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Old 11-11-2001, 03:42 AM   #1   [permalink]
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2nd Angel

OK. This may have been posted before, and I will apologise right now if it was, but I really need to clear this up.

According to EVACORP, the angels are as follows

ADAM
The First Angel - Of The Red Earth
LILITH
The Second Angel - Of The Black Moon
SAKIEL
The Third Angel - Of Water
SHAMSHIEL
The Fourth Angel - Of The Day
RAMIEL
The Fifth Angel - Of Thunder
GAGIEL
The Sixth Angel - Of Fish
ISRAFEL
The Seventh Angel - Of Music
SANDALPHON
The Eighth Angel - Of Embryos
MATORIEL
The Nineth Angel - Of Rain
SAHAQUIEL
The Tenth Angel - Of Sky
IROUL
The Eleventh Angel - Of Fear
LELIEL
The Twelveth Angel - Of Night
BARDIEL
The Thirteenth Angel - Of Hail
ZERUEL
The Fourteenth Angel - Of Might
ARAEL
The Fifteenth Angel - Of Bird
ALMISAEL
The Sixteenth Angel - Of Womb
TABRIS/KAORU NAGISA
The Seventeenth Angel - Of Free Will
HUMANIS
The Eighteenth Angel - Of Life

However, I have also the idea that Lilith and Humanis are one and the same, because in the end of evangelion, Humans merged into lilith.

A further proof is this picture, from an official Bandai Gainax Evangelion EVA 03 (Bardiel) model:

http://www.ehobbyland.com/EVA/EVA-13.jpg

It does not list the 18th Angel, which is Human/Lilith, but more interestingly, it states the 2nd Angel as Unknown!

So which is it? Is the 2nd Angel lilith, or some unknown being? And why?
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Old 11-11-2001, 04:18 AM   #2   [permalink]
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...I could answer this, but I'm not going too. I'm sure though that someone will speak up about it.
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Old 11-11-2001, 04:25 AM   #3   [permalink]
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The First Angel - Adam, comes from the White Moon, Adam's egg, not the "Red Earth".

There is no such thing as "humanis".

According to Misato the 18th Angel is just Humanity, "Humanis is just something on the ADV video covers, it is wrong and is never mentioned anywhere in the series or movies"

The Second Angel is a mystery for a lot of the series and was a mystery for a very long time. Everyone (who knew what they were talking about) thought that it was Misato, but no one had any proof. Well proof was finally found that Lilith = The Second Angel when the Eva card game was released.

See the following card:

The Second Angel
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Old 11-11-2001, 04:34 AM   #4   [permalink]
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ah, ok. I didnt know because I didnt know about the card game.

Why would they think the second angel was Misato??

I kinda figured out the Humanity/Humanis part, but since I was copying and pasting from EVACORP, I did not bother to change it...
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Misato as the Second Angel!?@!?
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Old 11-11-2001, 04:58 AM   #6   [permalink]
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MDWigs it seems as though in your post you made a slight writing error with you information.

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The Second Angel is a mystery for a lot of the series and was a mystery for a very long time. Everyone (who knew what they were talking about) thought that it was Misato, but no one had any proof. Well proof was finally found that Lilith = The Second Angel when the Eva card game was released.
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Old 11-11-2001, 05:32 AM   #7   [permalink]
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Well, I always thought the second angel was Lilith, as Lilith was Adam's first wife in Judaism.........
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Old 11-11-2001, 10:13 AM   #8   [permalink]
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WOW!

Man I really must be tired.

Sorry all. I didn't mean Misato.

That line should read:

Everyone (who knew what they were talking about) thought that it was Lilith, but no one had any proof.

Again sorry, I have a test in less than 8 hours, and I doubt I will sleep between then and now, its COMS3200 - Computer Networks 1 and it is really hardcore. Anyway...

BENKYO! BENKYO! BENKYO! BENKYO! BENKYO! BENKYO! BENKYO!
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Old 11-11-2001, 12:56 PM   #9   [permalink]
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Heh…heh… phase one complete…



Anywho… in the offical Ganiax report the Second angel is listed as "Unknown" Although all information points to Lilith…
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Well even with that which you showed MDWigs I still stay beside my theory that Adam and Lillith who were equals, came into existence at the exact same time. So both to me are deemed as the first. But when you release a card set you can't have two one cards, so they released them as 1 then 2.

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And although I am not fond of MDWigs in even the slightest sences… I'm going to give my good luck to him… And save my ass a lot of trouble in the long run… (It doesn't consern you so don't ask, don't tell)

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Getting hit on AB is like an attack in my own home. Curse you BK, CURSE YOU!
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Thanks guys. The test went well, much better than I had anticipated ^_^

fireguy, I also think that Adam and Lilith may have been one being and then later split, but even if that is the case, you have a second spot open, the first spot is taken completely by Adam, so I think it is most logical to put Lilith in that second spot.
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Old 11-11-2001, 09:59 PM   #13   [permalink]
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Quote:
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And although I am not fond of MDWigs in even the slightest sences… I'm going to give my good luck to him

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I thought you were female MDWigs. Am I wrong? I seem to have read it off anothe thread.

Anyway, I'm happy about the turn-out of your test.
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Well I can tell the turth and say I'm felmale… Would that effect anyone in anyway?
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I am not saying if I am male or female. I don't think it really matters what my gender is. Most people automatically assume I am male and thus use masculine pronouns. Rarely someone assumes that I am femals and uses a female pronoun. I don't bother correcting people anymore, I don't think it really matters, and I don't presonally care if people call me by the wrong sex ^^
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