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Originally Posted by Project Akira
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I'll be honest, I'm waiting for George to ban him for his rather rude remarks and out of line statements regardless of what truth they may contain. There's making a point and belaboring one.
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There are not many things ruder on a messageboard than publically calling for a fellow long-term member to be banned. But I guess you're not really interested in playing by your own standards
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When former moderator Glabrezu called me a f-uckwit, what did I do? Did I go crying to Eva2k for him to be banned? No, I took it on the chin and took it in my stride. When Schizm posted a picture of someone with a picture of Osama Bin Laden pasted over his face f-ucking someone with a face of George Bush on him, and this picture was not removed for over a week, did I go crying for him to be banned? No. We're adults and we can deal with issues without reverting to some superficial political correctness. You have to distinguish between delinquents who genuinely enjoy being rude in itself and those who appear to be rude but who are actually being blunt, honest and passionate.
And what you describe as "belabouring" a point is me updating my views with new evidence, new suggestions and new methods of presentation. You want me to stop "belabouring" points? Then try and address the points that I make by helping to realise concrete actions. Otherwise, what are you complaining about? If I stop "belabouring", who else is going to be pushing for change (apart from Black_Knight)? Look through the list of names at the bottom of this page, those people who are still coming to this place. Which one of those people are going to push for change in my absence eh? The shhhh! silent moderators?
You? Yeah, exactly.
I speak for all those previous members who have left because of inactivity, so whenever I type feedback to Eva2k, I know I have the voices of the fallen on my side all the time, to add to my facts and first-hand experience. That's what lends true weight to my argument and that's why your crude depiction of my position is readily smashed into a billion insignificant fragments, like so many hopeless dreams.
Now that's out of the way, back to the topic at hand:
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Originally Posted by Eva2k
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Maybe cause their active members have more free time and less real life obligations than AB and are more concerned with posting about anime, than forum administration procedures ? It's not meant to be an insult directed at you as I do appreciate your suggestions and insights but it is also another factor.
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That is a reasonable guess; however, one has to bear in mind that over the course of the previous few years, members
have tried to make many posts in the anime subforums in the hope of generating activity, and I'm not just talking about myself. What happened? These member ended up talking to each other in the same old threads again and again, with no new people joining in. Then people got fed up and stopped posting. Nowadays, if you make a new thread or post, you'd be lucky to get a reply. For a live example, look at the threads by MeMyself, e.g.
http://www.animeboards.com/showthread.php?t=63404. How many more times does this guy have to talk to himself here?
This is when you realise that things need to happen at a board management level to complement these uncoordinated actions by local members. This is something which your moderators would have picked up if they were in touch with events on the ground.
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Originally Posted by Eva2k
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But if you averaged the age of those 5,500+ AB members vs average age of that forum's members you'd see a trend. AB - probably be nearly all folks who after several years on the forums are now of working age, and probably with families of their own. Stress rich vs time poor.
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We have some
190 times more members here, not just 5 times or 10 times more. For every 1 hr a member spends on Anime Gaia, a member here only needs to spend something like 20 s for there to be roughly an equal likelihood of getting the same number of posts. Now:
1. Not all 5,500+ of us are of working age, especially the newer members. With high probability, we have more than 29 members who are not of working age.
2. Even if you are of working age, that does not mean you stop going to messageboards or don't have time to post. That is a complete myth, because if you go to e.g. politics, boxing, MMA and football forums, you see posts by adults there everyday.
The truth is that when you are working, like myself, you prioritize your time more. You still have free time, unless you're one of those soul-less investment banker-types, but you have less of it than when you were studying, so you only do the things that are top of your list. The point is that if you have a messageboard that sparks stimulating debate on a regular basis, then visiting such a messageboard would
move up this list and hence there is a greater likelihood of people of working age posting on that messageboard. That is what is missing here and that is why this place is not drawing older folks in. It's
not just because all people at work or who are married never have any time, and a major factor is the attractiveness of this place.
3. You have some
2400 members, ranging from people who joined in 2000 to 2009, with 0 posts. This shows that a massive number of people sign up but don't post, and shows that there is little incentive for both the old people (mentioned in point 2.) and new people to post. Among other things, you need to differentiate this place to make it stand out somehow from places like Anime Gaia - what has AB got that AG doesn't? More activity? No. So why should people come here instead of over there? Don't just take it from me, take it from some of the older members here, including a former moderator (remembering that you trust your moderators):
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http://www.animeboards.com/showthrea...t=61086&page=6)
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Originally Posted by Aku Shi
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Why should they choose this board over all the other anime forums that are popping up everywhere? This place needs to come up with something that will make it stand out somehow.
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Originally Posted by Drizzten
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There's the key. Why go outside massive social networks to talk about anime when there are already groups and forums dedicated to the topic? It's another public profile to maintain, one more password to remember. Some anime-only communities have a connection to the industry, be it distributive, retail, production, or news. I've never spent time in other large anime forums so I don't know what their cultures are like, but that's a factor as well. Do AB's competitors have a SomethingAwful-like atmosphere among their active membership?
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Also, if you're worried about costs, then you can literally delete hundreds of inactive accounts. If you haven't posted for over 2 yrs and have never posted, then let's face it, you're never going to post. Sentimentality doesn't even enter the equation here. This is something I flagged years ago.
This is why I cannot accept your assessment of AB Vs AG.
