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HedgehogDilemma
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Would anyone happen to have the full story of the "Hedgehog's Dilemma" fable???


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The hedgehogs dilemma is simply that it cannot get close enough to another hedgehog and share its feelings because if it gets to close the spikes of the other hedgehog will hurt it. This relates to shinji because he feels as though he cannot feel close to anyone (especially misato) because he fears he may get hurt again when he attaches himself to someone as he did with his father.


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Yes but don't forget to mention that at the end he comes out of that. It applies to Shinji at the beginning of our story because he is like that but as our story progresses he comes out of his psycological shell and is, by the end a new man so to speak. both him and Misato come a long way.


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I know what the story is about, I just want the "Actual" story all written out etc.


eva2000
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Hi HedgehogDilemma and welcome to my message board...

do you mean a transcript of the dialogue or a synopsis of it ?


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no i think he means the actual fable that Ritsuko is quoting from. I don't think i've heard it anywhere apart from Evangelion however.....
----"Gyaaa" -Penē


eva2000
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i think i have heard it elsewhere back in high school or somewhere.. can't remember exactly...


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I didn't even think that the Hedgehog's dilema was even a fable, or a story of any sort. I've always thought it was a term pychologists use to describe mental conditions that Shinji has.
I guess that saying 'Hedgehog's Dilema' is a lot quicker than saying that 'this person suffers from a mental condition where they don't want to get close to person because . . . . etc, ect, etc, ect'. Doctors can be as lazy as other people, I suppose.

Of course, I'm probably wrong, and one of the Eva experts will pop up with the story and make me look like an idiot.



Access
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I found the hedgehog's dillema in a book of fables at school, but im not typing it, (to lazy).
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*sighs*


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The Hedgehog's dilemme, I remember, was a psychological metaphor for people who couls not really associate closely with others. It may have been taken from the fable or have been coverted into a fablt to teach children about socialisation in a moral. Or it could just be a story and I have wasted time.


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I would say taken from a fable.
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Schopenhauer is the original author of this story. A rough summary of it: a pack of hedgehogs were caught out on a cold night. Trying to keep warm, they huddled together, but immediately moved apart as they stung one another with their quills. After a while, the cold would get to them again, and they would huddle together, only to repeat the process. In the strife of cold and pain, they eventually found a distance where the pain of the others' stings, and the bitterness of the cold, were both bearable.

It wasn't until Freud picked up on this, and applied it as part of his range of interpersonal theories, that the Hedgehog's Dilemma was introduced as a figure of speech in psychology.


eva2000
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thanks 3foolishmen

it's the first time i heard the whole thing as a whole i think ...
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