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Old 13-02-2009, 11:05 PM   #31   [permalink]
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Originally Posted by John Faulkner View Post
Come to think of it, I'm not even sure Eva2k wants to do anything about his moderators at the moment, given the mystery that is shrouding his future strategy. I suggested new moderators because the current lot have no fire in their bellies at all - no passion and no pride. For one thing, only one ever seems to come here anymore.
It is highly possible, that they are hidden when they log in. I tend to do that sometimes so that only other mods can see me. *shrugs* I dunno.

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Yes, it's absolutely true that older people are not immune to being stuck in the quagmire of pre-pubescent thinking. On the whole, I'd say older people on messageboards are less prone to juvenile crap, but are still prone to crap manifested through other forms. Have you ever been to this website - http://redwing.hutman.net/~mreed/ ?
Oh my God. I haven't seen anything like that before. So it's basically an online academy for flamers and trolls. Great! Very mature. Though admittedly, I haven't been immune to laughing at some of the trollings I've dealt with in the past. I found myself laughing my ass off a few times while clicking the ban button. You can't be 100% serious all of the time, otherwise being a moderator would get so damn annoying.
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It is highly possible, that they are hidden when they log in. I tend to do that sometimes so that only other mods can see me. *shrugs* I dunno.
You can check the "last activity" of those mods who do not hide themselves on their profiles. This proves that most are not hidden and have not logged on this year.

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Oh my God. I haven't seen anything like that before. So it's basically an online academy for flamers and trolls. Great! Very mature.
No, it's a site that mocks the type of people you get on messageboards in an entertaining way!
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Originally Posted by John Faulkner View Post
You can check the "last activity" of those mods who do not hide themselves on their profiles. This proves that most are not hidden and have not logged on this year.
Oh, I didn't think of that. Well I guess they moved on. 0o


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No, it's a site that mocks the type of people you get on messageboards in an entertaining way!
I've been looking over some of the threads. Some of it is mildly entertaining, but I've deleted better. lol
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Old 17-02-2009, 01:20 AM   #34   [permalink]
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Firstly, has anyone checked out what's happening down at our great rivals Anime Gaia? They've completely re-designed their messageboard! Where once there was a bright and cheerful design reflecting the innocence of youth, there is now left a mysterious ambience that embraces the dark confusion associated with the coming-of-age period. WOW. I can really see the passion, drive and vision in that place.

Citizens of AnimeBoards: our deadly rivals Anime Gaia have evolved. We must fight back in this evolutionary arms race.

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Oh, I didn't think of that. Well I guess they moved on. 0o
Or just being lazy buggers, as ever.
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Are you talking about that tiny forum? xD

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Are you talking about that tiny forum? xD
Yes, the one mentioned in the first post of this thread. Big things are happening over there - they tested out a brand new layout with a cool and funky black and red colour scheme yesterday, and they are in the process of making "major changes" according to the owner. They also held a competition to see who can get past a certain number of posts first - a fantastic idea for a new forum. Now that is what I call being proactive. You can feel the chi exploding right across to AnimeBoards and I am still shaking from the shockwaves. Our very existence is threatened by this new kid on the block, whose cup is over-running with pure energy. I propose AnimeBoards comes up with a new counter-strategy quick and get someone over there to make a declaration of war (the winner being the place who can generate the most activity).

Psychologically, people respond to leaders that are perceived as actually trying to do something that benefits them. So even though on a personal level, I think Anime Gaia's competition is puerile shite, I can see it's a great way to boost activity.
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Well, I won't be trying that one on my forum when it is up and running again. That just generates a lot of ---- spam and postwhores. I will be depending on my graphic designer friends to help get it going again with a competition for a forum banner, seeing as it is an anime and graphics forum. The type of members that I have, would be a little more mature than to do a race for post count. I couldn't see it happening here either, I think AB's members are past post count races
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Old 19-02-2009, 12:47 AM   #38   [permalink]
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We need to do SOMETHING! I like here better than there! (don't wana go there, I don't know them there) I don't want to see this place fall any farther! WE NEED CHANGE!
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Well, I won't be trying that one on my forum when it is up and running again. That just generates a lot of ---- spam and postwhores. I will be depending on my graphic designer friends to help get it going again with a competition for a forum banner, seeing as it is an anime and graphics forum. The type of members that I have, would be a little more mature than to do a race for post count. I couldn't see it happening here either,
So you'll be admin of this new forum of yours? How much is this going to cost you roughly? When you say an anime and graphics forum, do you mean graphics as in any type of drawing, or is the scope restricted to anime graphics?

