Friday July 27th, 2000 - Dragonball Z in Australia

[Wolfpac]

Is it just me or dose Freeza look fatter today???

I first thought it would be Vegeta, Not the Ginyu Force
Do you think King Kai would Train the Ginyu Force???

Do you think the Sprit Bomb will work against Freeza???
You know if I was Freeza and I saw Goku using a big Attack I would attack not just stand around and see what's happening
How big is the Sprit Bomb, Whoa!!!

[Edited by Wolfpac on 28-07-2000 at 08:28 AM]

[eva2000]

what relief, someone decides to start the thread for today :heh:

i was surprised when the Ginyu showed up at king kai's ... i mean how the hell did they end up there ? i don't think king yama would of gave them directions :stareup:

and what's with vegitta talking to goku from the other side ....? i mean if the Ginyu died and they got to King kai's, then shouldn't Vegitta be there too ?

[fireguy]

Maybe Vegeta is on his way to King Kais or maybe he has gotten lost :lol: . Wonder how much damage will be done to Frieza by the spirit bomb? Cant wait to see him use it on him.

[Ko Hakaisha]

[blink blink]

A.) King Yama might not have given the Ginyu the directions very willingly. ^^ After all, he's not all that strong.

B.) The spirit bomb hurts all those who don't have a pure heart. ^^ Frieza would be hurt by this even worse than Vegita was, if the bomb connects. ^^

C.) Frieza did not know what Goku was doing (or so I remember). Frieza thought he was going to do some last-ditch, weakling attack, or possibly a suicide attack.

D.) I don't seem to remember Vegita dying. ^^ Care to tell me how he got it? :)

[fireguy]

Frieza shot an energy blast through Vegetas chest.

[Ko Hakaisha]

Oh, yes. ^^ I remember now. Thx for the help! ^^

[Schizm]

Damn it, I missed today's episoe...and it sounds like it was worth seeing :(

[Ko Hakaisha]

Kinda was ... Don't worry, they'll show it again in a month or so. ^^

[eva2000]

i get the feeling Aussie tv - cheez tv won't be showing any more dbz after it's first run :( ... does anyone else get that feeling ?

[Schizm]

Hopefully Cartoon network will begin with the 'new' episodes after they complete repeating the current ones...

[Wolfpac]

The series on Cartoon Network finishes on the 11th of August.
It will be replaced by Jumanji

[Marius]

long time no see pplz. i've got a theory on why it wasn't Vegeta that showed up. I reckon it was because the Ginyu force were all killed way before (well not that long but the eps did drag it out) Vegeta was. so they would've had more time to get there.
anyone reckon they'll fight Yamcha, Tien and Chiou Xu?

[VegetaBigBang]

wait think about it The battle between Goku and frieza was just 1 day not 2 weeks or 3 weeks it was just 1 day and on that day vegeta died and Practicly Vegeta is brought back 24 hours after he died or even less and think about it the Ginyu Force are really strong and fast it would have taken them like a day or less to get there oh and BTW Tien and Yamcha kick there asses and send them flying of snake way all i know is that Burter and Jeice went for a combined furball combo attack and a comet blast pack and Tien went into the middle of them and bang they went flying

[Edited by VegetaBigBang on 28-07-2000 at 06:23 PM]

[Atomic]

i knew that goku was going to use the spirit bomb today. don't ask me how or why? i just had a feeling that he would. also for some reason i knew that it wasn't going to make contact with frieza today.

how did the ginyu force know about king kai's? and why are they there?

[Edited by Commander Atomic on 29-07-2000 at 07:28 PM]

[VegetaBigBang]

who knows but wait if you die then you are sentanced to go to heaven or hell and since most of the evil guys are strong wouldn't all of them over power king Yemi just somthing thats not right again but i really wouldn't know about them knowing about snakeway and king kais

[Pen2]

ugh my post didn't come up yesterday. here it is again........

did you hear it? did you?

"Goku's Kamaya maya attack was ultra powerful........"

