90% of anime is crap

[Garv]

Originally posted by Sigurd Fatima
I suppose 30%+ could be crap, but I wouldn't really know since I often follow the crowd when it comes to anime issues (it's to much of a risk for my small wallet). I know with videogames... much are rejected. I'd say no more than 65% of all of the videogames created in Japan are actually translated and move on to big and better sales in the world. Unfortuanately some get stuck even though they are very good like Seiken Densetsu 3, Front Mission, and Star Ocean (my fav. examples ). I'm sure its this way with anime too, no?

65% is way too high. If you look at a complete list of SNES games (such as the SNES emulator and compatability list) you may be surprised that a small minority of them are actually translated. I've tried a lot of them, and yes, about 90% of those games are also crap (those pachin'ko games are especially crappy).

[Svietnam]

Originally posted by Garv
When Theodore Sturgeon was asked,"Don't you think 90% of science fiction is crap?" Sturgeon's Law: "90% of EVERYTHING is crap." So this must mean 90% of anime is crap too, but you are just not aware that you are watching it.

hahaha...

That has the be the funniest 'rule' I have heard in a long time. You can apply it to almost anything, making it so general, hypocritical, and almost useless. Best used for comic moments or times you want to to start a riot.

I'm going to take this thread with a grain of salt, but I'm still going to render some thoughts of my own. What was the purpose of this thread? Clearly this is an anime board with anime fans. Making a thread saying '90% of anime is crap' will cause a great uproar. I understand that some people have a right to their opinions but expressing it in a way or place that will cause a riot is not a good thing to do.

[Foxxe]

That's why I just watch the other 10%.

[Maccy99]

I don't understand what the big deal is. I'm as big a fan of anime as everyone else but the fact remains I haven't SEEN HALF of all the animes that are in Japan, only the good ones come here. I'm going by what I know about entertainment, which is that most of it is unimaginative crap. I don't see why this should be wrong, anime is just another form of entertainment, why should it follow a different pattern? There's no need to be offended by this thread. It's obvious he/she's not attacking anime or anime fans.

As for someone's comment about vast majority still being opinions. I say that's a weak argument. It's not that the minorities opinions aren't important it's just that they become more insignificant with regard to opinions. Yes, people that like all the cheap talk shows are out there, but where? And who cares except for them, since they're so small. It's like making a law in a democracy. The majority wins. It doesn't make the minorities opinions about what should have been a law earlier unimportant it just means that the majorities opinions are the law(as long as they themselves don't violate the law of course.)

[Westlo]

I disagree with only the good stuff comes here

Lots of good anime hasn't been licensed (and i'm not talking about shows that have aired in the last 6 months) such as Argento Soma, Inifinte Ryvius, Detective Conan (7th movie is about to come up and who knows how many episodes) and many more

And theirs lots of titles that have came out in america that would be classified as crap.

Were not getting more titles licensed recently because this latest batch of anime is good, its because theirs more fans and the chances of them releasing more titles means more money in the eyes of the anime companies

[Project Akira]

For those wondering what 90% is crap, that's all opinion. I may not like a series like Vandread or Pilot Candidate but there are plenty here that do. It all depends on the tastes and sensibilities of the veiwer to discern what is good and what isn't.

[Garv]

Originally posted by Svietnam


I'm going to take this thread with a grain of salt, but I'm still going to render some thoughts of my own. What was the purpose of this thread? Clearly this is an anime board with anime fans. Making a thread saying '90% of anime is crap' will cause a great uproar. I understand that some people have a right to their opinions but expressing it in a way or place that will cause a riot is not a good thing to do.

I started this thread because almost everyone seems to think that the majority of anime produced is quintessence when it is clearly not. You think that just because anime is foreign and exotic makes it better than domestically produced animation. There was also a thread or article on this board that stated the Japanese audience isn't as enthusiastic about watching anime compared to their foreign counterparts. Maybe because most of what the Japanese see is crap, but they don't have pirate subbers or localization companies to filter them out.

Even if I enjoy something, it can still be crap. Love Hina is an eample of this. LH has a very shallow storline and rips off the popularity and ideas from Tokimemo and other bishoujo games. Does not seem very creative to me. BTW, he did talk about this a bit in LH volume Zero.

