robotech revisited

downgrade · 03-03-2002, 02:14 PM

as much as i have a general aversion to all things "re-released w/ new shiny improvements," i've had the notion for some time now that robotech should be redone. here's why.

ok, most of us know that robotech is actually 3 unrelated series, kinda haphazardly stitched together to make a cohesive storyline. we all love the story (ok most of us) that macek wove them together with, but if you're like me, you always felt that it was all done rather clumsily.

what i'm proposing is that harmony gold should hook up w/ one of the better animation companies in japan (*cough* sunrise! *cough* or whoever did macross plus) to recreate and completely overhaul the robotech series. same storyline, same characters, (same mecha), but with all new animation, and this time, design it from the ground up with the robotech storyline in mind.

a few things i would change, just to give you some examples of what i mean:

1) attempt to explain a natural progression behind the changing of each of the mechas in the three sagas, ie, show how the alpha fighters are improvements over the valkyries (cuz we know they're much cooler

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2) have the ruins of the sdf-1 that house the protoculture factory in the robotech masters saga actually LOOK like the ruins of the sdf-1, instead of three goofy little hills.

3) go into more depth the relationship between the robotech masters culture and that of their warriors, the zentraedi.

4) better explain and tie into the rest of the story, the invid (because they 0wnz j00)

all that, with shiny new animation too!!

so, what do you guys thinK? is this something you guys would support and be interested in?

now back to ffx.

//dg.

death · 03-03-2002, 09:05 PM

Well....

Just a note about 4 . Theyy did plan a large series but it was canned. Its in one of the art books.

sidewinder · 12-03-2002, 03:34 PM

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) attempt to explain a natural progression behind the changing of each of the mechas in the three sagas, ie, show how the alpha fighters are improvements over the valkyries (cuz we know they're much cooler )

well....70 missiles vs 6....who do you think is better

death · 12-03-2002, 06:28 PM

Huh 6? What carrys 6?

sidewinder · 13-03-2002, 09:28 AM

well, what i'm referring to is the 70 missiles of the VAF-6 series vs the VF's of SDF Macross....but i believe that an alpha can kick any valkyrie's arse....

Valkyrie · 17-03-2002, 03:21 AM

Urgh... don't like Robotech

But I can't stand HG even more. They're the reason why most of the Macross merchandise isn't getting to either America or Australia.

I certainly don't believe that they should continue a series that lacks original ideas- considering that HG merely mashed 3 series together from different animes doesn't constitute as a successful original idea to me.

By the way, HG isn't going to do anything like that anytime soon due to Studio Nue's recent court victory which in effect, puts HG in a spot of illegal controversy

Studio Nue isn't going to support a rival upstart which has been annoying them about selling overseas; and I doubt Sunrise is going to wade into such quagmire due to the legal implications that will arise from the recent events in Japan.

Oh yeah, sidewinder, try not to bag VF's when 1 modern (not even advanced) VF can take out all your VAF's in not just performance but in weapons as well. VF's can fire over 20 missiles from UNSPACY alone. The Zaubergeran from the Protodevlin can fire in excess of 100 missiles and has far better performance to match. Considering the VF's can carry reactionary weapons nicknamed 'planet busters' where 1 missile can destroy a whole Zentradi fleet kilometers in formation, VAF's don't stand much of a chance. Try thinking about the performance and statistics over personal preferences.

sidewinder · 18-03-2002, 09:35 AM

well, i was comparing the VAF to the VF from SDF macross

.....btw, how does the VBF compare to the others (i think that is its designation.....) ??? and don't forget the Veritechs from Southern Cross.......and then there's the Vindicator(don't recall it's designation)......

and considering that the VAF was the replacement for the VF in robotech.....

and also, you must consider the enemy that they are fighting.....the VAF was made to fight invid.... i don't really think that a VF(any VF from any series) stands much of a chance against invid...

isamudyson · 18-03-2002, 12:01 PM

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Originally posted by sidewinder

i don't really think that a VF(any VF from any series) stands much of a chance against invid...

Why is that?

sidewinder · 18-03-2002, 01:46 PM

simply because they weren't made specifically to fight the invid...also, the earlier models are too cumbersome (battloid mode)...

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Considering the VF's can carry reactionary weapons nicknamed 'planet busters' where 1 missile can destroy a whole Zentradi fleet kilometers in formation, VAF's don't stand much of a chance.

just because a mac 2 can destroy a large zentradi ship, doesn't mean that in a one on one fight, the mac 2 will win.....it will very easily loose....

death · 18-03-2002, 08:41 PM

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Originally posted by sidewinder
well, what i'm referring to is the 70 missiles of the VAF-6 series vs the VF's of SDF Macross....but i believe that an alpha can kick any valkyrie's arse....

When its carrying only 6 it means those are the Anti ship Nucks man.

Normal load out it 30 missles instead of those.

downgrade · 19-03-2002, 02:49 AM

well, even considering that i was unaware of all this legal muckity-muck afoot, i mean, i *knew* that this would never happen. just a nice little fanboy daydream i had one day, and i wanted to see if anyone else would dig it.

now, back to the question at hand: is anyone besides me even remotely interested in this idea? come on, you guys know it *could* be very *very* cool. yes, it is a pointless question, but christ, this is the internet.

//dg.

Valkyrie · 19-03-2002, 06:28 AM

Downgrade, I wasn't criticising your 'dreams'- I was stating that any rumors from RT fans about new series are definitely not going to happen because of the legal battle between Mig West and HG.

As for sidewinder, your last post about Invid is untrue if you compare what the Protodevlin can do to them by merely being in their presence. Invid would lose hands down due to spiritia attacks alone. As for your Macross 2 jargon, that's not even accurate. I was talking about post Macross 1 weaponry used by the UNSPACY can use take out Invid by themselves. 1 of these missiles can take out fleets not ships kilometers in distance. They're called 'planet busters' due to the fact that one can destroy a small planet easily. Invid wouldn't be able to take that onslaught with UNSPACY's ability to fold and strike at such speed and versatility combined with their numbers.

Quote: "and considering that the VAF was the replacement for the VF in robotech..... "

Call signs are nothing in reality, just because I call someone small doesn't mean he/she is. Take Robin Hood's Little John for example. Just because the VAF replaced a VF-1 doesn't mean a VF-11 won't be able to take on a VAF.

sidewinder · 19-03-2002, 11:10 AM

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Originally posted by death

When its carrying only 6 it means those are the Anti ship Nucks man.

Normal load out it 30 missles instead of those.

bah, whatever....it's been too long......

isamudyson · 20-03-2002, 02:49 AM

When the Valks carry the big long range missles, they usually have the fast packs to carry more short range missles.