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Old 29-01-2005, 04:03 PM   #16   [permalink]
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You know, there's only one thing that's for certain... Kaji Dies and we don't know who did.

Unless we find Anno and beat it out of him
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Old 29-01-2005, 09:23 PM   #17   [permalink]
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Originally Posted by Black_Knight
You know, there's only one thing that's for certain... Kaji Dies and we don't know who did.

Unless we find Anno and beat it out of him
Except that we do know who killed Kaji. And Anno told us.
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Old 28-02-2005, 06:04 PM   #18   [permalink]
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Old 24-03-2005, 01:23 AM   #19   [permalink]
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Does anyone here think it's possible Dr. Ikari did it? I mean Kaji was like his left hand man (I say that because the other Dr. was his right hand man, forgive my lack of using names...it's been a while.) Ikari realized what Kaji was doing and killed him. I mean I highly doubt all of Kaji's actions were orders handed down from Ikari although he was in cahoots with him through certain parts of the series.

Basically Ikari hired him to do a few "certain" things, but Kaji was playing Ikari all along and using his relationship with him just as a means to an end. The end being discovering what all was "really" going on at NERV. Ikari wised up and offed him.

I think it's very plausible Ikari did it, I mean he did kill Ritsuko.
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Old 24-03-2005, 10:22 AM   #20   [permalink]
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Who Shot Ryoji Kaji?

Ryoji Kaji is probably the coolest character in Neon Genesis Evangelion. He was a "Triple Agent", working for the Special Inspections Division of NERV, the Investigations Department of the Japanese Ministry of Internal Affairs, and also directly for SEELE. He was the "James Bond" of Evangelion, he did all the cool stuff, he slept with the hottest babe (Misato Katsuragi), he was always searching for the truth, and in the end his actions brought about his demise. In Evangelion Episode 21, with the famous last words "Hi! You're late.", the gunshot sounded and Kaji was killed.

Debate has raged for years among Eva no Otaku over who shot Kaji. We never see the shooter, never hear them speak, we only ever see Kaji greeting them (nonchalant as ever) and then hearing the gunshot.

First I shall attempt to disprove the notion that wasn't even shot, that it was all an elaborate ruse. This theory circulates most among the legions of devoted Kaji lovers out there, who can't stand to believe that their favourite character was shot and killed. There is ample evidence within the series itself to show that Kaji is dead including Misato crying over the answering machine. Asuka suggesting in episode 22 when the phone rings that it could be Kaji and Misato saying that it couldn't be him, and Shinji telling Asuka directly that Kaji is not coming back. The most straightforward way of disproving that notion though it to refer to The End of Evangelion - Theatrical Program, which is an official canon document. It states direct that that Kaji was shot to death. He is dead.

But who killed him? Who shot Ryoji Kaji?

A lot of Japanese viewers thought that Misato Katsuragi shot Kaji. They believed that, among other things, because you see the door of Misato's apartment closing just after the gunshot (you see the name plate on it saying "M. KATSURAGI"), it must mean that Anno Hideaki (the director/creator of Evangelion) wanted to hint that Misato killed Kaji. Anno never intended this cut to be a clue of any sort. In fact he was taken aback when he heard that's fans thought it was Misato. He stated directly that it wasn't Misato and he even edited Evangelion Episode 21 for the Japanese Video release to remove the cut of the door saying "M. KATSURAGI", putting in a cut of the street instead. He removed it because he didn't want people thinking it was Misato! He was actually shocked that people thought it was Misato and was embarrassed that people thought they found "hints" where there were actually no "hints" at all. Some also point to where Misato threatened to kill Kaji in Evangelion Episode 15 as proof that she actually did in Episode 21. This doesn't hold up though because by Episode 21 (and this is show specifically at the end of Episode 20) Misato and Kaji are both doing the same thing, "looking for the truth", after Kaji is killed the baton is passed onto Misato to uncover the "truth".

Anno has said straight out that it wasn't Misato who shot Kaji. Also in the "Checkpoint" section of the official film book, it states that the person who shot Kaji was not a main character. It was some nameless security officer from either NERV or SEELE.

In the original scenario for Episode 21 there is a scene where one of the NERV security officers enters Gendou's office and tells him that Fuyutsuki has returned but that they couldn't find the man who kidnapped him (which of course is Kaji).
Then the scene that follows is where the NERV security officer goes to Misato, gives her gun back, and tells her that "it's over now" and that they "don't know where 'he' is". It seems clear that nobody at NERV knows where Kaji is.

