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Kusunagi
14-08-06, 05:00 PM
Kakshi Gaiden will be 4 to 5 episodes long, Im not sure if there will be a special or not. Episode 200 starts it and it ends at 204. The Naruto II arc starts at 2005. I can honestly say, ITS ABOUT TIME !!!
Gundam_pilot01
14-08-06, 05:12 PM
Sorry for sounding like a smartarse but I pray you mean episode 205 and not 2005, I dont think I could take that many more filler episodes :P
Again, sorry but I've been stuck in the house for 5 days now with Vertigo, not long got the pc and I'm not mentally stable, well more unstable than usual. ;)
kamikazefstorm
14-08-06, 06:55 PM
:eek: YES!!!!!! *dances everywhere* :p :p :p
---- about ------- time, i think the bleach filler arc is ending soon as well.
Bishdariel
15-08-06, 06:33 AM
wow, this was really about time.
i thought they would never continue with the real story!
i wonder what took them so long.
yeah!
Gundam_pilot01
15-08-06, 06:49 AM
Have they got enough to go on though, they're not gonna catch up really quick with the manga and take ages with fillers again are they? I sure hope not.
HolyWhippet
15-08-06, 09:21 AM
Have they got enough to go on though, they're not gonna catch up really quick with the manga and take ages with fillers again are they? I sure hope not.
Well, I've been reading through the fan translated manga and here are some numbers. The end of the main plotline of the anime matches up with volume 238 of the manga. The Kakashi Gaiden miniseries goes from 239 to 244. The last manga volume I've gotten is number 280. The last main plotline episode of the anime was number 135. If they keep up at the previous rate - about 2 volumes per anime episode then they only have enough material for about 20 or so episodes.
Of course, I doubt the fan translated manga is as current as the original manga which will also be coming out weekly as well. I suspect they will be dragging their feet with the anime as well - some of the volumes are pretty action packed so it could be more like one episode per volume - if they can do it at that rate it will last for quite a while. Possibly also throwing in some filler episodes in the middle to pad things out.
Kusunagi
15-08-06, 10:01 AM
Sorry for sounding like a smartarse but I pray you mean episode 205 and not 2005, I dont think I could take that many more filler episodes :P
Again, sorry but I've been stuck in the house for 5 days now with Vertigo, not long got the pc and I'm not mentally stable, well more unstable than usual. ;)
Lol I love sarcasim (sp) so its fine with me. It makes the post funnier!
Westlo: Don't be a hater! I like Bleach too, I actually like Bleach a bit more than Naruto. Naruto is still good though!!! I have been reading up on bleach and the filler still has atleast 5 more episodes considering the titile of number 95: Byakuya Takes the Field! Dance of the Wind-Splitting Cherry Blossoms
Of course Byakuya will not defeat the Bounto, so you can figure out the rest. Oh and lets not turn this into a bleach post. There's another room for that.
Bishdariel
24-08-06, 10:16 AM
Well, I've been reading through the fan translated manga and here are some numbers. The end of the main plotline of the anime matches up with volume 238 of the manga. The Kakashi Gaiden miniseries goes from 239 to 244. The last manga volume I've gotten is number 280. The last main plotline episode of the anime was number 135. If they keep up at the previous rate - about 2 volumes per anime episode then they only have enough material for about 20 or so episodes.
Of course, I doubt the fan translated manga is as current as the original manga which will also be coming out weekly as well. I suspect they will be dragging their feet with the anime as well - some of the volumes are pretty action packed so it could be more like one episode per volume - if they can do it at that rate it will last for quite a while. Possibly also throwing in some filler episodes in the middle to pad things out.
me reading them too, but actually they r already up to number 318 maybe 320 now. so with ur calclation, they easily have 40 episodes on their hand which is almost one year.
but i wanna see more n faster, but not possible! :D
Kusunagi
24-08-06, 11:04 AM
The website that I was getting my information from has just changed the names of a few episode titles. I wonder if Gaiden is being pushed back??? If so I quit!
Bishdariel
31-08-06, 03:51 PM
The website that I was getting my information from has just changed the names of a few episode titles. I wonder if Gaiden is being pushed back??? If so I quit!
ahh, dont worry!
it will not be such a long time anymore i guess!
when this plot ends, i think, they will continue with kakashi's story!
yeah!
I am dissapointed. 202-204 special just seems like some more filler. i can hardly see how this will tie in with the main story at all. damnit. i really thought it was over.
HolyWhippet
23-10-06, 07:39 PM
I suspect it's a question of how much filler they prepared in advance. Since the next "official" episodes will be several years in the future with the characters slightly older they won't be able to show any filler episodes set in the "present" unless they show them now.
I'd not put too much faith in the filler episodes having any bearing on the main storyline when it restarts. For the most part, nothing really happened during the filler episodes. The only exception being the new technique that Hinata developed.
HolyWhippet
13-11-06, 01:01 AM
Well, this rumour turned out to be completely false. Episode 200 has passed weeks ago and still we have filler. I'm guessing they have to clear all the filler they've written for the current point in time as they can't really show it later.
The current story arc with the renegade ninja isn't too bad. Well, compared with the previous story where they had to deliver that guy and his teapot. Man that episode had to be the worst I've ever seen.
Gundam_pilot01
14-11-06, 06:03 PM
The current story arc with the renegade ninja isn't too bad. Well, compared with the previous story where they had to deliver that guy and his teapot. Man that episode had to be the worst I've ever seen.
Jeez your not kidding. But I'm not suprised to see more filler episodes, but you know when the main story arc kicks off again, its gonna be good, when they eventually get round to it that is.
I suspect it's a question of how much filler they prepared in advance. Since the next "official" episodes will be several years in the future with the characters slightly older they won't be able to show any filler episodes set in the "present" unless they show them now.