AAAAARRRRRRRRRGGGGGGGHHHHHHHHH!!!!

*phew* anyway....

It is impossible for the Ginyu force to have overpowered Yama. For one thing if you are killed you (usually) turn up as one of those small cloud type things that you always see in front of Yama's desk. these are souls awaiting judgement. Goku was an exception to this due to Kami's assistance. No idea how it worked for Piccolo and the rest. It is quite frankly, impossible to "overpower" Yama. much later Yama has no problems sending Darbura where he wants to, and Darbura should technically be able to absolutely cream Yama. So how did the Ginyu force end up at Kaiousama's? Two words - plot hole

[VegetaBigBang]

Toriyama never did look ahead did he but no anyone can be brought back weather they go to heaven or hell but the wish has to be befor 1 year or the person in hell/heaven is there for eternity

[Pen2]

exactly :D

[Yuusuke]

Well, it's not a plot hole, one word, it's 'filler.' Toei just really sucks, and always messed up Dragonball, changing the name to Z and stretching the series from 42 tankouben (sp? or manga volumes) into about 500 episodes.
And I think that Piccolo (et al) get their bodies when they die because of all of the things that they've done to help Earth. Or, that's what Kaiou-sama (King Kai) tells Kulilen when he and Yamucha are dead and training against. . .some romans (much, much later in Dragonball).
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[Ko Hakaisha]

So WHY is it impossible for the Ginyu Force to overpower Yama? Ya kinda lost me there ... If anything, it seems like THAT is the plot hole. To me, that is.

[Yuusuke]

Well, I hate using Dragonball GT for reference *shrugs* Oh well. Anyways, in a later episode of Dragonball GT (shudder), it shows Piccolo in heaven, wanting to go to Hell to help Goku who's trapped in there (with Cell and Freeza, who seem weak now). Enma-daiou (King Yemma) says that he can't do that, so Piccolo starts killing those little clouds in heaven and Enma-daiou gets mad, says Piccolo is going to Hell ^_^;; and Picco|o appears in Hell.
Oh, and the fact that dead people usually show up as clouds unless given permission to have a body when dead, that'd help, since they'd be really weak.
Though, Janenba did kinda break the rules of heaven/hell, by taking all of the (Oni) prisoner. :)
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[Pen2]

Well okay i'll try again. You know Darbura right? Babidi's bodyguard? When he gets killed, Yama still passes judgement on him (sending him to heaven, because Yama thought he would enjoy Hell) and compared to him, the Ginyu force are a bunch of pansies.

[Ko Hakaisha]

Well, maybe the Ginyu force would have a slight advantage over him ... ^^ Their numbers. They could attack Yama in multiple ways, etc. to defeat him. Gang up on him and stuff.

And King Kai is much stronger than Yama, but it's fairly apparent that Goku is stronger than him ... And Goku had trouble beating the Ginyu (albeit not much), so ... Maybe Yama just trained a lot suddenly.

Or maybe the Ginyu (with their Gangster ways) decided to jump one of the poor little fluff-ball cloud things and beat it until they found out where King Kai's place was. ^^

[Atomic]

that last idea could of happend, but how did they know about king kai's. nobody told them about king kai, and if they did, king kai probably would of started swearing his head.

[VegetaBigBang]

no no you are wrong goku didn't have trouble beating the ginyu he only had trouble beating Ginyu with the body switch and all

[Pen2]

And the Ginyu forces power is measured in thousands. skip ahead to the buu saga, and Darbura's power is measured in millions :eek: so if Yama could send Darbura where he wanted to, the Ginyu force would have been easy as pie

[Yuusuke]

:lol:
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[Ko Hakaisha]

Well, maybe (as I said) Yama did some hefty training. ^^

But, to support my last reason ... A.) King Kai knew about the Ginyu Force. I guess it's reasonable that, if he knew about such a secret force, they'd know he knew. ^^ And, if that was the case, they'd know he existed. Possibly even knew that he was in heaven or whatever. Then they'd just beat up on the cloud-puff guys.