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Morbius
15-12-00, 04:32 PM
Besides the ending, Pierrot le Fou is my favourite episode. I just love all the freaky carnival music that plays throughout it. And the fight scenes are just amazing. Plus the ending is just the best. I love it when Pierrot get squished by the giant robot... I think the best episodes are the ones where Spike gets the crap beat out of him and still keeps fighting.
Anyways, What are your opinions of this episode?
for me, its probably the most visually striking
episode, esp. the entire gunfight scene at the beginning
and Tungpo's flight over the city.
it's also really strong in terms of character development,
esp. with Faye and Spike. for Faye, we really see how she's
changed in the series from in the beginning where she
really just seemed to care about herself to this session
when she actually comes to Spike's "rescue" (and i kinda
liked her reaction to getting shot down). plus we get to
see the more sensitive side of Spike come out in really
the most unexpected way. once he realizes what Tungpo
really is, you can see him get a little teary-eyed that
things had to turn out this way (actually, i think that's
one of the the only times you ever see Spike really teary).
so yeah, i liked the session, too!
BigShot Jordan
16-12-00, 02:06 AM
yes this episode was completely amazing.One of the most visually spectacular things i have ever seen,period.The fight scenes were excellent also.
Part homage to a darker, more twisted Gotham City and Batman-feel, and part amazing BEBOP-style, this is one of the most amazing TV episodes I've ever seen in all my years of anime. The animation in this episode exceeds most anime movies in terms of quality and smoothness! There's so much energy and action in this episode that by the end, you feel like you've just watched an epic two hour movie.
see you space cowboys.
The cruel angel's thesis
07-01-01, 03:11 PM
i don't remember much from that episode.....it was very late at night when I watched it, and there was a mediocre episode before that one on the tape. But i remember it being good....especially the fight scenes
Hiigaran
20-01-01, 10:58 PM
I really enjoyed the episode and truly felt sorry for the guy in the end. I mean, true he was a cold-blood killer, but he didn't know any better right?
Originally posted by Hiigaran
I really enjoyed the episode and truly felt sorry for the guy in the end. I mean, true he was a cold-blood killer, but he didn't know any better right?
I didnt. The whole boyish innocence he had was lost when he killed people for fun. Even if he didnt know better, i couldnt have cared less when he got killed.
I did however, feel sorry for him when he was being altered and tested on. Thats a terrible thing to do to a person. But when he started killing for fun, he needed to be killed.
What i dont get is, why didnt his green force field stop the knife spike threw at him?
Morbius
20-01-01, 11:53 PM
Originally posted by Hybrid
What i dont get is, why didnt his green force field stop the knife spike threw at him?
Because it was his own knife... Spike pulled it out of himself to use it... I guess it was some sort of special knife designed for him...
Originally posted by Morbius
Because it was his own knife... Spike pulled it out of himself to use it... I guess it was some sort of special knife designed for him...
Why would they make a knife that could penetrate his own forcefield? Why wouldnt he just use regular knives?
Morbius
21-01-01, 03:10 AM
Originally posted by Hybrid
Why would they make a knife that could penetrate his own forcefield? Why wouldnt he just use regular knives?
Good question... I have no idea...
Here's a theory... Maybe the force field is as hard to penetrate from the inside as it is from the outside... So the only way he can throw knives at people is by using knives that penetrate his force field...
But that's just nonsense... Maybe he just let his force field down for one second because he thought Spike was no longer a threat...
Then again... The force field never protected him from getting squished either... Not that it would be that strong...
I'm confused...
i think the reason Spike's knife got through was because
of Tungpo's reaction to seeing the glint off of Spike's
eye. bc. it reminded him of the cat he saw when he was
being experimented on, it might have thrown him off enough
to lower his shields, if you're going off the theory
that his shields are always up.
when he's being experimented on, you see Tungpo has his
shields up when he's being attacked/tortured, so maybe
his shields come up as a defensive thing only when he wills
it, so maybe they weren't up to begin with and when
he sees Spike's eye, he's so thrown off that he doesn't
even think of raising the shields.
as for being squished, its already established that he's
really regressed into a childlike state, so that maybe
he's so shocked at being knifed that he just loses it and
can't figure out to do.
... not the best theory, but that's my two cents ...
... of course, maybe its just one of those things your
not supposed to think about too hard, kinda like how
Wen got Zebra up that staircase in Session 6 ...
I also think that the reason the knife went through his shield was because he saw that spike had two different colored eyes and it reminded him of the cat.I also thought it was sad that he had the mind of a child and the power of something really powerful.He was killing a bunch of people and he didnt even know it.He was off in his own LaLa land.:(
Ikidomari
22-04-01, 01:18 AM
Well, from what I think, I say Tongpu got distracted, or more like shocked with fear when he saw that Spike had two different colored eyes, just like that persian cat that was overlooking his experimentation. So he probably freaked out, and Spike took advantage and threw the combat knife when he was off guard.
ANYONE KNOW WHERE I CAN GET THAT SPACE LAND THEME MUSIC! I WANT IT!
GEKIGANGER 3
22-04-01, 02:08 AM
that is one of my favorite, cept for the fridge one of course, and i have to say that i found it anoying when the got hit in the leg he said MOMMY MOMMY MOMMY MOMMY MOMMY MOMMY MOMMY until he died.