You think that they will actually draw the characters slightly older? That would be pretty kick-ass. I was thinking that Naruto should be getting promoted at any time, hell, they never even finished the tournament.
HolyWhippet
14-11-06, 10:05 PM
I've been reading the fan translated manga's - the characters are a bit older in the new storyline and many of them have new costumes. There is a three year gap between the two after all.
Sadly though, Naruto has not been promoted by the time of the new storyline. I get the impression it's because he was kept busy with training. On the other hand, all of his old friends have reached Chuunin level at least.
Bishdariel
04-02-07, 04:36 PM
its coming it is finally coming!
on the 15th of february they are going to aire the new storyline!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Kusunagi
05-02-07, 04:20 PM
LOL They got me before! I will believe it when I see it!!!
HolyWhippet
05-02-07, 05:33 PM
The current episodes certainly lend plausability to it. The ending credits briefly show Naruto transitioning between the younger and older versions. Also, the last episode gave a brief glimpse of Jiraya (sp) which suggests he has finished his recon work and is ready to begin training Naruto.
Bishdariel
06-02-07, 03:45 AM
didnt they actually say at the end of one of the last episodes that the new arc will begin on the 15th? and isnt it a nice idea to end the old arc with gara and start the new one with him again?
hope i am not mixing up anything right now! :D
Pengi_Ken-Ohki
08-02-07, 10:58 AM
Im glad that I stopped watching Naruto at the end of the Sasuke arc and didn't begin again until recently.
My god the things I hate in Naruto are filler and stock footage. Ok, so some filler is ok and funny and all..but over 100 episodes of filler is just bullshit. And then when the arc does finally start again, we can once more look forward to episodes where the episode flashes back to scenes that only occured 5 minutes ago (god I hate that..do they think I have alzheimers or something?).
Kusunagi
08-02-07, 02:26 PM
lmao
HolyWhippet
08-02-07, 08:17 PM
I think the flashback stuff is intended to do two things: a) Build up dramatic tension b) Fill in the time. Especially the second, it's hard to stretch out the anime so as to cover the events of the manga and fill out an entire episode. For action sequences it's easier - consider Rock Lee's first drunked fighting exhibition. I think it was barely a page or two in the manga but went for a fair duration in the anime.
Pengi_Ken-Ohki
09-02-07, 04:55 AM
I think the flashback stuff is intended to do two things: a) Build up dramatic tension b) Fill in the time. Especially the second, it's hard to stretch out the anime so as to cover the events of the manga and fill out an entire episode. For action sequences it's easier - consider Rock Lee's first drunked fighting exhibition. I think it was barely a page or two in the manga but went for a fair duration in the anime.
Honestly, I'd prefer the long drawn out, non-animated scenes of NGE to fill in time than the flash backs to flash backs. Part of this is because their flashbacks are often completely broken. That is, they're bad for the flow. They don't flashback the relevant parts of a scene. They completely replay the ENTIRE scene, even if its the middle part that needs to be reminded to the viewer.
Also, there is no reason an anime needs to take that long. 13 episode, 26 episode, is just fine. If they didn't have enough material, either they should have gotten permission for non-manga stories (such as the Anko/Hinata developments) or they should not have begun an anime so early. Even long ass series like Inu Yasha are not so disgustingly cheap as to constantly flash back. (Though "monster of the week" is just as lame).
HolyWhippet
09-02-07, 07:27 AM
Ever hear the phrase "strike while the iron is hot"? If a manga series is popular they generally start making an anime version soon after while there is still a strong fanbase. Long flashbacks aren't good from an artistic point of view - but manga and anime is intended to make money more so than producing art.
BTW, filler stories aren't necessarily the solution - often the flashbacks are there to push the episode out to the full amount of time. They can't really throw in another subplot without ruining the flow of the story and they have to end the episode at a logical point.
Anyway, I finished watching what appears to be the last of the filler episodes - but it appears from the preview at the end that there will be no Kakashi Gaiden. Instead it appears they will be jumping straight into the grown up Naruto storyline.
Pengi_Ken-Ohki
10-02-07, 02:36 PM
Yeh, wiki has been saying for ages that there'd be no Kakashi segment at the begining.
Whilst I understand the need to juice the franchise as much as possible as quickly as possible, I am critical of the method. There is no reason that Naruto anime can't have any of its own canon. That is the principal problem.
By using filler and stock footage, they degrade the overall product. I am 100% certain that they've damaged their DVD sales by creating a series that is too large to easily afford. As it is, people are expected to pay ~$100 AU for a 26 episode season of their favourite anime. Naruto is 9 seasons long already, and that is not counting 3 movies, and several OVAs.
Granted that sometimes some shows do help their fans out by charging less for more (Firefly and Babylon 5 come to mind), I do not believe Ive seen this applied to anime like DBZ & Inuyasha.
Not only do they hurt sales in that way, they also reduce the chance of continueing fan support. One of the key elements of Naruto's character is that he gives it his all. Yet throughout the filler he constantly does NOT give it his all. Often sticking with academy level taijutsu and kunai, resulting in increased damage to himself, his team, and his mission. (A great example is the episode where he has to protect a tea cup. Instead of using his kage bunshin chain right away, he waits until a life is in danger before acting).
If there is 1 trait that all fans have in common, it is that they get very angry at contradictions and betrayel of their favourite characters. To have Naruto failing missions without even trying to use rasengan, is saying that Naruto is a loser with poor judgement and hopeless combat skill when he's not surrendering to the fox.
I personally hope that the new series will have a more mature Naruto. I'm getting sick of his moronic methods of approaching things. Often screaming and whining in the middle of a stealth mission just because he wants to be leader. Ugh.
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