the most obscene abusers of this. It always went ->
Character introduction (make em look evil or good)
Character confrontation (finally get to when they'll fight)
Character Fight, First half (main char gets crap beaten out of them)
Character Fight, Internal cry scene (entire episode showing lifestory of guy about to lose. Build up sympathy etc etc)
Character Fight, Second Half (guy who was losing, wins and everything becomes good again)
This of course would take 10 freakin episodes to accomplish. grrrrrrr
This is where Bleach is going to face its downfall I think. The are really a lot of fights coming up (think Naruto vs Gaara times 4 or 5) which is going to put a strain on people's patience. I personally don't mind cos I've already read the manga and I'm just looking forward to seeing the results animated.
Hang in there though, it's gonna be a blast :D
P.S - The manga is awesome, if the anime frustrates you check it out. Excellent reading!
Bleach is locked in for 52 episodes and is currently in a major arc of course the episodes won't be stand alone thats stupid. I'll rather have cliffhangars than crappy monster of the week episodes.
For the manga readers what upcoming fights are you looking forward to the most?
For me it would be
Renji Vs Ichigo
Gin Vs Hitsugaya
Yourichidono Vs Soi Fong
Renji Vs Buyuka
Ichigo Vs Buyuka
And hopefully they animate a bit of that 2 Duel Soul Slayer wielders vs the General and we get to see Aizen completely own Hitsugaya, Renji & Ichigo
Manga spoilers! Big spoiler on the first line, don't click even if you're curious! Just hold out, it's ok, it'll be animated soon.
Fighting aside, I'm really really really looking forward to the part when Yorouichi-san transforms back into her real form. I just know everyone who watches the anime soley will be shocked. That and it was pretty funny too :D
Now to the fights! I'm really looking forward to:
Ichigo vs Renji
Renji vs Byakuya
Ichigo vs Byakyua
Gin vs Hitsugaya
Yorouchi-san vs Soi Fong <-- that's the one I'm looking forward too. I think it'll be a great fight.
I'd love to see the fight with the two Shinigami Captains with their dual-wielding zanpakutous fighting old Yama but I think it'll be just like the manga. They both power up, big explosion, cut to more important scene with Aizen.
Darklightz
29-04-05, 10:05 AM
Well,I was expecting Ishida to go in his long speech about how he hates Shinigamis and he will be stronger etc etc.But his fight was surprisingly and refreshingly short.
Yeah the Ishida fight was good. Episode 29 in general was pretty good with some classic moments. The Hanatarou diagrams explaining about the 4th Division were hilarious as with Ichigo and Ganju meeting up. Now we get down to business next ep :D
TeldakSS
04-05-05, 11:28 PM
While, 30's out from Lunar today. One of my friends got me hooked on this at the start of the school year (early enough that I pounced on it when it initially came out). Let's just say, Abarai Renji's back. Hit the spoiler if you want.
Before Ichigo even draws blood, Abarai shows Zabimaru's true form again. All I can say is this is going to be one hell of a worthy fight scene. Maybe we'll get to see that bankai (or was it shikai?) that my friends keep raving about that comes out in the manga. Apparently the shikai (IIRC) is the nickname for their soul slayers' true form, it supposedly ups their power and abilities by ten. The bankai apparently ups them by 100. Yum.
Spoiler about Zanpakutous from the manga:
Ban-kai is incredibly hard to attain and because of that most of the time the only people with Ban-kai are the Captains cos having Ban-kai makes you unbelievably strong.
Ep 30 was pretty good but each episode of Bleach I watch, ttime seems to fly faster and faster which is annoying. The start of the Renji fight was good so I'm looking forward to seeing the rest of it.
Nagha's revenge
26-05-05, 01:46 PM
Spoilers. . . .
I never really was much impressed by Bleach. It got interesting around 13-15 and then it felt forced. It feels like Samurai Deeper Kyo all over again >.<
. . . etc. . .
Just posting to say that this series went into it's second season and proved me wrong! I'm so happy. ^_^
I'm still not very impressed with Bleach but pacing just got a lot better! Hurrah!
