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Old 02-01-2005, 11:56 PM   #1   [permalink]
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1. Sess' mom and opinions etc. She is never mensioned other than being a full youkai.
2.Fluffy. What is it? A pelt,boa, family herloom(sp), armpit hair, a seperate youkai mooching off of sesshoumaru, a huge fluffy pillow? It is not a tail though. I just think its a boa or family herloom becase his dad had one than was split in two.
3. If Sess is unkilliable with tenseiga, why was Inutashio killed if he had it on him?
4. If tenseiga could revive Goshinki(sp) to make toukijin, than why coulnt it save Kagura? Was it the shokai or did it not want to because it did not pulse?
5. Kikyou vs Kagome vs Miroku in spiritual battle.
6.Tesseiga vs Tetsuiaga(sp)
7. Could kazaana suck up Naraku since he created it?
8. If Shippou and Inutashio could hold Tesseiga and are both full youkai then why cant Sesshoumaru? Is it because he is anti human (except Rin), Shippou and Inutashio are both human friendly.
9. Is Sesshoumaru more powerful than Naraku, when he fights him (and Inu) Sesshoumaru doesnt seem to try. He just kind of swings Toukijin not actually hard or anything. Aslo is he tiayoukai?
10. If Inu shot a Kaze no Kizu, Sess countered it with a toukijin attack, Inu countered it with Bakuurua(sp), Sess countered it back at him, then Inu used Kongoushoa to fire back all the other attacks at Sess, would Sess be able to survive with tenseiga? (brain hurts)
11. Toukijin has the power of Sess and Gosjinki(sp)
Tesseiga has the powers of Inutashio, Inu, the enemy, and that Kongoshoa shard tiayoukai. So wouldnt it be stronger than toukijin? But Sess was able to take out kaze no kizu and Bakurrua with Sorriuga(sp) his toukijin attack.
12. Ages with spoilers. In movie 3 The 3rd sword was sealed for 200 years after Inutashios death. Inu was born on the day he died but was dead/asleep for 50 years so isnt he 150? Also Sess was an adult then so he is probable well over 200. Probable 300 or 400 because he looked almost the same then as now and Inu looks like 16 or 17 but is 150.
13. Sesshoumaru could weasily kill inu especially on his human days so why doesnt he is it becase he loves/care for him? On the full moon nights I doubt Kagome, Sango, and Miroku could hurt Sess much he is too fast and smart to just stand and let kazaana get him, can dodge/ catch arrows, and could probable cut Sango's boomerang in half and is immun to her poison bombs. Aslo he has tenseiga to protect him.
14. The final question (for now) is CHEESE CAKE a pie or a cake. (REASONS)
I think its a pie becasue it has crust and "filling" BUT Cake has filling and it is called CHEESE CAKE.

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Old 03-01-2005, 06:38 AM   #2   [permalink]
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Originally Posted by Charlie 2leen
1. Sess' mom and opinions etc. She is never mensioned other than being a full youkai.
2.Fluffy. What is it? A pelt,boa, family herloom(sp), armpit hair, a seperate youkai mooching off of sesshoumaru, a huge fluffy pillow? It is not a tail though. I just think its a boa or family herloom becase his dad had one than was split in two.
3. If Sess is unkilliable with tenseiga, why was Inutashio killed if he had it on him?
4. If tenseiga could revive Goshinki(sp) to make toukijin, than why coulnt it save Kagura? Was it the shokai or did it not want to because it did not pulse?
5. Kikyou vs Kagome vs Miroku in spiritual battle.
6.Tesseiga vs Tetsuiaga(sp)
7. Could kazaana suck up Naraku since he created it?
8. If Shippou and Inutashio could hold Tesseiga and are both full youkai then why cant Sesshoumaru? Is it because he is anti human (except Rin), Shippou and Inutashio are both human friendly.
9. Is Sesshoumaru more powerful than Naraku, when he fights him (and Inu) Sesshoumaru doesnt seem to try. He just kind of swings Toukijin not actually hard or anything. Aslo is he tiayoukai?
10. If Inu shot a Kaze no Kizu, Sess countered it with a toukijin attack, Inu countered it with Bakuurua(sp), Sess countered it back at him, then Inu used Kongoushoa to fire back all the other attacks at Sess, would Sess be able to survive with tenseiga? (brain hurts)
11. Toukijin has the power of Sess and Gosjinki(sp)
Tesseiga has the powers of Inutashio, Inu, the enemy, and that Kongoshoa shard tiayoukai. So wouldnt it be stronger than toukijin? But Sess was able to take out kaze no kizu and Bakurrua with Sorriuga(sp) his toukijin attack.
12. Ages with spoilers. In movie 3 The 3rd sword was sealed for 200 years after Inutashios death. Inu was born on the day he died but was dead/asleep for 50 years so isnt he 150? Also Sess was an adult then so he is probable well over 200. Probable 300 or 400 because he looked almost the same then as now and Inu looks like 16 or 17 but is 150.
13. Sesshoumaru could weasily kill inu especially on his human days so why doesnt he is it becase he loves/care for him? On the full moon nights I doubt Kagome, Sango, and Miroku could hurt Sess much he is too fast and smart to just stand and let kazaana get him, can dodge/ catch arrows, and could probable cut Sango's boomerang in half and is immun to her poison bombs. Aslo he has tenseiga to protect him.
14. The final question (for now) is CHEESE CAKE a pie or a cake. (REASONS)
I think its a pie becasue it has crust and "filling" BUT Cake has filling and it is called CHEESE CAKE.

