Brolly power level. - Page 2

Spider66SIC · 04-02-2003, 12:22 PM

He did, Ill find it.

Mad Hellian · 04-02-2003, 12:44 PM

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Originally posted by raistlin625
i could have sworn he said ascended somewhere in his super saiyan speech. oh well.........meh

English dub is unpredictable man you probably mean when he said "I must ascend past a Super Saiyan."

SSJ Legion · 05-02-2003, 11:43 PM

Hey, well, here's my theory:

I personally don't think Brolli was as strong or stronger than SSJ3, I don't think his power even reached that of a SSJ2. Since none of the Z fighters ever are stronger than SSJ when they fight Brolli, I have a hard time believing that they could ever beat Brolli if he was that strong. I think Brolli reached ultra super saiyan, but even if that level slows u down, it can still be faster than a regular SSJ.

Mad Hellian · 06-02-2003, 11:49 AM

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Originally posted by SSJ Legion
Hey, well, here's my theory:

I personally don't think Brolli was as strong or stronger than SSJ3, I don't think his power even reached that of a SSJ2. Since none of the Z fighters ever are stronger than SSJ when they fight Brolli, I have a hard time believing that they could ever beat Brolli if he was that strong. I think Brolli reached ultra super saiyan, but even if that level slows u down, it can still be faster than a regular SSJ.

Maybe, maybe, we'll never really know.

SSJ Legion · 06-02-2003, 03:31 PM

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Originally posted by Mad Hellian
Maybe, maybe, we'll never really know.

hehe, yea... that's why it sometimes a bit frustrating with DBZ, I just wish sometimes (only sometimes) we could get official power level readings on them... but oh well, its always fun to discuss

Mad Hellian · 06-02-2003, 03:39 PM

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Originally posted by SSJ Legion
hehe, yea... that's why it sometimes a bit frustrating with DBZ, I just wish sometimes (only sometimes) we could get official power level readings on them... but oh well, its always fun to discuss

So do I Legion, so do I. As fun as it, it can also be quite frustrating my reason though as probably everyone else's for thinking Brolli so powerful in ASSj is because of the fact everyone gave Goku their Ki so he could become stronger in SSj, I mean think about it though, I doubt a Double Masenko from SSj Gohan and Trunks to Perfect Cell wouldn't of did anything as to Brolli it didn't do anything.

Spider66SIC · 06-02-2003, 09:17 PM

Do you think any of these moves would have beat him???

Akumaitokosen/Akumaito Kousen: This is a special energy wave designed explicitly for a quick kill of one's opponent. When the wave strikes its victim, the evil in his heart expands and causes his heart to explode. Of course, the victim then must have some evil in his heart for the attack to work.

Bakuhatsuha: By raising two fingers, the user of this attack can create a large explosion that will totally decimate the surrounding area or the ground under an opponent.

Bakurikimaha: An ultimate ki attack, this is is an extremely powerful ki blast shot from one hand, the other gripping the shooting hand's wrist for support. Barrier: This purely defensive technique forms a Ki-shield around the body that protects the user from Ki or similar attacks. There are two forms of this maneuver. One is a spherical shield that surrounds the body, the other is more of a coating of the body.

Mad Hellian · 07-02-2003, 07:09 AM

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Originally posted by Spider66SIC
Do you think any of these moves would have beat him???

Akumaitokosen: This is a special energy wave designed explicitly for a quick kill of one's opponent. When the wave strikes its victim, the evil in his heart expands and causes his heart to explode. Of course, the victim then must have some evil in his heart for the attack to work.

Bakuhatsuha: By raising two fingers, the user of this attack can create a large explosion that will totally decimate the surrounding area or the ground under an opponent.

Bakurikimaha: An ultimate ki attack, this is is an extremely powerful ki blast shot from one hand, the other gripping the shooting hand's wrist for support. Barrier: This purely defensive technique forms a Ki-shield around the body that protects the user from Ki or similar attacks. There are two forms of this maneuver. One is a spherical shield that surrounds the body, the other is more of a coating of the body.

It depends..if The Devil King(a.k.a Akuman) just did it even though Brolli is as evil as they come, Brolli would most likely outpower it, now if we're looking at maybe Buu or Cell doing it then nope, bye bye Brolli as for the Bakuhatsuha that's a move that was only used by Nappa and Vegeta, after the Namek Saga it was never seen again as far as I remember. Bakruikimaha is Piccolo's first attack on Raditz when they meet, it has no effect on him so it's not gonna do anything to Brolli either. The Barrier isn't unbreakable, Brolli has been the only person so far who has ever made a Barrier that was unbreakable, only it's name is Ki Barrier.