Darklightz
26-05-05, 04:22 PM
For me it's the other way around.Episode 33 felt like a filler.And when is the shinigami captain going to find Ichigo?
Never! Ichigo has mastered the art of stealth . . .
ACE2001
26-05-05, 08:00 PM
After 33 episodes, seems like the anime is almost as popular as Naruto. If I hadn't started on the manga, I would probably invest more time in watching it. Anyone here is watching the anime and reading the manga at the same time?
Nagha's revenge
27-05-05, 03:56 AM
For me it's the other way around.Episode 33 felt like a filler.And when is the shinigami captain going to find Ichigo?
I haven' t watched that far yet. I'm around episode 30. I'm just saying before I thought it was going to be just one season so pacing really sucked, now it's at least 2 seasons so pacing automatically gets better. Makes everything a bit more interesting, I'll see if it gets filled when I watch the other eps.
33 was in the manga.... kinda
TeldakSS
30-05-05, 01:50 AM
After 33 episodes, seems like the anime is almost as popular as Naruto. If I hadn't started on the manga, I would probably invest more time in watching it. Anyone here is watching the anime and reading the manga at the same time?
I haven't watched ep33 all the way through yet, but I watched the anime and until 27 or 28 came out, never felt the need to read the manga. Then I read a tankouban or two's worth. About episode 31, I dove in head first and didn't come up for air till I was done. I read over 170 chapter's worth in a few days and have to say they both stand on their own, though I've sort of got past the initial, "Bleach is awesomely awesome!" phase. Still a good anime, but I've noticed a few things that point to a little lower funding of the anime than they might desire.
A few of my friends have also read the whole way through and we're sort of in the, "what if," and, "maybe..." stage. Like, if everything is made of 'spiritrons' (as on scanslator calls them) in Soul Society, and Ishida could manipulate them entirely for a few minutes, why didn't he blast Kurotsuchi with bits of himself or simply absorb Kurotsuchi? And what about Ichigo's bankai: He has only shown one stage of it, in which he has essentially mastered the shunpo, but what of the other stages? And do any of the captains going against Zaraki Kenpachi realize what that eyepatch does? Is Ichigo the person that Kuchiki Rukia killed? (Considering the general religious beliefs (I gather) in Japan of a heaven, an earth and the transfer of spirits between the two and the explicit saying so in the anime/manga, this is a possibility.) How did people who were not exposed to Aizen's Bankai, but could sense the spirit power of it fooled by it?
um
Rukia killed Ichigo? care to expand on that?
There is no second stage of Bankai, it goes normal soul slayer form, released form and then Bankai.
Considering the way Kuchiki treated him i doubt he knows Kenpachi's full power, but then again he has Bankai. Personally depending on the power I think Kenpachi would be the strongest after obtaining Bankai.
TeldakSS
01-06-05, 03:13 AM
Bankai first: I guess I meant techniques as opposed to merely the transformation. Ichigo's a kickass fighter, there's no doubts there, but he's a no-flash guy.
Explanation of Ichigo-Ganju's brother link: According to the manga and the anime, souls transfer between Soul Society and the Living World (for lack of a better term). So there's a possibility they're both derived of the same soul. Of course, considering the immense amount of transfer between Soul Society and the Living World, I doubt the theory. It's just a pet theory of one of my friends' thinking.
Darklightz
02-06-05, 12:22 PM
Well episode 34 was certainly interesting.
Hehe,I knew Ichimaru was going to make his move soon.I wish the ending didn't make Aizen's killer that obvious.It'll be fun to watch the divisions between the Shinigami.
Also the vice-captain girl is getting interesting,I"m curious what her special techniques are.It's usually the more innocent looking who have the deadliest attacks.
Splintr420
02-08-05, 12:37 AM
So the anime is going to end around episode 52? or will there be other story lines afterwards? I can't really think of a direction they could go after beating up everyone in Soul Society.
It's never been said that it is only 52 episodes long. Nobody knows how long the series is going to go on for but judging from popularity, it's goingto be around for a while. The current anime is still just around the halfway mark of the manga so theres still so much more to go.
Pengi_Ken-Ohki
02-08-05, 09:50 AM
And like all anime, it either has to drag the storyline out, or start introducing some pretty ridiculous concepts.