I really like this episode even though it was a really freaky episode as well.
As for the whole shield thing. One of my theories has to do with the idea that a knife is slower than a bullet. If you have ever read the book or watched the movie Dune then you know what I am talking about. My other theory has to do with the cat just like everyone else has been saying.
DracoFirst
23-04-01, 04:48 PM
Yeah I remember Viola and I losing sleep after seeing that episode. I love it when biological constructs go awry. And yeah I agree the knife was directly related to the cat's eye thing...he let his guard down because he was remembering. I have to agree with my bf though. He said what he found interesting was the fact that there was a vicious battle going on in a child's play land for all intents and purposes. Of course we over disect things because we're both english majors and that's what we were bred to do. ;)
I liked the episode but it really had to grow on me. The first few times I saw it I was rather disturbed.
Gundammi!
23-04-01, 07:11 PM
It was kind of sad in the end. What does Pierrot Le Fou mean anyway?
Killjoy
23-04-01, 10:15 PM
At first I didn't like the episode, because I was thinking, "THIS guy is beating up SPIKE?" Plus, it was really surreal. But the second and third times I saw it, I grew to appreciate it more. It's not quite my top five, because I like humor, but I think it's one of the more expressive episodes; it hints at a lot of things without spelling them out for you.
Ikidomari
24-04-01, 02:36 AM
I think Pierrot Le Fou is in French. But they tell you what it means in the episode anyway. "Pierrot the Mad" . Ayyy.
Come to think of it, that eye/cat connection thing is prolly it.
But when I was watching the episode, I thought the reason the knife got through was because it's a slow moving projectile, as opposed to a fast moving one like a bullet. I thought the shield worked on the more kinetic energy the projectile had, the less it was able to penetrate.
Of course, I don't remember the ep too well, so god knows how many times you could debunk that theory...
Gundammi!
24-04-01, 06:55 PM
Is that a song? Because I've noticed that all cowboy bebop eps are named after famous songs or genre of music.
heeroyuy
29-04-01, 12:14 AM
although pierrot le fou isn't my favorite episode I thought that it was amazing. I really liked it.
Morbius
03-05-01, 11:35 PM
Originally posted by Gundammi!
Is that a song? Because I've noticed that all cowboy bebop eps are named after famous songs or genre of music.
It's not a song that I know of... I read on a site that it may be influenced by a french film called "The Mad Clown"...
Gundammi!
04-05-01, 12:05 AM
Originally posted by Morbius
It's not a song that I know of... I read on a site that it may be influenced by a french film called "The Mad Clown"...
Ohhhhhhh...I don't wanna see that. Does Pierrot mean "clown" in french?
Morbius
04-05-01, 12:30 AM
Originally posted by Gundammi!
Ohhhhhhh...I don't wanna see that. Does Pierrot mean "clown" in french?
No... Pierrot is a kind of derivative of Pierre which is the french name for Peter, I believe...
Gundammi!
04-05-01, 01:57 AM
Well the guys over at Team Bebop broke a pattern.
Drizzten
04-05-01, 03:10 AM
I searched the CD Database (http://www.cddb.com) for "Pierrot Le Fou" and got back these results:
Artist Album Song
Banana erectors Banana erectors #8 Pierrot le fou
Voyage de Noz Opera 86-89 #6 Pierrot le fou
Antoine Duhamel le cinéma d'Antoine Delhamel #1 Pierrot le Fou: Ferdinand and...
#22 Pierrot le Fou: Mic et Mac par Anna Karina
There was also an entry for something (a movie, I believe) called Hanna and Her Sisters.
Originally posted by Morbius
It's not a song that I know of... I read on a site that it may be influenced by a french film called "The Mad Clown"...
there is a film called "Pierrot Le Fou" by Jean Luc Godard and
it is one of the oddest things ever made. the main plot (if you
can say there's a main plot) is about a man who's fed up with
his bourgeouis lifestyle and ends up hooking up with an old
pre-married life flame who calls him "Pierrot" even though that's
not his name. the film doesn't really follow any type of plot other
than watching these two traipse through the french countryside
tormenting each other, running from gun-runners who the woman
is tangled up with, and engaging in just plain odd behaviour.
as coincidence would have it, tho', "Sympathy for the Devil" is
also the name of another Godard film, and even odder is that
in Session 6: Sympathy for the Devil, the scenes with Spike in
the bar listening to Wen play the harmonica are a little similar
to a scene at a party in Godard's "Pierrot Le Fou".
just makes me go, "hmmmm ....."
Psycho vantis
05-05-01, 02:24 AM
That episode was definitly one of my favorites....
for some reason i always love the psychotic killers as aposed to the people who are doing it for a specific cause......
as said already the animation is so fluid and breathtaking I had to watch it twice because i was too busy screeming at the dvd asking it how it could be soo frickin awsome.... and i couldnt help but think " Tim burton " half the time durring the episode... especialy the amusement park scene...
.... Its amazing this episode was so good considering how little talking their actualy was in it....
Poiupp X
05-05-01, 02:27 AM
How much talking does one need when the actions speak so much louder? This episode kicked. Literally.
Hmmm... wonder how Pierrot would have faired against different odds? Like, fighting with no cats around or fighting Vicious instead...
Gundammi!
06-05-01, 07:52 PM
Well we would never get a DVD #6.
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