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Old 23-05-2001, 10:43 AM   #1   [permalink]
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Harddrive?

I am planning to buy a new 60 gb hd, there is two version a 7200 and 5400 rpm model. The 5400 rpm is 20% cheaper than the 7200.
Whats the difference in performance, speed, datatransfer and noise production.

Which company is better at making hd?
I am quite happy with my 10.2 gb quantum fireball cx. Most of my friends have really bad experience with Western Digital.
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Old 23-05-2001, 11:29 AM   #2   [permalink]
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60 huh? wow.... theres no doubt buy 7200rpm, MAJOR differnce and all the new windows, processors, and software are optimized for it. ULTRA ATA....that is what you are looking for when you buy a hard drive.

I've never had one bit of problems with my Western 30giger. Its Ultra ATA and it with my board and processor are instant!

Wester Digital 30gb 7200 Ultra ATA 100
Seagate 8gb 7200 ATA 66 I believe
Matrox 4gb 5400

Those are my three drives...my Seagate is the noisiest and slowest. I love the Western....I supose if I had the money to blow I would go with the IBM Deskstar Hard drives, but they are overpriced if you ask me.

Best Buy has been running a sale on the WD 30 giger for 99 bucks...YOU CANT beat that
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Old 23-05-2001, 01:31 PM   #3   [permalink]
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... I would suggest the 7200... model... significantly faster than the 5400 models... I base this on the fact that I noticed a speed difference prior to benchmarking on a friends system (which was very similar to mine)

... as for brands, I also had some problems with Western Digital, and since then have gone over to Maxtor (no problems so far), relatively cheap and very available.

... in fact, if memory serves... CompUSA just had a sale on 7200 rpm 60 gig maxtors for 199$ 7200 rmp 40 gig maxtors for 129 .. and of course, the prices online should be even cheaper!

...last point, with IDE drives, the rated maximum i.e. ATA 100 is the theoretical maximum, your actual burst rate will be less than 100 (significantly) ... so on that alone, I would stay away from 5400's.

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Old 23-05-2001, 04:52 PM   #4   [permalink]
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Another question I forgot to ask, I think I have readed somewhere, but don't remember it clearly.
Question is can I hook a ultra ata 100 on my ultra 66 plugs on my mainboard? They mention in the magazine that a new harddisk is backward linkageable on previous standard(this case my p3b-f from Asus). They also said something like since a harddisk can't pushed anymore than 33 mb per sec, so the bandwidth of a ultra ata66 is more than sufficient.
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Old 24-05-2001, 12:54 AM   #5   [permalink]
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Yes, an ATA 100 drive is backward comatible, but your performance will be constrained by what your board will support.

Of course, there is always ATA 100 add on cards that will upgrade your basic system capacity, but remember that IDE performance is tied to your CPU utilization... a slow board and CPU will further degrade the potential ATA 100 burst throughput...

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Old 24-05-2001, 08:14 AM   #6   [permalink]
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So what we are saying really...is look at the amount of the Hard drive price wise....then look at what a 1gig Tbird and MB would cost. You might want to go that route, you will notice MAJOR performace increase in everything by upgrading the MP and CPU if its older.

What is your system now?
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Old 24-05-2001, 11:35 AM   #7   [permalink]
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Well, like I mention before a asus P3B-f with ultra ata66 I think and a Pentium3 450MHz and 192mb ram. Already have a 10,2 gb hd a DVD rom and a CD-rewriter on the IDE interface.
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Old 24-05-2001, 03:31 PM   #8   [permalink]
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OH ya, lol.

Well personaly 10gigs a decent amount of space. I would upgrade your MB and processor, the only problem is usualy when you change MB and processors you need to reformat and do a fresh install (helps to reduce registry errors etc.)

Its your call...I just feel like haveing a high performance drive in an older computer is like having a v12 merc engine in an Escort

You can easily get a 1gig Tbird and MB for under 300 dollars. Of course there might be the added cost if your old case is AT and you need to upgrade to an ATX tower, but most P3s I know are ATX.
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Old 24-05-2001, 03:45 PM   #9   [permalink]
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i'd get the IBM Deskstar if you can they are very quiet

i have a

30GB IBM Desktar 7200 rpm and a 15GB Quantum LM 7200 rpm hdd in this pc of mine and a 15GB Quantum LM 7200 rpm in my other pc and Quantums are noisy beasts..

in fact my 30GB IBM drive is quieter than my 10GB IBM 5400 rpm hdd !
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Old 24-05-2001, 03:55 PM   #10   [permalink]
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Well i'm a cheep arse...but I totaly agree that the Deskstar is an excellent drive, if it were 80 bucks cheeper I would have it in my computer instead of the WD right now...but well yeah, i'm a cheep arse hehe.

That Maxtor 60gb for $199 sounds like one hell of a deal though How much is the IBM your looking at?
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Old 24-05-2001, 06:06 PM   #11   [permalink]
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OH ya, lol.

Well personaly 10gigs a decent amount of space. I would upgrade your MB and processor, the only problem is usualy when you change MB and processors you need to reformat and do a fresh install (helps to reduce registry errors etc.)

Its your call...I just feel like haveing a high performance drive in an older computer is like having a v12 merc engine in an Escort

You can easily get a 1gig Tbird and MB for under 300 dollars. Of course there might be the added cost if your old case is AT and you need to upgrade to an ATX tower, but most P3s I know are ATX.
Its not really performance I was looking for, but more a combination of Capacity, performance and value. I am quite happy with my P3, it has serve me well for the past two years and it going to serve me better as a second computer when I am going to buy a thunderbird 1,3Ghz(or better, it all depends on what I can spend after summervacation). I keep lots of my CoughdownloadedCough animes on my hd, suddenly 10 gig isn't much, so capacity is a must, performance comes second and unlike other people I have a budget.
BTW your anecdotes(camparison or whatever I didn't pay much attention at school) doesn't apply here, since my system isn't outdated like you believe, it still can run any program with ease. I know cause I am programming in JBuilder(java), Cbuilder(c++) and delphi.

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Old 24-05-2001, 07:32 PM   #12   [permalink]
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Very true...I did not mean to say your system was out dated.. I guess the main thing i'm seeing is the ATA 66 slots. With an updated board suporting Ultra ATA 100 you would get the best Hard Drive performance.

I guess I have no room to talk, because I put my 30 gig in my 500 AMD first when that motherboard was ATA 66
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Old 25-05-2001, 06:42 PM   #13   [permalink]
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I just ordered the IBM deskstar 60GB at 7200rpm 2mb cache
Now lets just hope it gets here soon. Hate to wait long

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Old 02-07-2001, 04:58 AM   #14   [permalink]
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Also on a more personal note
never get Westen Digital HDs

I've got 2 and their both dead (bad clusters)

Right now my computer is running on a Seagate ATA 100, 7200rpm, 20 GIG HD
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