Maturity is, I think, a worthy aim in most endeavours, but a possible issue for messageboards is that it could be a double-edged sword. If people perceive the rules to be too strict, or an environment too staid, that could stifle discussion and creativity. It's tough to strike a balance.

I agree the competition is more suitable for the frivolous crowd, but I also notice that Anime Gaia has added a new Hentai subforum to boost activity, with one of the reasons cited being that hentai is "art". Now this is weird because the competition is geared towards the younger crowd yet the anime porn subforum is geared towards older people. This strategy does not seem to me very coherent. Also, I have invited the owner of Anime Gaia to this thread - see http://www.animeboards.com/showthrea...#post537851501

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I think AB's members are past post count races
Most of AB's members are past posting on AB ...

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We need to do SOMETHING! I like here better than there! (don't wana go there, I don't know them there) I don't want to see this place fall any farther! WE NEED CHANGE!
I think the appropriate way to express your immense passion is:

So what do YOU suggest we do?
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I think the appropriate way to express your immense passion is:

So what do YOU suggest we do?
Lets burn this mother fucker down!!!!

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Old 20-02-2009, 06:26 PM   #41   [permalink]
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To John

You say in my advertisement i need to redeem myself to this community?, i say i could care less what people think about me

My website is simply a small community were anyone's welcome to come and just enjoy themselve's, and thats the intended purpose off it, if we have to clean up post's. hell we will do it, if some people go a lil off topic, omg i could care less, its about having fun and even though alot of my members have gone off topic in post's, its constructive and alot of the time for a good laugh

All i see from you is pages and pages of post's of you dribbling and going on. i can see that you want to resurrect AB. yeah sure, respectable, but dont go trying to make a mockery/example out of my website when the two site's can hardly be compared what so ever

To the comments about age related

I myself am 22, i have a job, and its the same with most of our members, a phew are young but most are generally old enough to move out of home but in the end what's that got to do with anything, i know plenty of youngen's who are more mature than a 30 year old


Back to john


You say to me that all i did was make a talk up about my site, yea i did. There's an advertise/website show-off section, so i went and advertised, yea i didnt get involved with the community before hand. because this forum doesnt hit my interest, sorry. but i preffer smaller community's, generally i dont care what anyone think's of me, im just doing my part and enjoying life

As for respect, yeah. so what if some of you dont respect me, you dont even know me and i dont know you. so i doubt in the long run it's going to mentally effect anyone

AB's problems have nothing to do with AG. and this whole thread really is pointless, if you want to resurrect your forum, do something unique, make some competition's, either way, dont go comparing

As for the hentai section

Yeah we added that for 3 reasons, 1. to appeal to an older crowd, 2. Because it is Artistic, hentai by some is seen as dirty etc, but to alot of other's its seen as extremely artistic and beautifull, 3. to see how it work's out with the community

We are trying thing's, learning and making mistakes and fixing mistakes. we are having fun, and enjoying a nice friendly community over at AG, and its really as simple as that.

As for strategy, really we have no strategy, were not trying for any strategic approach at all. were just having fun and enjoying making a forum/community and soon a website added on


P.S - The link to the forum is now http://animegaia.net - weve taken down the main website for now untill the new layout is finished

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Originally Posted by John Faulkner View Post
So you'll be admin of this new forum of yours? How much is this going to cost you roughly? When you say an anime and graphics forum, do you mean graphics as in any type of drawing, or is the scope restricted to anime graphics?
Yes, I'll be admin. However, I do not have the necessary coding skills, this is why I will have two secondary admins. Already agreed ion who those will be. Well, to begin with it will cost me about €60 for the host and domain. Forum license about €150, but I will be using a free license to start with, I was using mybb. I can transfer the databases over. Now I don't actually care about having a large forum. This site would cost a LOT more at is full potential.

