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Old 02-08-2003, 07:13 AM   #1   [permalink]
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Problems with W98 & a network card

Hopefully one of the many fine technical experts on AB can give me a hand with this problem.

Windows 98 on my old computer refuses to acknowledge the existence of network card I've installed, no matter how many times I reinstall it and the drivers. On the rare occasion it realizes its got this funny extra card on board and installs it, it's gone again as soon as I do a reboot.

A friend of mine looked at it a while ago and said the problem was that it was on the same IRQ as the sound card, but I've since ripped the sound card out and deleted it from the Device Manager, but I'm still having the same problem. The card's a D-link DFE 538TX and I'm running windows 98 second edition if that's any help.
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Old 02-08-2003, 08:36 PM   #2   [permalink]
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hmm... weird... We never had that problem with my old Celeron 400.. and we had the same NIC and OS....

how old is the install of Windows 98SE? the fact that it could be severely bloated might be a reason.... Mind you, when we installed the NIC we installed it onto a 4 year old installation of 98SE....

IRQ is the most likely reason.. but as you've said, you've ripped out the sound card....

Hmmm....

What's your computers specs? what's the sound card that you took out of it?

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Old 03-08-2003, 05:19 AM   #3   [permalink]
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I only just reformatted the harddrive and reinstalled 98 a few months ago, so that shouldn't be too much of a problem (of course, with 98 you should never use 'shouldn't be' and 'problem' in the same sentence.)

The computer's an Intel 400Mhz on a 440BX motherboard with 192mb of RAM. The sound card was an Eagle ES1938 PCI. Last night I managed to install the network card and after a couple of reboots it was still registering with windows, but then the system locked up about five to ten minutes after the last reboot and after I restarted, the card was no longer there.

Would a reinstall of 98 be any help, do you think?
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Old 03-08-2003, 09:52 AM   #4   [permalink]
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you can always modify the IRQ range within the device properties. go to the memory allocation tab or somthing and modify away.
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Old 04-08-2003, 07:10 PM   #5   [permalink]
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you can always modify the IRQ range within the device properties. go to the memory allocation tab or somthing and modify away.
If you do that, make sure you move the IRQ of the Network card, not the sound card...
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Old 04-08-2003, 09:22 PM   #6   [permalink]
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I tried adjusting the IRQ, but that didn't fix the problem. In fact it made a bigger mess of the computer, so I've reset everything to the default values. One interesting thing I've noted is that when the system detects the network card, it's showing up on the listing of PCI devices during boot up, and when it's not detecting it, it's gone from the list. Does this mean the problem might be earlier in the boot up process, before windows is loaded?
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Old 09-08-2003, 11:09 PM   #7   [permalink]
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Have you tried different PCI slots? maybe the PCI slot is a bit screwwy.

But I feel your pain. I am right now using a monitor that goes yellow, red, purple and inbetween those colours
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Old 10-08-2003, 09:01 PM   #8   [permalink]
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Yes, I've tried physically pulling it out and placing it in several slots, even the sound cards' old slot, still nothing.
Given the fact that most of the time it's not showing up in the PCI list during boot up, would an update of the BIOS have any effect, or would I be wasting my time?
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Old 11-08-2003, 09:50 PM   #9   [permalink]
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get XP
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Old 12-08-2003, 06:11 AM   #10   [permalink]
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Disregard. I've decided to just rip the guts out of that computer and upgrade it. Hopefully to something that works. Thanks for all your help just the same.

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Old 23-08-2003, 11:09 PM   #11   [permalink]
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hehehe, XP is good too. It I didn't even use the driver disc for my Net card. It just goes "ooh lok a net card"......"installed"

Kawanua:: wait...huh? oh installed?....huh!? kewl!

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Old 24-08-2003, 07:33 AM   #12   [permalink]
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hehehe, XP is good too. It I didn't even use the driver disc for my Net card. It just goes "ooh lok a net card"......"installed"

Kawanua:: wait...huh? oh installed?....huh!? kewl!

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With the exception of brand new devices that XP doesn't have drivers for, and 56K modems, it generally does that
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Old 24-08-2003, 08:53 AM   #13   [permalink]
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XP looks so like a smiley that has its eyes closed with tongues sticking out. but back on topic...

XP should do the trick. after all, it does have a lot of drivers for the 'old' hardware well, you can't help 56k modems because there are just so many of them out there.
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Old 24-08-2003, 09:33 AM   #14   [permalink]
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looks like a guy who's had a sour warhead, trying to contain himself but his tongue slips out. lol
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probably not one, but two or three. if it was xp yeah, there's only one, but he's going XP, which i think is around two or three of those evil lollies.
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