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Old 23-05-2001, 02:42 AM   #31   [permalink]
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Old 16-06-2001, 12:36 AM   #32   [permalink]
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The AMD Thunderbirf 1.4 Gig will be coming out soon in Aus

I've heard it kicks even Intels 1.7 gig in some aspects
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Old 16-06-2001, 12:47 AM   #33   [permalink]
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The AMD Thunderbirf 1.4 Gig will be coming out soon in Aus

I've heard it kicks even Intels 1.7 gig in some aspects
it's already out http://www.computeralliance.com.au/p...wn&PartID=1257
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Old 16-06-2001, 02:21 AM   #34   [permalink]
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Its the old debate....

Get which ever is better for your purpose... Gaming AMD... Most other P3

As for people saying that AMD is cheaper... that is partly false... AMD CPU's may be cheaper but the mobo's are more expensive..... and the vice versa foe P3... don't go P4 they are lame and have ------ expensive rambus ram
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Old 17-06-2001, 07:36 PM   #35   [permalink]
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We did a presentation about this a few months ago, and did some research on this. Apparently a 1,2Ghz Thunderbirds would outperformed the P4 1,4 Ghz at almost everything, graphics, games, diVX encoding and even office application. The only thing that was for a p4 was stability and some other programs. I don't think the 1,7 P4 would do any better than a 1,4 Athlon in performance and mobo for a athlon is just as expensive as a P4, sometimes even less since you don't have to buy rambus ram.
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Old 17-06-2001, 07:53 PM   #36   [permalink]
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Old 18-06-2001, 04:59 AM   #37   [permalink]
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Old 08-07-2001, 07:19 AM   #38   [permalink]
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AMD all the way. All my friends who happen to be really talented with puters were firm supporters of Pentium's but they just fell in love with the Athlon because of the fact it worked well and thy were much cheaper, now they all have em.
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Old 08-07-2001, 08:25 AM   #39   [permalink]
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Apparently a 1,2Ghz Thunderbirds would outperformed the P4 1,4 Ghz at almost everything, graphics, games, diVX encoding and even office application.
I'm in the middle on this issue, but I like AMD cause they're nice and cheap. are you sure? i know weird stuff always happens occasionally when you read benchtests from PC User, but that shouldn't usually happen should it? you did use all the same specs for everything right? cause nowerdays, big distributers like Dell undercut all the specs on their comps just for the sake of a flashy name. *1.7Ghz P4!!!* then at the bottom u have some ------ GF2 MX, 10GB HDD, 15" which basically caps the performance of the comp so hard.
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I've never owned a AMD chip, but I told they are good value. But I'm also told that the chipset is crap and it can cause a lot of problems. My next computer will probably be an AMD, depends if Intel lower their prices and the opinion of AMD is still high.

And I think multi processor systems are a waste of money unless your running a server or doing lots of data processing and how many home users are doing that. It's funny when people say they have dual processors on a win98 machine.
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Im thinking of getting a multi proc system ... just for the arse of it. Then I could go in that AB SETI club... and hold my head high!
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Unless you're logged in as someone other than Instrumentality...I don't see your name on there. You'd have a LOT of catching up to do! But no one's stopping ya...
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As for people saying that AMD is cheaper... that is partly false... AMD CPU's may be cheaper but the mobo's are more expensive.....
The mobos will last longer though [in upgrading terms - not durability], so its actually cheaper in the long run, cause AMD [excluding k6's] only use Socket A mobos now, which can facilitate Durons and Athlons, so it will still have sometime to go [depending on what mobo it is, ie DDR support?]. For pentium, u need completely different mobos for 3/4 [duh i know], even then, its kind of uncertain if Intel will stick with Rambus [they say they will!], but if they sellout to DDR, then that means u will have to buy another [probably even more expensive] mobo...

BTW Rambus sux, did u know u actually had to fill in unused slots with plastic [or whateva] sticks. Pretty stable stuff!

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Unless you're logged in as someone other than Instrumentality...I don't see your name on there. You'd have a LOT of catching up to do! But no one's stopping ya...
Im not 'with' SETI, there's not much point as this comp I use is rarely left on. And whats the point if you cant leave it crunching overnight?
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The mobos will last longer though [in upgrading terms - not durability], so its actually cheaper in the long run, cause AMD [excluding k6's] only use Socket A mobos now, which can facilitate Durons and Athlons, so it will still have sometime to go [depending on what mobo it is, ie DDR support?].

How long has the BX chipset been around??? It started in the days of the Deschutes PII's and is still going strong with the latest PIII's. So really, the mobo "lastability" is a bit of a non issue.


AMD PROS:
Cheap as chips
Fastest processors on the market for PC's
Overclockable by multiplier

AMD CONS:
Glass core, VERY EASILY CHIPPED
Warranty void if you overclock by connecting L1 bridges (overcome in latest TBirds)
VERY HOT
Most prominent motherboards are based on VIA chipset... VIA has had a reputation for finicky problems with mobo and cpu and hardware clashes. The KT133 and KT133A chipsets were two of the most problematic chipsets.
Not ALL software will run on an AMD cpu (I'm not kidding either)
For the first time builder, or novice PC user... these things can be an absolute NIGHTMARE!

Intel PROS (I'm talking all but P4):
Not super dear anymore
Cheap motherboards
More SMP solutions
VERY STABLE processors
BX chipset a VERY stable mobo platform
Reputation as a stable company
Still very fast, faster than AMD in certain areas

Intel CONS:
Still more expensive than AMD
P4 is WAY TOO EXPENSIVE, especially considering it uses RAMBUS
No real upgrade path EXCEPT P4 at the moment
i815 chipset is a little flakey



It comes down to choice. What do you need to do, or want out of your system?

If you want ROCK stability, go Intel. If you want bang for buck, go AMD. That's the basic choice.
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