I still dont get why people in 'soul society' die. Nor does there seem to be any factors that affect a person's power. So immoral people can be Captains. Yet immoral people in the real world are instantly sent to hell? Whats the freaking difference?
I mean, its a nice idea and anime do this sort of thing a lot. But that doesnt really excuse such terrible inconsistancy. It may as well call itself "Tournament anime v 99999.7a" and not try to create all the fluff.
cant see ep 42. Something is wrong with the tracker =(
Splintr420
02-08-05, 06:26 PM
so the manga is still going strong then? i can't believe that, what is there to do once they get rukia back and defeat captains? (i'm on episode 40... soooooo).
snowcherry
03-08-05, 01:32 AM
so the manga is still going strong then? i can't believe that, what is there to do once they get rukia back and defeat captains? (i'm on episode 40... soooooo).
You, my friend, give Bleach too little credit. :D Things are not that simple--aaaaand that's about as much as I can say without spoiling stuff.
I look forward to watching people's reactions to upcoming twists. :D :D
Pengi_Ken-Ohki
03-08-05, 02:04 AM
Hot chick!!!
Having not read the manga, Im sure they can get at LEAST 20-50 episodes out of the remarks made a few episodes ago. Something about "his body will become mine" or some crap.
Splintr420
03-08-05, 06:18 PM
I guess there can always be more things made. Thats exciting news though. I'm glad it won't end with this!
Darklightz
03-08-05, 07:33 PM
so the manga is still going strong then? i can't believe that, what is there to do once they get rukia back and defeat captains? (i'm on episode 40... soooooo).
If Dragonball Z thaught us anything,it's that no matter how powerful you get,there's always an even more powerful bad guy out there waiting to kick your butt
Splintr420
03-08-05, 09:37 PM
I enjoy that to an extent, but after a while it gets annoying. Hopefully this won't turn into one of those. It seems Naruto is gonna travel that way though. Too bad...
Darklightz
10-08-05, 08:34 PM
Episode 44 spoilers
I wouldn't want to be Ishida right now.Never have I seen someone in an anime face 2 strong opponents one after the other like that.usually the character either has a chance to rest or the anime shows to another characters fight.Although in all likelyhood someone will come along to help Ishida
WierdIsraeli
11-08-05, 02:07 AM
Well. even if Ishida meets two captain class opponents one after another, there's a difference, because you can pretty much have a clear picture as for who has a good guy personality, for example, that carefree guy who beated chad, he's not evil, nor the small guy, and most of the lieutenants aren't evil, I think that Ishida might meet an end to battle like chad, having his life spared, cause that captain pretty much stated that he doesn't like killing, but will have to do such if have no choice only
Pengi_Ken-Ohki
20-08-05, 06:37 AM
This anime is dead to me now. The introduction of 'Bankai' confirmed all my worst fears. This is a pretty version of DBZ. The afterlife has almost no thought put into it. The character never gets exhausted relative to his spirit energy use..and of course, always learns things in months/days/seconds that usually take years.
Can we just declare Ichigo to be god of all that is godly and be done with it? Do we really need to sit through another 50 episodes of him getting godly, getting smashed, getting godlier, getting smashed etc. He doesnt get tired, he heals quickly, he barely gets hungry, and he growls at everything for no good goddamn reason.
I am sure we'll be subjected to some love triangle drama eventually, and maybe a continuation of his problems with his mother's death. Not to mention whatever the hell the ichigo in his sword was talking about with his body.
Id be fine with all this, if one of them would die already. 100% success rate, unlimited power..does anyone even get excited or notice when he's deeply wounded anymore? Or are we all at the stage where we know he'll recover completly, bear no scars and become stronger?
Darklightz
20-08-05, 10:33 AM
Heh,it's sort of true it has the DBZ syndrome.However Bleach still has a decent story.I want to know what Ichimaru is up to.
Pengi_Ken-Ohki
20-08-05, 10:55 AM
Its not a story. Its an excuse. And its ------- boring.
Stories require a certain level of attention to detail. Bleach hasnt even tried. Corruption in the enforcers of order in the afterlife is all well and good. Until its shown that pretty much every one of them is power-hungry and corrupt anyway.