As for the graphics. I am a professional graphic designer so it will involve some of my graphic design friends artists and GFXers(signature makers, of course mostly anime there). Most sites are pure elitists when it comes to graphics. We plan to cut that out by actually helping people improve from beginners to more advanced. I myself suck at signature making because I prefer to do graphics that involve my own work, not sticking pre-made stuff together. But I am an artist too, so constructive criticism is something I will involve myself in.

Oh and a huge NO-NO for any site IMO, is allowing people to advertise their forums. We can see the outcome of that above. That is something that I will not allow without an "official" affiliation. It's stealing members, although that can't happen here lol.

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Maturity is, I think, a worthy aim in most endeavours, but a possible issue for messageboards is that it could be a double-edged sword. If people perceive the rules to be too strict, or an environment too staid, that could stifle discussion and creativity. It's tough to strike a balance.
Ah, there is always a middle ground when it comes to rules. They must be strict enough to make a point but not so strict as nazi forum rule.

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I agree the competition is more suitable for the frivolous crowd, but I also notice that Anime Gaia has added a new Hentai subforum to boost activity, with one of the reasons cited being that hentai is "art". Now this is weird because the competition is geared towards the younger crowd yet the anime porn subforum is geared towards older people. This strategy does not seem to me very coherent. Also, I have invited the owner of Anime Gaia to this thread - see http://www.animeboards.com/showthrea...#post537851501
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Now Hentai is something that was suggested for my site. I said NO. I don't see a need for it plus it's not something that interests me. Besides, I want the forum to appeal to under 18's as well.

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Originally Posted by John Faulkner View Post
I think the appropriate way to express your immense passion is:

So what do YOU suggest we do?
Hmm......new mods should help. And maybe someone could look at what is currently popular and fun here and experiment with it?

Just as a side note, this was the first site I ever joined and the only one I still go to. If I could figure out why maybe I could come up with something to help revive things here........
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To JohnYou say in my advertisement i need to redeem myself to this community?, i say i could care less what people think about me
Touchy, aren't we?

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All i see from you is pages and pages of post's of you dribbling and going on.
Very constructive comment to all the points I've made in this thread.

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i can see that you want to resurrect AB. yeah sure, respectable, but dont go trying to make a mockery/example out of my website when the two site's can hardly be compared what so ever
This proves you haven't bothered reading this thread properly. What the hell have you been smoking? I'm not making an example of your website or mocking it; I was saying how your forum is more active on average than AnimeBoards and that has led to discussion on why activity on your website is greater. I've even praised the changes Anime Gaia have made and the effervescence shown by the management team, e.g.

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They also held a competition to see who can get past a certain number of posts first - a fantastic idea for a new forum. Now that is what I call being proactive. You can feel the chi exploding right across to AnimeBoards and I am still shaking from the shockwaves. Our very existence is threatened by this new kid on the block, whose cup is over-running with pure energy.
By doing so, I have actually helped to promote your website here and given you free, favourable publicity. So what the f-uck are you complaining about?

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To the comments about age related

I myself am 22, i have a job, and its the same with most of our members, a phew are young but most are generally old enough to move out of home but in the end what's that got to do with anything, i know plenty of youngen's who are more mature than a 30 year old
Yes, that goes without saying, adults of all ages can be f-ucking retards as well. Welcome to the real world. However, young people tend to be less mature.

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You say to me that all i did was make a talk up about my site, yea i did. There's an advertise/website show-off section, so i went and advertised, yea i didnt get involved with the community before hand. because this forum doesnt hit my interest, sorry. but i preffer smaller community's, generally i dont care what anyone think's of me, im just doing my part and enjoying life
You prefer smaller communities, so you're not interested in AnimeBoards, which has one of the smallest active communities on the Internet, smaller than at Anime Gaia? How about you open your f-ucking eyes to what I've typed before you unload a barrel-load of hyperactive s-hit onto me?