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1. He doesn't have one as far as I know. He's a full yokai. They don't have moms.
2. Fluffy= Sess
3. Another discpreancy of the series. Don't know why.
4. She didn't have her soul in her body, naraku had it. I think the soul has to be in the body in order to save it.
5. ? I don't understand. Not a question.
6. I'd go with Tessaiga, seeing that tenseiga can't attack real things
7. Nah, he's too powerful to get sucked in.
8. Discrepancy of the series, once again
9. not quite a Daiyokai. He's proabably Naraku's equal, but not more powerful. If he was, naraku would be dead by now.
10. It should protect him, yes.
11. I was a little suprised sess could do that. It's dissapointing, but for some reason he can...
12. Ages are one thing i never figured out
13. He didn't know of inus whereabouts probably
14. I'd say pie
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Old 03-01-2005, 11:07 AM   #3   [permalink]
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1.But in the Thunder Brother's flashback we see they had a father and a mother.Sesshomaru takes more after his father anyway.

3.My guess is owning all three swords could create strange effects and act on each other's powers.

5.So far the only counter to Kazaana is Naraku's poison bees.Even Sesshomaru was about to get sucked in during their first battle.Miroku wins.

6.I'd go with Tensaiga.It makes it's owner nearly immortal.

7.Why wouldn't Naraku get sucked in?He has so many poison bees for exactly that.

9.That's a question Rumiko must've asked herself often.How to give the main character a powerful big brother without having him steal the show?Answer:Give him an indifferent outlook on Inu Yasha's quest and always making him leave with a "I could kill all of you but I don't feel like it today" attitude.

10.Are they fighting or playing tennis there?Yes Tensaiga could protect him.

11.I think it's because Sesshomaru knows better how to use these kinds of weapon.Remember when Sesshomaru first wields Tetsusaiga,he unleashes that huge waves that kills a thousand demons.So Sesshomaru has better fighting skills and knowledge of how to handle this power.

13.Look at my answer for 9
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Originally Posted by Charlie 2leen
4. If tenseiga could revive Goshinki(sp) to make toukijin, than why coulnt it save Kagura? Was it the shokai or did it not want to because it did not pulse?
Hi! I'm new here.

I think the answer to this is quite simple. Sesshomaru never actually had Tenseiga drawn. He thought about using Tenseiga and put his hand on it, but told himself "Tenseiga cannot save her" and stopped. Never before in the series had he been able to tell what he could do with Tenseiga until he had it drawn. I'd say that Sesshomaru didn't really want to save her.

This is how it went in the manga: Sesshomaru put his hand on Tenseiga, looked at Kagura, thought to himself "Tenseiga cannot save her", asked Kagura "are you going?", she said "yes" and died. He never unsheathed the sword.
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On 6.Tesseiga vs Tetsuiaga(sp) I ment the Japanese spelling vs the english spelling.

In the inuyahsa books it usually says that sess is inus older brother with the same father but different mother. Also has anyone else notice Sess wears a womans kimono? Possible his moms as a sign of respect?

5. Kikyou vs Kagome vs Miroku in spiritual battle I ment whose power is stronger.

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6.The correct spelling as far as I know is Tetsusaiga.

5.Well Miruko doesn't seem to have that much spiritual power.And since Kagome is Kikyo's reincarnation with some of Kikyo's powers,Kikyo wins by far by far.
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Thanks for the welcome, Darklightz!

6. It's Tetsusaiga in the American dubbed anime. Some fansites have Tessaiga.

I don't think Sess wears a woman's kimono. Just a pretty one.
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now let the Sesshoumaru expert try to answer the questions..*cough* ME *cough*

1. demons have mothers first off and if not.. his kind does. no info yet of sesshoumaru's mother (though she would be a dog demon of course), she must have died or left or sumthing early on when sesshoumaru was younger than he was in movie 3.