Frankly, the series borders on offensive for me. Primarily because early on we're shown that Deathgods are good and great. They dont kill hollows like the quincys, they're not bad guys like the hollows, and people who are immoral in life are sent to hell.
Then they show us that for a very long time, death gods have been based on ideas of brutality, strength and cruelty. That there is no high authority that will discipline them, and that those souls lucky enough to go to 'soul society' are destined to live a life with no memory, no family, and no hope for the future.
Ok, so maybe they intend to play off of this by explaining that its the reason why there are deviants assisting Ichigo even now. But its quite infuriating. I probably wouldnt care so much except that this is considered a high quality anime by many. It simply isnt and deserves to have that title stripped and spat on.
I know I know. Im getting much too old or strict for anime. I still like some though!! Oh and I will continue to watch. For the simple reason that once I start, I will usually watch all anime to the conclusion. I hate unfinished worlds. (Mind you, I couldnt finish Daa Daa Daa. I got to around ep 30 before I archived the series and decided I might wait till I suffer a brain injury before trying again)
(Edit: In case nobody understands my grudge clearly, its that Bleach keeps redefining itself. It would be fine if it felt like we're supposed to feel naive..but it honestly feels like Bleach is too lazy to stick to standards. The role of deathgods re-creates itself, as do Ichigo's powers.)
Darklightz
01-09-05, 11:09 PM
I disagree Pengi Ken-Ohki.Is think the fact that the Shinigami ended up filled with corrupted members shows a bit of realism.There's a bit of boths.You have the bad guys(Kuchiki,Gin,the poison guy) The good (Hinamori,Toshiro,Aizen) and the freaks (need I name them all?)
And at least the story is more than the DBZ model of (Villain X is coming to destroy the world for the fun of it)
Also now we're getting something I wanted to see.A Captain VS Captain fight!Strangely enough I still enjoy this.
Bleach is too full of incosistencies to make it a decent series. I guess that's to be expected from any series in this genre, just a muscle head main character who solves everything with chopping, beating, or slicing.
Simply terrible.
Bleach is too full of incosistencies to make it a decent series. I guess that's to be expected from any series in this genre, just a muscle head main character who solves everything with chopping, beating, or slicing.
Simply terrible.
it's true that bleach does not have something that may have pulled u in right away.. but considering the fact that at first i only watch the series after reading some mixed reaction from the forumers all over the net, and then suddenly i realised i've watched it until this day (now up till ep 48).. my view is it's a good anime..
but then again.. i seldom rate any anime as "bad" anime :D
Pengi_Ken-Ohki
05-09-05, 04:28 AM
I disagree Pengi Ken-Ohki.Is think the fact that the Shinigami ended up filled with corrupted members shows a bit of realism.There's a bit of boths.You have the bad guys(Kuchiki,Gin,the poison guy) The good (Hinamori,Toshiro,Aizen) and the freaks (need I name them all?)
And at least the story is more than the DBZ model of (Villain X is coming to destroy the world for the fun of it)
Also now we're getting something I wanted to see.A Captain VS Captain fight!Strangely enough I still enjoy this.
So corruption in the afterlife == realism?
But we KNOW there is a hell. We've seen the hell. So why are immoral characters permitted to exist in the top ranks of society? Furthermore, how is soul power decided? Any random random jerk can just be uber if he grunts and pants enough? I dont buy it. Civilisation is built on the idea of preserving the weaker, and crippling the stronger. Soul society is portrayed like this nice place, complete with 'school'. But its not. The hollows seem to be about the same as the captains. Only they dont get the choice of volition. So they're LESS evil.
WierdIsraeli
05-09-05, 11:28 AM
So corruption in the afterlife == realism?
But we KNOW there is a hell. We've seen the hell. So why are immoral characters permitted to exist in the top ranks of society? Furthermore, how is soul power decided? Any random random jerk can just be uber if he grunts and pants enough? I dont buy it. Civilisation is built on the idea of preserving the weaker, and crippling the stronger. Soul society is portrayed like this nice place, complete with 'school'. But its not. The hollows seem to be about the same as the captains. Only they dont get the choice of volition. So they're LESS evil.