SEELE would though. In Evangelion Episode 20 SEELE refer to Kaji as a bell attached to Gendou Ikari's neck but which doesn't ring. Then they say that they will make the bell work. Kaji kidnaps Fuyutsuki for SEELE, but then in the end he frees him. In the redone Evangelion Episode 21 there is added dialogue between Kaji and Fuyutsuki, Kaji is warned by Fuyutsuki, that by freeing him is probably going to get him killed, by Kaji replies that "They", referring to SEELE, have found out that Kaji stole Adam (in Evangelion Episode 08) from them and gave it to Gendou. The passage is as follows:

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Fuyutsuki: It's you.

Kaji: It's long since the last time.

Fuyutsuki: This action will result in your death.

Kaji: I just want to get closer to the truth... the truth within me. Besides, it seems they're catching on to the fact that I smuggled the Adam sample for Commander Ikari. If I don't start looking out for myself, things could be looking grim... for me.
To further support that notion here is an except from the description of episode 21 found on page 83 of the Newtype 100% book. "...Kaji frees Fuyutsuki, but that act costs him his own life. Misato is released and returns home, where she infers Kaji's death from his message on her answering machine..."

It seems clear that SEELE wanted Kaji killed. As to who shot him, well Anno has said it wasn't a main character, that it was a third party, just a security officer. There is not "hidden truth" to Kaji's death, SEELE had him killed but not in an important way, they just sent a security agent to shoot him. Kaji faced death, as he had always faced life, with the indifferent coolness that won him so many fans. Ryoji Kaji rest in peace.

BTW this only applies to the anime. In the Manga Sadamoto hints strongly that Gendou killed Kaji.
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Old 07-04-2005, 02:45 PM   #21   [permalink]
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i belive that it is highly possible that it was gendo because in the series in episodes 25 and 26 he helps iniciate the instramentality project by just starting to shoot people so shows that he would have no prob with killing
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Old 11-04-2005, 03:11 AM   #22   [permalink]
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The booklet that comes with Vol. 6 of Evangelion Platinum says that the DC episode suggests strongly that some random agent of SEELE did the job.
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Old 11-04-2005, 02:40 PM   #23   [permalink]
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yeah but i dont think one could come up with the red book as being related to seele if u know that when the power goes out the little emergency book that rei has is red and it was gendo that gave it to her and it was the same type of book that kaji had
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Old 12-04-2005, 07:42 AM   #24   [permalink]
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i agree that it was just an agent of SEELE or of NERV itself,but there is no way i think misato was the killer,look at her break down after the message she found on her answer machine,she loved him for god sake!
like sum1said earlier(soz cant remember!)he would of told her those words to her face if he thought he was goin2see her.he knew some1 was after him
i quote...''IF i can see you again...id say the words,i could not say eight years ago''
by the way im lovin the pizza theory!!!!!!!lol lol that was great!nicely done!
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yeah no way misato could have done it she broke down realy bad
the sad part is that asuka refused to belive that kaji was dead
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Old 01-07-2005, 09:04 PM   #26   [permalink]
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It seems clear that SEELE wanted Kaji killed. As to who shot him, well Anno has said it wasn't a main character, that it was a third party, just a security officer. There is not "hidden truth" to Kaji's death, SEELE had him killed but not in an important way, they just sent a security agent to shoot him. Kaji faced death, as he had always faced life, with the indifferent coolness that won him so many fans. Ryoji Kaji rest in peace.
At first I thought Kaji was a James-Bond archetype. However, on closer inspection, his indifference is also the tragic thing about him. His predicament is one of continued high tension, and the only way he can deal with it is by a detached, almost superficial indifference, which often extends to his relationships with people. It can be argued that his cool exterior is masking an amazing empty depth.
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In the manga, Misato is entirely cleared of killing Kaji. I would kill him if I had the chance. I hate him!
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For the very last time:

JFK killed Kaji.

Debate over.

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Arg! It was Rei!.. that blue haired harbinger of death!

Or it was Anno, or the Pizza man, or Pen-Pen, or his phantom alter-ego, or those random unamed agents, but above all else it must of been Rei!
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