2. the "fluffy" is a animal pelt made of dog fur presumibly (inuyasha art book) and when it's pierced, blood flows from it but it doesnt affect sesshoumaru physically. from this his nickname was born - Fluffy-sama ^^

3. sesshoumaru can be unkillable when a shot has the ability to wipe him out completely like in ep 35, but im not sure if hes only unkillable if hes shot down by Tessaiga. now inutaisho was injured and that injury was slowly killing him and tenseiga seems like it doesnt heal wounds by itself. now for ep 35 it could have been an only one time deal because tenseiga chose to save him. it might not in the future but judging by their relationship, i believe tenseiga would save his life if needed once more. tenseiga was made by the father's fang so perhaps inutaisho wanted or neded to die that time and decided not to envoke tenseiga to save himself if he could.

4. when kagura's body was found it was slowly disappearing to what seemed liem ash. in order to use tenseiga u need a body. plus she wasnt dead and also when she died she had no body. Goshinki's teeth were only needed so just the head was revived and it seems like tenseiga can revive parts too.. like what happened to jakken lol.

5. hmm.. kikyo would win if ur saying all 3 of them battle lol. shes gotten stronger over the course of the series. sam can be said for miroku and kagome but kikyo was more powerful from the start.

6. Tessaiga is the japanese version. the "ss" part of the kanji is not an "tsu". the kanji is the same as sesshoumaru and sesshoumaru's name isnt "Setsushoumaru" Tetsusaiga is the american version. Viz translates inuyasha terms wierdly..i mean.. have u LOOKED at the manga? *chokes self*

7. kazanna can suck up anything within a certain size. it could suck up naraku but hes too strong for that.. now if he was in PEICES its do-able. of course theres always insects. u can suck them up but u will have consequences.

8. Sesshoumaru can hold tessiaga hes done it multiple times (yes with his own hand). he cant wield it fully but he can use it. when i saw shppo holding tessaiga it blew my theories out of the water -_-+. but i think he can hold it because shippo isnt strong enough to even use it so i guess it allowed him to? inutaihso could use it because he was it's master just like inuyasha is and he created the thing so of course he could use it. Sesshoumaru is strong enough to use it with barrier on and well but he has difficulty using it beyond one attack.

9. hmm... Sesshoumaru definatly has more experience and he he seems to have more power offensivily but naraku focuses his strength on the barrier hes got. Sesshoumaru is more powerful than Naraku himself but Toukijin is not more powerful than the barrier. in the demon graveyard after inuyasha shot kongousouha, sesshoumaru shot him with his toukijin and it didnt seem to finish him off because naraku was disapearing but was still alive. the explanation for that is he had a shikon shard. if the shard wasnt there then toukijin could have killed naraku for good

10. bakurryuuha was defeated by Toukijin's Souryuuha but it didnt look like it easily defeated it but it didnt look hard to defeat. now kongousouha is more powerful than bakuryuuha so sesshoumaru would 1. have to have another toukijin technique 2. be defeated or 3. be able to dodge it since he is fast.

11. i dont even tho what the hell that sentence meant O_o. but all i'll say is Toukijin has Goshinki's power, Tenseiga is Inutaisho's "power" and kongousouha is from Housenki's power.

12. Sesshoumaru is 500+ yrs old. movie 3 made my theory correct! *does dance*. lemme break it down - in the beginning of movie 3 he was younger but not by much and that inciddent happen over 200 yrs ago. now add those 200 years and add another 200 yrs more for before the inciddent, sesshoumaru would be even more younger but not by much as u can see by his growth rate. keep adding more years and so finally it comes out to more than 500+ years. TADDAA!

13. if inuyasha were to die for good thats the end of the series lol and noone wants that to happen. Sesshoumaru was in the series in the beginning to make inuyasha stronger. with every battle they had inuyasha leanrs sumthing new, gets stronger or sumthing drastic happens to him to expand his character growth. eps 5-7 stressed tessaiga and inu's new beginning. 18-19 shows inuyasha tessaiga's true powers and what inu must learn. 34-35 inuyasha masters the wind scar because of his battle with his brother. ep 45 - shows the other side of inuyasha and that is definatly a change in inu's life. ep 52 - because of his condition from the fight inuyasha decides to do sumthing about his problem. many people always wonder y he wont kill inuyasha already and if sesshoumaru has sibling feelings for him, well what i think is that he wants to defeat inuyasha his own way ad have inuyasha do is best and master the sword the right way because Sesshoumaru wants to defeat the sword more than inuyasha in many cases. Sesshoumaru seems rather interested on how inuyasha is the way he is and takes pleasure on how weak he is.

a kimono note - Sesshoumaru was created to be bishounen. im not sure if its a female kimono but i never seen male kimono's like that. he wears feminine patterns like that to stress the "pretty" side of him. not many men can pull off flowers ( his other kimono in movie 3 was gorgeous!) let alone look hot in it and is man enough to wear it.
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Its tessaiga. It it was tetsusaiga, then sess's name would be something weird.

