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Old 22-06-2002, 11:29 PM   #16   [permalink]
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such a stupid list!!! i'm not sure if i even wanna know about the male part ~_~

obviously, the list is only made toward mainstream audience, popular anime! i don't think i see any fansubed anime on there...

if yuki from gravi didn't make the list of sexy men, then i'll know they only care about pleasing the reader, putting the chara in the anime that they know is most popular!
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Old 23-06-2002, 01:18 AM   #17   [permalink]
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Ok, lots of stuff to say here guys:

1) RE: In the tv series Cammy takes her top off, that explains why shes on the list.


It certainly does. Hmmm..curious, I find myself suddenly intrigued. Was she still wearing something underneath (I.E. could you post the pic on Animeboards?)

2) The list was compiled by the staff of Animerica, not teenagers. No information about this event was given in Animerica until the issue right before it, which I looked through and the only mention of it was in the "In our next issue" section of the last page.

3) As for definitions of Sexy vs. Cute, both words were used rather rarely, and neither 100 percent over the other. The headline may be "Sex Cels," but its subtitle is "A contemplation of the Sensual appeal of Anime characters." In addition, a small section at the beginning describes the editors definition of sexy when talking about fictional characters. Half of the definition attributed to the fact that Anime is art, and art is (or at least can be) attractive. The second is that the character themself should, by all logical reasoning, have the potential to be sensual if they have the potential to be viewed as icons. The best way to understand this is to read the article in its entirety. What I gave you was the list, which accounted for 1 of 8 pages.

4) And as for certain series being "overrepresented." I give you this quote from another one of the pages:

"When it came right down to the final choices, we realized just how big a job it was. What were we thinking to even undertake this? Even if we strictly limited ourselves to characters from Manga and anime available in the U.S. (Which we did end up doing more or less, simply because it cut down on the numbers to choose from and ensured at least *most* of our readership would know who we were talking about), that's still a long, long list."

And then this:

"Ultimately, though, we probably shouldn't have worried so much. After all, any list of favorites, is, by definition, a case of personal preferences. So if your favorite wasn't duly represented, don't get mad! Write in and let us known which characters you think are pinup material."


These people don't think their opinions are the end-all truth of the universe, and its obvious that what they used to judge the characters was different from what you and I may have done.

Personally, I would have allowed characters like Faye and Mai to be on the list. Rio too. But not Nagha.

I would have put Yuri on the list, but not Kei. There is little or no purpose in arguing about the list, because it is what it is, and it was quite obvious that there would be disagreements.

I am personally happy with over 50 percent of the list. 25 percent of the list come from series that I have not seen, so that's no problem. The only one I had a big problem with was Miyu. Saturn, if its true that she was 14 at one point in time during Sailor Moon, is good (as that is the legal age in Japan).

And yes, I would have liked to see other characters from series represented alongside their comrades. I would like Lina or Martina to appear alongside Nagha. I would like Grandis to appear with Nadia. I would like Kiyone is Mihoshi is there. I would like Dita if Meia and Jura are there.

But lets face it folkes, there are a lot of anime girls out there, and this list was only 100. Even restricting yourself to personal opinion, this would be a hard thing to do.

5) Finally, since people wanted it, the male list:

