90% of anime is crap

[Steathassasn]

that it does...it enteretains many men..as well as a few females that i know off...all and all its entertainment ..you can either watch it or..burn it : D

[Maccy99]

Originally posted by Project Akira
You threw down the gauntlet prepared to get thyself pounced.

You say that the "each his own" arguement is BS and that Crap is Crap? That's BS in itself. Everyone has their own personal opinions, tastes, sensibilities, reactions, and knowledge. People are unable to completely discern crap. While a majority of people may not like something, there is always a minority that does like what you may think is crap. Case in point, the film Batman and Robin. The large majority of individuals believe that this is the worst film ever made. However there is a small minority (and it scares me there is) that actually enjoy this film which can be found on the box. My own personal experience shows that this isn't a copout because I see series such as Gunsmith Cats and Outlaw Star as utter and total crap however there are people who like these shows. So before you go typing sit down, think for a minute, and realize that the perspectives that people have are various and are never the same ^_^

If you want to say I through down the gauntlet that's fine with me. If you really want to, let's go at it.

Crap, is crap. I NEVER said that EVERYONE would agree what crap is. I said pretty much everyone. There's a big difference. Yes, there are always different opinions but there comes a point where they become insignificant. Not worth mentioning. Not because the mean less, but because there's just not enough. I'm going by majority opinions here. And yes, the to each his own argument is ALWAYS BS that try's to skirt topics. There are certain things that can be said in this world. They are not absolutes, but they're close enough to not have to mention the exceptions. I KNOW people have different opinions. I never said they didn't, before YOU type, don't put words in my mouth. Crap is crap, crap is poorly made. They opposite of well made. Most things are NOT well made. Yes, some may like those poorly made things, but they are a VERY small minority not worth mentioning IN REGARDS TO ENTERTAINMENT. Everyone has their own opinions, blah blah blah. Yes, of course, obvious, but MOST people don't like things that are INHERENTLY unoriginal, wanna-be money makers, or extremely cheap, or with a bad story. I think it's not abusive to say that at all. And, I don't think it's abusive to say that at all. The vast majority of animes probably aren't that good because the vast majority of writers and companies either aren't that good or don't have enough money to make something mediocre, let alone truly great. Now, when I say crap I mean compared to what we get here in the US. What other perspective am I supposed to use, what other perspective COULD I use? Statements like this ARE subjective, but not in the sense you're advocating. That's an insignificant point and it tries to skirt the question that this thread proposes, crap is crap. I'm willing to argue it of course, but IMHO, that argument is serious BS in any argument.

OH, and I'm not yelling, just interpret the caps as bolds or something, it just takes less time. I use caps as emphasis.

[Project Akira]

Originally posted by Maccy99
If you want to say I through down the gauntlet that's fine with me. If you really want to, let's go at it.

I could hug you! But I won't because I'm lazy Seriously though it about time we had an actual discussion here!

Originally posted by Maccy99
Crap, is crap. I NEVER said that EVERYONE would agree what crap is. I said pretty much everyone.

That you did and that is true.

Originally posted by Maccy99
There's a big difference. Yes, there are always different opinions but there comes a point where they become insignificant. Not worth mentioning. Not because the mean less, but because there's just not enough. I'm going by majority opinions here.

You did not say that last time and I don't think you took that into effect either.

Originally posted by Maccy99
And yes, the to each his own argument is ALWAYS BS that try's to skirt topics. There are certain things that can be said in this world. They are not absolutes, but they're close enough to not have to mention the exceptions.

But it is necessary I believe in an argument that you should mention them otherwise you come across as someone that is just make large generalizations that don't help arguments.

Originally posted by Maccy99
I KNOW people have different opinions. I never said they didn't, before YOU type, don't put words in my mouth. Crap is crap, crap is poorly made. They opposite of well made. Most things are NOT well made. Yes, some may like those poorly made things, but they are a VERY small minority not worth mentioning IN REGARDS TO ENTERTAINMENT. Everyone has their own opinions, blah blah blah. Yes, of course, obvious, but MOST people don't like things that are INHERENTLY unoriginal, wanna-be money makers, or extremely cheap, or with a bad story. I think it's not abusive to say that at all. And, I don't think it's abusive to say that at all.

No it isn't abusive to say that something is bad. However, reviews are all subjective and therefore subject to being of opinion.

Originally posted by Maccy99
The vast majority of animes probably aren't that good because the vast majority of writers and companies either aren't that good or don't have enough money to make something mediocre, let alone truly great.

Actually I could make a case for studios that do have a lot of money not bothering to spend time on a series.

Originally posted by Maccy99
Now, when I say crap I mean compared to what we get here in the US. What other perspective am I supposed to use, what other perspective COULD I use? Statements like this ARE subjective, but not in the sense you're advocating. That's an insignificant point and it tries to skirt the question that this thread proposes, crap is crap. I'm willing to argue it of course, but IMHO, that argument is serious BS in any argument.

True you bring your own perspective to any arguement. Still to say that perspective is BS and a copout is untrue because that is how the world works. It's not skirting at all, rather its addressing a basic truth that everyone is going to have the same opinion as to what is good or not.

The only way crap is crap is in the case of what you put down your toilet, that is crap!

Originally posted by Maccy99
I don't understand what the big deal is. I'm as big a fan of anime as everyone else but the fact remains I haven't SEEN HALF of all the animes that are in Japan, only the good ones come here. I'm going by what I know about entertainment, which is that most of it is unimaginative crap. I don't see why this should be wrong, anime is just another form of entertainment, why should it follow a different pattern? There's no need to be offended by this thread. It's obvious he/she's not attacking anime or anime fans.

As for someone's comment about vast majority still being opinions. I say that's a weak argument. It's not that the minorities opinions aren't important it's just that they become more insignificant with regard to opinions. Yes, people that like all the cheap talk shows are out there, but where? And who cares except for them, since they're so small. It's like making a law in a democracy. The majority wins. It doesn't make the minorities opinions about what should have been a law earlier unimportant it just means that the majorities opinions are the law(as long as they themselves don't violate the law of course.)

oh no daon't take it the wrong way, i'm just saying nothing can be considered crap, because there are people who like it. it doesn't matter who "wins" like the majority. i'm arguing about everything, not just anime okay?