First of all, you put your own conception of heaven and hell (as precieved by the judeo-christian belief) on the serie, which is wrong.
Second, the hollow become so out of intense emotions, and are driven only by those emotion, while shingamis can get a little bit emotional, they are still cool headed, and such precieve human need like power in a different way, while hollows precieve it in a more primal way.
Try to think of the world of bleach in more eastern religioun context, when good and evil are two sides coexisting in one body, like hollows contain within themselves the souls of innocent people who gone too emotional in the afterlife, so the shingami can have faults.
After all, we are talking about human souls here, each containing the precepts of good and evil, even in the after life.
Darklightz
05-09-05, 01:00 PM
So corruption in the afterlife == realism?
But we KNOW there is a hell. We've seen the hell. So why are immoral characters permitted to exist in the top ranks of society? Furthermore, how is soul power decided? Any random random jerk can just be uber if he grunts and pants enough? I dont buy it. Civilisation is built on the idea of preserving the weaker, and crippling the stronger. Soul society is portrayed like this nice place, complete with 'school'. But its not. The hollows seem to be about the same as the captains. Only they dont get the choice of volition. So they're LESS evil.
What we've seen is a dumping ground for hollows.Nothing says normal souls can end up there(not in the anime anyway).
Also I won't get into the philosophical inaccuracies with the christian after-life.
As for Soul Power,I guess it's something decided randomly like any other characteristics.For example,someone gets an astonishing talent for Piano.It wasn't decided,it just happened that way.Same with Soul Power.
Where's there evil,there's good.That's what we see in Soul Society.I think it's be very interesting to see an internal war inside Seireitei
WierdIsraeli
05-09-05, 01:33 PM
I might be wrong, but it been a long time since I saw a theological debate about anime, last time I saw such a thing was about evangelion, and that serie was thology related... but bleach...
If soul society is 'heaven', then I'd rather not die. The Earth seems like a paradise when compared to SS. I agree with PKO on the Hell thing. We were shown there was a hell, and a soul who murdered while it was still human was sent there. This isn't a conception of heaven or hell based on anything, it's what the series gave us!
WierdIsraeli
06-09-05, 01:05 AM
Ok, so a person who commited murder while alive goes to hell.
But if a soul commits a murder of another soul, why should it go to hell? one can say that it's not the same laws.
Pengi_Ken-Ohki
06-09-05, 05:00 AM
And thus I sink further into my dislike of humanity.
Where did I talk about a christian heaven? I have gone to great lengths to say "the afterlife" and provide reasons for why I think my perception of the situation is correct. We have seen 2 other worlds besides that of soul society. We have seen a world full of hollows, and we have seen a world translated as being 'hell'.
We have seen Ichigo told that the correct thing to do, is stamp people so they're sent to soul society.
Then we see soul society itself. No different to our world except there is no protection of the weak. People like Kenpachi are rewarded for their bloodlust. Dutiful, loyal shinigami are allowed to be horribly mistreated if its by a captain. How is murder on earth so unacceptable that you must go to hell, but mass murder in soul society has 0 repercussions?
As I said earlier in the thread. All this could be taken care of if they had just thought ahead far enough to not touch the afterlife too much. If they hadnt tried to make Rukia seem like a "good guy" there wouldnt be this blaring problem whereby her best friend and commanding officer have 0 emotional remorse about murdering a human whom wanted to protect her. Fact of the matter is, EVERYTHING is pointless. Everything. Its ------- stupid. There has to be a reason to fight. But what is the reason? To save Rukia? From what, dying a second time? If SHinigami's are relied upon to protect the living from hollows, and they are determined to execute her, how many are suffering on earth so Ichigo can save 1 girl? How many shinigami have to be crushed? Or do we just conveniantly forget about Earth during the heaven fight?
I dont care about the debate on what the afterlife should be like. I just cant stand that people are still singing the praises of an anime of this calibre. Hunter X Hunter & Flame of Recca are examples of anime that were as long as this without suffering massive quality dropoffs. Ending every episode with "to be continued" has really started to ---- me off. Thats cheap.