Vampire Hunter D
Vegeta (DBZ)
Leader Desslok (Starblazers)
Dark Schneider (Bastard)
Trunks (DBZ)
Roy Fokker (Macross)
Dilandau Albatou (Escaflowne: Odd considering....well..you know..)
Condor Joe (Gatchaman)
Hotohori (Fushigi Yugi)
Geese Howard (Fatal Fury)
Kaji (Evangelion)
Fuma (X the Movie)
Yu Onimae (Spriggan)
Ryoma Nagare (Getter Robo: Armageddon)
Roger Smith (The Big O)
Captain Harlock (GE999, etc)
Spike Spiegel (Cowboy Bebop)
Freeman (Crying Freeman)
Meier LInk (Vampire Hunter D)
Heero Yui (Gundam W)
Tamahome (Fushigi Yugi)
Ashram (Record of Lodoss War)
Kenshin
Momoru (Blue Seed)
Kamui (X the movie)
Allen Shezar (Escaflowne)
Char Aznable (MS Gundam CC)
Treize Khushrenada (Gundam W)
Inu-Yasha
Chang Wufei (Gundam W)
Ryoga (Ranma 1/2)
Tasuki (Fushigi Yugi)
Carrot (Sorcerer Hunters)
Kaworu (Evangelion)
Chief Chujo (Giant Robot)
Aburatsubo Ayanoiyo (Magic users club)
Seiji (Ronin Warriors)
Duke Togo (Golgo 13)
Guts (Berserk)
Captain Goto (Patlabor)
Kiley (Peach Girl)
Genya (Giant Robo)
Terry Bogard (Fatal Fury)
Ryo Saeba (City Hunter)
Rei (Fist of the NOrth star)
Tokai (Sanctuary)
Tuxedo Kamen (Sailor Moon)
Duo Maxwell (Gundam W)
Folken Lakur de Fanel (Escaflowne)
Ashitaka (Princess Mononoke)
Derek Wildstar (Star Blazers)
Toya (Ceres: Celestial legend)
Van Slanzar de Fanel (Escaflowne)
Legato Bluesummers (Trigun)
Cobra (Space Adventure Cobra)
Goku (DBZ)
Zechs Merquise (Gundam W)
Sessho-Maru (Inu-Yasha)
Manji (Blade of the Immortal)
Ryu (Street Fighter II)
Taki (Wicked City)
Trowa Barton (Gundam W)
Vash the Stampede (Trigun)
Andy Bogard (Fatal Fury)
Ken (Street Fighter II)
Anavel Gato (Gundam 0083)
Racer X (Speed Racer)
Devilman (Devilman)
Kenshiro (Fist of North)
Jubei (ninja scroll)
Jo-Jo (JJBig Adventure)
Hiei (Yu Yu Hakusho)
Onizuka (GTO)
Kurama (YYH)
Ryo (Ronin Warriors)
Kyosuke (KOR)
Terry Sanders Jr. (Gundam 08th MS team)
Ogre Slayer (Ogre Slayer)
Jiro Yamada (Nadesico)
Yota (Video Girl Ai)
Larva (Vampire Princess Miyu)
Parn (Record of Lodoss War)
Itto Ogami (Lone Wolf and Cub)
Takezo (Vagabond)
Jet Black (CB)
Mark Venture (Star Blazers)
Rick Hunter (Macross)
Silvermask (legend of the GH)
Leon (Bubblegum Crisis)
Kaneda (Akira)
Masato (Zeorymer)
Gawl (Generator Gawl)
Yuhi (Ceres: Celestial Legend)
Koh Uraki (Gundam 0083)
Ross Sylibus (Armitage the THird)
Ranma (Ranma 1/2)
Picollo (DBZ)
Yuji (Blue Gender)
Captain Nemo (Nadia)
Count D (Pet Shop of Horrors)

So for those wondering about certain females in the babes list, you now know, for a fact, that just physical appearance was not used to determine who got on the list, as Piccolo's inclusion shows.
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Old 23-06-2002, 01:25 AM   #18   [permalink]
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Geese, Terry and Andy from Fatal Fury . . uhh Terry yeah but Andy and Geese uhh i dont think so . .

Wheres Eiri from Gravitation, why isnt he on the list,
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Old 23-06-2002, 01:35 AM   #19   [permalink]
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O.K, Momomi (Mezzo Forte) is on there but where's Mikura? She was wayyy hotter than Momomi.
Tomoe from the Kenshin OVAs should have been on there too.


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Old 23-06-2002, 02:37 PM   #20   [permalink]
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Piccolo, Jet, and Geise!!? What's wrong with these people!!?

And where are X and Zero? God knows Capcom fangirls make enough frikking yaoi fanfics and doujinshi's for them to show up, even if they're not in an anime...
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Old 23-06-2002, 03:32 PM   #21   [permalink]
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As long as Android 18 is on the list, I have no complaints

**was ready to start a huge post about the injustice that had been done**
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Old 23-06-2002, 05:43 PM   #22   [permalink]
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But you see, there is a point to arguing about the list. It's not like we're doing so out of malice. It's just discussion, and it's kind of fun.