[Maccy99]

Originally posted by Project Akira
For those wondering what 90% is crap, that's all opinion. I may not like a series like Vandread or Pilot Candidate but there are plenty here that do. It all depends on the tastes and sensibilities of the veiwer to discern what is good and what isn't.

I get so sick of this to each their own argument. Crap is crap, period. We're talking about entertainment, people get tired of seeing the same thing over and over, so what's not original is usually crap. Crap is crap, you can't define it but you know it when you see it. This is such a copout argument from my perspective and it really doesn't go against what he said. I hate Eva, but no it's not crap. I hate lord of the rings, but no it's not crap. Crap is crap.

Originally posted by Westlo
I disagree with only the good stuff comes here

Lots of good anime hasn't been licensed (and i'm not talking about shows that have aired in the last 6 months) such as Argento Soma, Inifinte Ryvius, Detective Conan (7th movie is about to come up and who knows how many episodes) and many more

And theirs lots of titles that have came out in america that would be classified as crap.

Were not getting more titles licensed recently because this latest batch of anime is good, its because theirs more fans and the chances of them releasing more titles means more money in the eyes of the anime companies

OK, you disagree? No offense but it doesn't really matter. You ask any executive of an anime company and they will tell you that they only bring over things that were succesful through fansubs or japanese tv.

I don't mean to sound aggressive or offend anyone but I don't see where all the contention comes from. I guess I'm just kind of confused. It's kind of obvious to me, it's not a profound statement by any stretch of the imagination and I can't see how it really affects the anime I watch because, like I said, we only see a very small percentage and what we see is hand picked because of it's success. Plus, crap is crap, simple as that. Crap is what 90% of people wouldn't touch with a ten foot pole. And anime isn't perfect. Yeah, there's "bad" and "subjective crap", but when talking about the real crap, I think we all know what it is.

[Steathassasn]

i wouldnt say 90% of it is crap..oh no..never that

i would say 85% or the ones with really bad dubbing ..those are the crapy ones you have to watch out for

true..i love anime..but there are just some that just..well ..suck for lack of a better word

i dont want to offend anyone ..and rember people ..dont get worked up in here..these threads are for expressing opinons ..dont put others down or flame because their opions dont match up with yours

i like diversity...dont you ?

: puts nuke in honda cvic :: ha...lets see them top this

[Project Akira]

Originally posted by Maccy99
I get so sick of this to each their own argument. Crap is crap, period. We're talking about entertainment, people get tired of seeing the same thing over and over, so what's not original is usually crap. Crap is crap, you can't define it but you know it when you see it. This is such a copout argument from my perspective and it really doesn't go against what he said. I hate Eva, but no it's not crap. I hate lord of the rings, but no it's not crap. Crap is crap.

You threw down the gauntlet prepared to get thyself pounced.

You say that the "each his own" arguement is BS and that Crap is Crap? That's BS in itself. Everyone has their own personal opinions, tastes, sensibilities, reactions, and knowledge. People are unable to completely discern crap. While a majority of people may not like something, there is always a minority that does like what you may think is crap. Case in point, the film Batman and Robin. The large majority of individuals believe that this is the worst film ever made. However there is a small minority (and it scares me there is) that actually enjoy this film which can be found on the box. My own personal experience shows that this isn't a copout because I see series such as Gunsmith Cats and Outlaw Star as utter and total crap however there are people who like these shows. So before you go typing sit down, think for a minute, and realize that the perspectives that people have are various and are never the same ^_^

[Steathassasn]

well put Akira ...well put

embrace the crap..

[Steathassasn]

crap...oh they mean hentai...

ok now i get it

[Project Akira]

Originally posted by Steathassasn
crap...oh they mean hentai...

Hentai isn't crap it's visual exploitation of women in demeaning ways so that males can oogle over women that they would never have the chance of "scoring" with in real life.

[Steathassasn]

dude..i was kidding..:: points to laughing face :: relax man ..here

have some sake

[Project Akira]

Forgot to put my own smilie. Hentai entertains people though to be honest I get nothing from watching it ^_^;;;