Spider66SIC · 07-02-2003, 10:41 PM

Nice try, but GT has all those moves over again. Come to think of it, even in Z. I'm not going to get too in to it, but Vegeta uses Bakurikimaha when fighting Majin Buu. Bakuhatsuha, what are you thinking of? I think you got something mixed up. But like I said on one of them: "An ultimate ki attack, this is is an extremely powerful ki blast shot from one hand, the other gripping the shooting hand's wrist for support." - That's Bakurikimaha, come on, weak? And who even uses Akumaitokosen? That's the only one I have actually never seen, I have only heard of it. Do you know? Sorry, I'm not trying to be mean Mad Hellian. I understand alot of what you are saying, but where are you getting your info? And remember, things are sometimes different between Jap. and Eng. Dragonball Z.

Wait, Akuman uses Akumaitokosen.

Mad Hellian · 08-02-2003, 02:01 AM

http://www.dragonball-gt.com/unrival...nique/tech.htm
http://www.ultimatedbzinfo.com/attacks.html

Two of the best attacklists out there, though I have no idea what the hell you just said

Spider66SIC · 08-02-2003, 07:42 PM

Sorry, I was drunk. lol, n/m.

Mad Hellian · 08-02-2003, 09:01 PM

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Originally posted by Spider66SIC
Sorry, I was drunk. lol, n/m.

S'ok I've gotten pretty stoned before just never posted on a message board.

Carisman · 09-02-2003, 07:40 PM

I do believe that Brolli, could have easily been in par of SSJ3's power. He had remarkable speed and strength. Which seemed to get more intense as he went along. That only applies to his first movie. The other ones were very dull. We know that Brolli was stronger than SSJ2 because Teenager Gohan used it when trying to save Chibi Goten and Trunks. He tried melting him in lava, which did not work. And Gohan even in his own state could not beat him. Only with the help of Goten and his Father's Spirit was he able to over take him.

Even then, when he was recreated in the lab, he just seemed to be getting weaker as the movies went along. Goten and Trunks at only SSJ1 were able to stand up against him. And in the end with the help of water, which was horrible gay. Was able to take him down for good.

My point out of this is that, in the beginning after his control was broken, he was remarkably strong and fast, with the power to stand against an SSJ3 without interferance of other of course. Now whether he would win or not is hard to say. We all know Goku would probably pull a Genki Dama of course, he has no originality to himself after awhile. Brolli was the best bad guy until his 2nd and 3rd appearance. I'd have to give it to Janemba to take his spot. He was a really amazing villian. If it had not been for a sudden fusion between Vegeta and Goku, all hell would have broken loose. But thats the way it happens in DBZ.

SSJ Legion · 09-02-2003, 09:49 PM

Gohan was not level 2 when he went against Brolli. The reason being is that in the Majin Buu saga, Vegeta stated that Gohan was a lot weaker since fighting Cell (when he was level 2) since Gohan hasn't trained that much. Therefore, in my opinion, he was only level 1 against Brolli.
[I know that the movies don't fit in the timeline of the sagas, but they can be roughly estimated of where they "could" take place, and since Goku was still dead in movie 10, it had to have happened before Majin Buu came and since Gohan wasn't Mystic, that only furthers that point]

I also just can't imagine that in movie 8 where the other Z fighters give their "left over" energy to an already beaten Goku would be able to rival a power as great as a lvl 3 SSJ.

Spider66SIC · 09-02-2003, 10:04 PM

I'll have to take your side on this SSJ Legion. Makes sence. SS3 is obviously powerful, but powerful enough to easily beat Brolly? We don't know, it never happened. But I'm putting my money on SS3 beating the hell out of Brolly. It would be one amazing fight though... Now, the whole Gohan thing was messed up Carisman, check into that. Remember, SS2 has the lightning stuff going around. It was not SS2 Gohan that fought Brolly, I'm possitive.
- Oh, and also, Brolly didn't have speed going on in any way. What makes you say that??? Did he move fast? Don't think so. I can't see Brolly bouncing off any walls any time soon.
remarkable speed ... remarkable speed ....

Oh, why is that so funny .... Go go Brolly!!!