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AB's problems have nothing to do with AG. and this whole thread really is pointless, if you want to resurrect your forum, do something unique, make some competition's, either way, dont go comparing
a) I compared AB to AG because AG is showing the fighting spirit AB is lacking, a fighting spirit which is needed to counter the low levels of activity, one of AB's problem. So AB's problems are linked to AG in some way and there is a point to this thread.

b) I have suggested many ways to improve AB and have invited suggestions from board management.

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As for the hentai section

Yeah we added that for 3 reasons, 1. to appeal to an older crowd, 2. Because it is Artistic, hentai by some is seen as dirty etc, but to alot of other's its seen as extremely artistic and beautifull, 3. to see how it work's out with the community
Hentai is artistic? So what's so "artistic" about 2-D characters (in form and personality) f-ucking around for the viewers to wank along to?

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As for strategy, really we have no strategy, were not trying for any strategic approach at all. were just having fun and enjoying making a forum/community and soon a website added on
"Fun" is an incredibly vapid, catch-all term used by people who are too lazy to think about why they are doing something. You can break down the concept of fun and realise the underlying factors that make up "having fun", whether it is mental or physical stimulation brought about by certain types of activity. Just saying "having fun" as a raison d'etre will get you nowhere, unless you're trying to create a TV or newspaper ad playing on the deformed prejudices and backwards thinking of the masses.

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P.S - The link to the forum is now http://animegaia.net - weve taken down the main website for now untill the new layout is finished
Never one to miss out on plugging your website eh?

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Yes, I'll be admin. However, I do not have the necessary coding skills, this is why I will have two secondary admins. Already agreed ion who those will be. Well, to begin with it will cost me about €60 for the host and domain. Forum license about €150, but I will be using a free license to start with, I was using mybb. I can transfer the databases over. Now I don't actually care about having a large forum. This site would cost a LOT more at is full potential.
Are the €60 and €150 one-off payments? What about running costs? Eva2k is banging on about spending over AUD$50k in hosting related costs, which is about AUD$6000 per yr or €3000 per year. Is that how much it could cost you?

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As for the graphics. I am a professional graphic designer so it will involve some of my graphic design friends artists and GFXers(signature makers, of course mostly anime there). Most sites are pure elitists when it comes to graphics. We plan to cut that out by actually helping people improve from beginners to more advanced. I myself suck at signature making because I prefer to do graphics that involve my own work, not sticking pre-made stuff together. But I am an artist too, so constructive criticism is something I will involve myself in.
I didn't know there were people out there dedicating themselves to signature making; I remember the forums I used to go to just having text signatures - a few lines of text and there's your sig, take it or leave it.

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Oh and a huge NO-NO for any site IMO, is allowing people to advertise their forums. We can see the outcome of that above. That is something that I will not allow without an "official" affiliation. It's stealing members, although that can't happen here lol.
Do you think Eva2k really cares that people are using this place purely for advertising?

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Now Hentai is something that was suggested for my site. I said NO. I don't see a need for it plus it's not something that interests me. Besides, I want the forum to appeal to under 18's as well.
I'll bet a lot of under 18's watch Hentai, although probably not the sort of crowd you'd want to attract. The quality of Hentai has always been suspect to me. The sci-fi channel used to have late-night anime sessions, and I used to check out whatever they were showing, often random anime which I have never heard of before. Now, some of these turned out to be hentai. I didn't find scenes of naked bitches raped by tentacles from some alien mofo to be enjoyable - it wasn't shocking in the least either, but it was incredibly stupid/laughable and made me switch off the TV. And then you get all these crazy sub-categories like furry and lolicon catering for borderline lunatics. As I've said before, lolicon and shotacon are simply euphenisms for paedophilic anime.

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Hmm......new mods should help. And maybe someone could look at what is currently popular and fun here and experiment with it?
New mods would help, but try telling that to Eva2k.

Nothing is currently popular and "fun" here, so we need inspiration from other places. For example, Anime-Suki forums are light years ahead of this place in several respects.

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