Zachalmighty
23-10-05, 02:11 PM
Dear cute mortal penguin,
I must agree with you on some facts. Except there is a shinigami that is replacing Rukia in her district. Also Ichigo, if youve payed attention to the story is not exactly human. He is a mix between a hollow and a shinigami which he originally was. Rukia only gave him a little push towards awakening his sealed powers.
On the heaven and Earth matter i think that the Anime can be realted to our lives. THink about it. Where is god when you need him? I needed him many of times and he never came to help me. I help myself and i cat rely on anyone else to help me. Maybe Ichigo is doing the same by going to heaven to rid the bad shinigamis so that people can actually get the help they need! Averting disasters, curing sicknesses, exterminating murderers. The reason Hollows exist are because of shinigamis not purifying souls when they get the chance!
Dont flame me please! just casually reply
I don't care what anyone says, Bleach episode 54 ------- kicked ass.
ACE2001
09-03-06, 01:30 AM
Wow....this thread hasn't been updated in a while! :lol: Anyways, Bleach has been licensed:
According to this report from C21 Media back on February 6th, Viz Media has acquired the Bleach anime in order to push more into the teen anime market. This comes at a time when a recent Cartoon Network interview has the commentator talking about how Bleach is very much an Adult Swim oriented show and would fit well in their line-up. Time that with Inu Yasha getting closer to finishing and it looks as if Viz Media is lining things up for their next big TV push in addition to Naruto.
Source: Animeondvd
Hmm...not really a big deal for me since I've been following the manga and not the anime, but I feel that some people may not like this move. I personally would've like Geneon to get it instead.
ACE2001
09-03-06, 01:53 AM
Just checked out some other places....some people are still considering Bleach as un-licensed. Lunar being one of them, whom actually fansubs Bleach episodes and animesuki, whom hosts the episodes. So there is a little controversy going on. But, IMO, I'm pretty sure that VIZ does indeed have Bleach since they have the manga. Makes sense right? So, I guess we'll have to wait for the "official" announcement? :lol: Well, anyways, what's you guys take on this "announcement?"
Takahashi
09-03-06, 03:24 PM
Doesn't really matter anyway, since bleach getting worser by the minutes.
ACE2001
09-03-06, 03:33 PM
Wow....well at least the manga is getting better by the chapters! :heh:
Zachalmighty
09-03-06, 05:23 PM
Bleach is not getting bad, its just at the fillers
Shinobi X
11-03-06, 01:11 AM
I was introduced to this anime not too long ago. Haha I guess I'm the only one here who just know this anime. :heh:
I've heard about it and am interested in it. I just never seen the anime and the mangas before. So is Bleach really good??
Zachalmighty
12-03-06, 09:44 PM
i really enjoy it but the past ten episodes where crap because they where just filler until the manga gets far enough for new story line again. Watch it, love it, enjoy it
Kusunagi
24-03-06, 09:14 PM
Question... What Was That In Episode 59? Does Ichigo Have Hollow Powers?
Zachalmighty
25-03-06, 12:10 PM
He doesnt exactly have hollow powers as more of a hollow is inside him. Referring back to the older episode when he fights Zarachi, when he goes back into himself and fights the Ichigo with white skin that is his hollow side. I think we will be seeing more of Hollow Ichigo when the ---- hits the fan kinda like in Naruto when he goes Nine Tailed Fox.
Kusunagi
25-03-06, 05:19 PM
yeah from what i have been reading in the manga now, the next arc should be extremely interesting. Unless I skipped an arc. tousen seems to be more powerful than meets the eye.
Zachalmighty
25-03-06, 07:10 PM
whicth captain was Tousen again? was it the blind one or the animal one?
snowcherry
25-03-06, 08:14 PM
Tousen Kaname is the blind guy. The fox is Komamura Sajin.
Zachalmighty
25-03-06, 09:34 PM
Tousen of course will have some powers because he is joined up with the Hollows. hmm I love da speculation, when do these fillers end though and what is the new arc named?
Takahashi
29-03-06, 04:16 PM
Just watched ep 73 and was even more annoyed then usuall. Can a spirit dro