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Originally Posted by Charlie 2leen
2.Fluffy. What is it? A pelt,boa, family herloom(sp), armpit hair, a seperate youkai mooching off of sesshoumaru, a huge fluffy pillow? It is not a tail though. I just think its a boa or family herloom becase his dad had one than was split in two.
I think the fluffy is his real dog fur that stays around when he's in human form.


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4. when kagura's body was found it was slowly disappearing to what seemed liem ash. in order to use tenseiga u need a body. plus she wasnt dead and also when she died she had no body. Goshinki's teeth were only needed so just the head was revived and it seems like tenseiga can revive parts too.. like what happened to jakken lol.
Her true form was wind, so when she died she turned into wind. Her body was a gust of wind. Sesshomaru never unsheathed Tenseiga, so there was no way to know if it could bring her back to life or not. He didn't really try to save her and didn't bother to find out.

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well he couldnt save her anyway because u cant resurect wind lmao. i mean where would she be revived to. u need a body to be able to come back. its just how tenseiga works
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well he couldnt save her anyway because u cant resurect wind lmao. i mean where would she be revived to. u need a body to be able to come back. its just how tenseiga works
Her body was a gust of wind, and that would be where she would be revived to, then she could take human form again. She was created from wind in the first place. Tenseiga works by having Sesshomaru slashing through the pall bearers. My theory is that if Sesshomaru had unsheathed Tenseiga, he might have seen those pall bearers floating around that gust of wind that was Kagura. If he really wanted to save her, he could have at least drawn Tenseiga, he knew enough to do that in all the other occasions with Rin, Jaken, Goshinki's head, and the otter youkai.

My point is Sesshomaru didn't really try, and Tenseiga was not given a chance to work.
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if u notice in many cases tenseiga pulses w/o even sesshoumaru wanting it to. like in ep 143. it pulsed and he was all "you want me to do this?" it pulses at different times. and kagura was created by naraku's flsh. she wasnt created by naraku just taking a bunch of air and making her. her heart is flesh. just because shes got wind powers doesnt mean she literally is the wind. and besides if one claims to be the wind shouldnt she be able to turn into wind by will?

and sesshoumaru DID try. didnt u see him grab tenseiga? he said "tenseiga is not able to save her..." 1. shes not dead is why and 2. her BODY is disappearing anyway.
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if u notice in many cases tenseiga pulses w/o even sesshoumaru wanting it to. like in ep 143. it pulsed and he was all "you want me to do this?" it pulses at different times. and kagura was created by naraku's flsh. she wasnt created by naraku just taking a bunch of air and making her. her heart is flesh. just because shes got wind powers doesnt mean she literally is the wind. and besides if one claims to be the wind shouldnt she be able to turn into wind by will?

and sesshoumaru DID try. didnt u see him grab tenseiga? he said "tenseiga is not able to save her..." 1. shes not dead is why and 2. her BODY is disappearing anyway.
He put his hand on Tenseiga, that means he thought about it. The word here is TRY. Your opinion is that he DID try, mine is that he did NOT. My opinion is that if he REALLY did try, he would have at least pulled Tenseiga out of its sheath.

I'm not sure why you brought up Tenseiga pulsing, because it would only support my argument. Tenseiga doesn't have to pulse inside its sheath to be able to restore life. Check out when Sesshomaru revived Rin in ep.35, Jaken and Gonshinki's head in 44&45. It only pulsed after he had it drawn. So just because it didn't pulse in its sheath for Kagura doesn't mean it would not be able to revive her.

I already stated my opinion a couple times about what happened with Kagura's body, so I don't want to repeat it again. Just because you didn't see her turning into wind by will, doesn't mean that she couldn't. The fact that she turned into wind when she died means that was her true form.

In an older thread, you seemed to be irritated that Sesshomaru tried (in your opinion) to save Kagura. I'm surprised that you seem upset now when I argue that he didn't really try. I got this kind of reaction in another forum only from Kagura fans who wanted her paired with Sesshomaru.
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Kagura is not made from wind. She is made from naraku. She came from a vat, just like all of his other minions he made. She is flesh like the rest of them, she jsut has wind powers.
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