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I have noticed an iteresting Phenomenon. The people I know that have seen both perfect Blue and Lain seem to be affected by them differently depending on the order in which they saw them. What I mean is, the people I know that saw Perfect Blue first were really freaked out by it, then they saw Lain and were not at all fazed. If they say Lain, they were really affected by IT and then not affected as much by Perfect Blue. Waht do those of you that have seen both think? My brothers for example saw Blue first, and it freaked them out, and then they saw Lain and though it was weird, but not as trippy. However, I saw Lain first and was really freaked, but Perfect Blue didn't affect me as much. So comments? Thoughts?
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Old 15-10-2000, 05:29 PM   #2   [permalink]
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Interesting, they both are freaky! ^^ Both were great animes.
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hmmm... interesting theory. i say Serial Experiments LAIN first. it's now my favouite anime of all time. Perfect Blue? hmmmm... LAIN didn't freak me out at all... the idea development was just truly amazing... twists and all. Perfect Blue was fucked up... well, ctually i was fucked up. when i first watched it i was suffering from MAJOR sleep deprivation, and i kept falling asleep. and i would ONLY wake up right when Mima would wake up, and then i'd get schitzo and then fall asleep and then wake up right when Mima would wake up and then get schitzo and then fall asleep and then wake up right when Mima would wake up and then get schitzo and then fall asleep and then wake up right when Mima would wake up and then get schitzo and then fall asleep and then wake up right when Mima would wake up and then get schitzo and then fall asleep and then wake up right when Mima would wake up and then get schitzo and then fall asleep and then wake up right when Mima would wake up and then get schitzo and then fall asleep and then wake up right when Mima would wake up and then get schitzo and then fall asleep and then wake up right when Mima would wake up and then get schitzo and then fall asleep and then wake up right when 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Perfect Blue had the potential, LAIN had the goods. adieu.
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that's exactly how it happened to... it seemed like the movie was running for over 6hrs
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hmm...i read all of that ..neone else spot pattern?

Im sure theres one in there, just cant spot it atm
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A friend of mine saw PB and said it was a superb psychological thriller. When I saw it, I liked it, but I wouldn't call it superb...in fact it really wasn't that thrilling. I've seen 80's B-movies with a similiar plot vehicle (dream within a dream, no reality), but they obviously weren't as well producted and directed as PB. The ending could have been more surprising. This is one of those "don't take your eyes off" animes cuz you'll get lost quickly. I haven't seen Lain yet, but I've heard nothing but good about it...HHavok seems to enjoy it
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I agree that Lain was really freaky but I didn't really think Perfect Blue was as good as everyone made it out to be. There are many more anime movies which are more psychological than PB.
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I agree. Before I saw Blue, people were like, "Oh it's so horrible! The rape scene is so disturbing blah blah blah..." But I didn't feel that that scene was disturbing, since I'm an actress and I've had to do worse things on stage. But it was goo, and quite freaky. I love the song Ai no Tenchi. But Lain is better I think.
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What have you done that's worse than a rape scene? *shudder*
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I much preferred Lain over Perfect Blue. Strangely enough, Lain was much more realistic, apart from the computer she built..

Lain was also better animated (which doesn't count for much, but it still makes it nice). And at least the plot in Lain was explained at the end, and we saw almost exactly what was going on, as opposed to Perfect Blue, which just went freaky almost all the time and never really stopped.
But it is true that if you see Lain first then perfect blue isn't that distrubing. At the local anime society (www.anime.com.au/utas) we had a lain marathon afternoon, in which we watched the entire series almost non-stop for over four hours. Well worth it, and that's about the only way to watch things like that, in my opinion. But that got me hooked on Lain, so I'm getting my own copy and still have the theme song and that goddamn "Present Day... Present Time" thing stuck in my head.
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yeah lain is, to me better than perfect blue <- i saw it first, lain had a cool story and makes u think if stuff like the Wired can exist or not.

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What have you done that's worse than a rape scene? *shudder*
Lots of stuff. A rape scene is not hard to do if you know the person that you're doing it with and you are psychologically aware that you're acting.
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I much preferred Lain over Perfect Blue. Strangely enough, Lain was much more realistic, apart from the computer she built..

Lain was also better animated (which doesn't count for much, but it still makes it nice). And at least the plot in Lain was explained at the end, and we saw almost exactly what was going on, as opposed to Perfect Blue, which just went freaky almost all the time and never really stopped.
But it is true that if you see Lain first then perfect blue isn't that distrubing. At the local anime society (www.anime.com.au/utas) we had a lain marathon afternoon, in which we watched the entire series almost non-stop for over four hours. Well worth it, and that's about the only way to watch things like that, in my opinion. But that got me hooked on Lain, so I'm getting my own copy and still have the theme song and that goddamn "Present Day... Present Time" thing stuck in my head.



yes, the most important thing in the entire world with series like Serial Experiments LAIN and NEon Genesis : Evangelion is to watch it ALL at once in consecutive order! they are the most enjoyable AND you get the most out of them mentally, emotionaly, and suspensfully!

also, i must say that LAIN is simply my favourite anime! it took me three times watching it all the way thru, but i realized that i love it oh so much {it's dificult for me to admit that i -barely- like it more than Eva}... but yes, go see LAIN NOW if you haven't.


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I agree that Lain was really freaky but I didn't really think Perfect Blue was as good as everyone made it out to be. There are many more anime movies which are more psychological than PB.




What anime are those? PLEASE DO SHARE!!! i've been searching for years for anime that psychologically compare to LAIN and Eva {even one step higher than Perfect Blue is fine!^^} please please please let me know!!!

but yeah... Perfect Blue's ending pissed me off. the movie just promised so much and then the ending gave so little.



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Lots of stuff. A rape scene is not hard to do if you know the person that you're doing it with and you are psychologically aware that you're acting.



very true. and it takes a talented actress/actor to do so proffessionally and believably. Asuza_chan... do you act in theatre, film, or both? i am very curious, for i am a screenwriter and i am studying film {soon to be director} i am very interested in filming an independent film soon... please... speak with me.


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very true. and it takes a talented actress/actor to do so proffessionally and believably. Asuza_chan... do you act in theatre, film, or both? i am very curious, for i am a screenwriter and i am studying film {soon to be director} i am very interested in filming an independent film soon... please... speak with me.


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I've only done theater, and never on a professional level, just semi-pro and some college stuff. But I do plan on giving the professional thing a shot. So you do indies huh? I have a friend that's into that too, except right now he's working in Korea. What kinds of things are you working on?
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