Now, the male list...*eye twitches* This makes me think that maybe we should just make our own lists, like have everyone contribute one name to each list or something. I don't know. Animerica sure does have weird taste.

*shakes head at the inclusion of FotNS's Kenshiro but omission of any Weiss guys*
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Old 23-06-2002, 06:39 PM   #23   [permalink]
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*looks at the girl list*

What?! No Belldandy nor Peorth?! And where's Felicia? C'mon! She's only covered by fur in distinctive places!
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Old 23-06-2002, 10:11 PM   #24   [permalink]
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*looks at the girl list*

What?! No Belldandy nor Peorth?! And where's Felicia? C'mon! She's only covered by fur in distinctive places!
Booyaka. Actually, Belldandy is on the list. She was the first one I looked for. Here's a rough idea of where she is (so in case you see any of these other names, you're close):

Cammy (Street Fighter II)
nene (Bubblegum Crisis: 2040)
Rio (Burn Up W)
Dorothy Catalonia (Gundam W)
April (Sol Bianca)
Belldandy (OMG)
Motoko Kusunagi (Ghost in the Shell)
Kiddy Phenil (Silent Mobius)
Sally Po (Gundam Wing)
Shampoo (Ranma 1/2)
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Awww! *points to avatar* Cutie Miyu made the list! ^^
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Old 23-06-2002, 10:35 PM   #26   [permalink]
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*jumps up and down* I double checked my Animerica issue and Relena wasn't on the list! WAIIIIII! ^_^

Yippie! So even Animerica thinks Relena ain't cute! yeah!
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Old 23-06-2002, 10:41 PM   #27   [permalink]
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Piccolo, Jet, and Geise!!? What's wrong with these people!!?

And where are X and Zero? God knows Capcom fangirls make enough frikking yaoi fanfics and doujinshi's for them to show up, even if they're not in an anime...
Piccolo is a cutie. Jet's is to. (have no clue who geise is)

Yes! X and Zero shoulda made the list! *grrrr* I wrote plenty a shonen-ai fanfics and they had better of made some mistake!




*is watching DBZ at the moment and felt like doing that*

hhaaaaahha! Gogeta is beating up Majin Buu and he's making the funniest faces! *gogeta is in the little ball majin buu trapped him in*

haha!


(hmmm that reminds me! Majin Buu's final form should of made the list! AND Gogeta! God to Vegeta-baby and Goku make a cute joined form!)
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Old 23-06-2002, 11:02 PM   #28   [permalink]
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Wheres Eiri from Gravitation, why isnt he on the list,
I don't know..I don't know..*clings to Eiri* I've yet to get my hands on Gravitation..but I'm trying..all for that bishounen's sake!

Yep, nobody from Shoujo Kakumei Utena..yep..
Nobody from Karekano...

......



heh..actually they got most of my more "mainstream" bishounen on there.

i.e.-Folken-samma! Allen Shezar,Mamoru, Vash,Hotohori, how come Makoto from El-Hazard isn't there..?
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Piccolo is a cutie. Jet's is to. (have no clue who geise is)
Piccolo's bald, has antenna, pointy ears and teeth, green, and has a very nasty disposition. What part of that is cute? Also, Jet is bald, pale, around 38, and has a metal arm. I don't think he's a catch either. Of course, I'm neither gay, no a fangirl, so I'm probably not the one to make that call. As for Geise, I probably spelt his name wrong. He's the guy Terry and Andy Bogard fight in Fatal Fury.

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Yes! X and Zero shoulda made the list! *grrrr* I wrote plenty a shonen-ai fanfics and they had better of made some mistake!
You see? This is what I'm talking about!! It doesn't matter that they aren't gay, it matters that a bazillion fangirls think they're gay, so automatically, they should be in the list somewhere...
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Old 24-06-2002, 05:57 PM   #30   [permalink]
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I don't know if Zero was ever in an actual anime. X, as far I know, only made a brief appearance in a Megaman animated series.

And whether they were gay or whether people wanted them to be gay had no effect on getting on this list. Not everyone thinks that way you know. I'm a guy and personally I find nothing hot about Lesbians.
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